Colin Kaepernick Is Righter Than You Know

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  1. On the census and the American Community Survey you are allowed to identity your race as black and your identify yourself as a latino.

    And the census doesn't actually does say black=African American. It says black or African American.

    It acknowledges that there are other ethnic groups that make up the black race other than African Americans. This is also done for better identification purposes. Same way the new races are for better identification purposes. Tons of researchers rely on census data, so you need accurate identification.

    Dude uses the census as the gospel in one case then ignores it in the other.
     
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  4. Thanks for clarifying.
    To me this all sounds like an attempt to separate culturally, when the census doesn’t ask “culture” anyone identifies with.
     
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  6. Not sure what In that video makes Haitian people any less Latino than they are black. Are you saying you don’t identify with black because you have no African ancestry whatsoever post Pangea breaking apart? Or Because the census hasn’t worded it in away that allows you to identify as such?
     
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  7. ninjahood

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    Haitians are Caribbean, West Indian, but they're not part of da hispanic diaspora.

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  8. I didn’t say Haitians are Hispanic, I said theyre Latino.

    “black & African American are synonymous in da United States..im a Latino, different”

    You said this as if one could not be be both black and Latino, and one couldn’t be black and not African American as if Haiti doesn’t exist.

    Being Latino is based on where someone is from, being Hispanic is based on their language of origin. None of which is an automatic cancellation of African Ancestry and/or being black.

    At the end of the day call it what it is, you don’t to identify as Black simply cause you don’t want to for what ever contrived cultural reason. But stop acting like the reason you can’t be considered black is because from a Spanish speaking country, or because you’re Latino. You know damnwell that whether or not you’re black isn’t dependent on the language you speak or whether you’re Latino, because you’re not here saying that Haitians aren’t black dispute being the same island.
     
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    Na son when you answer all of the questions I asked instead of cherry picking then we can talk. None of what you're saying is worth putting forth more energy. Anything more is just talking in circles til you answer those questions.
     
  10. He’s a Latino that looks Nigerian like Ninja. Alex Rodriguez is a Latino, but he doesn’t look Nigerian. Pit Bull doesn’t look Nigerian. I wonder why.
     
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  11. I’m African American and Ninja looks more African than me. He’s way darker than me:lol: and his hair is way nappier/kinkier than my hair. Ninja got that Congo blood in him :lol:. Most Dominicans have more African blood in them than African Americans which is why many of them look like Dikembe Mutumbo’s cousins
     
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    Is this millennial?

    One of the more nuanced trolls... his ninjahood defense is always lulz.

    Plai on, plair.

    :lol: :lol:
     
  13. Da looming census of course
     
  14. Da census can’t make you not look African though. Son gonna have to get him da Sammy Sosa skin bleach package with da s curl.
     
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    I found out I'm actually a Xennial like Ninja, i envy millenials tho

     
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    Arguing over statistical categories that really don't mean anything outside of the US.


    Office of Management and Budget (OMB)
    DIRECTIVE NO. 15
    Race and Ethnic Standards for Federal Statistics
    and Administrative Reporting

    (as adopted on May 12, 1977)
    This Directive provides standard classifications for record keeping, collection, and presentation of data on race and ethnicity in Federal program administrative reporting and statistical activities. These classifications should not be interpreted as being scientific or anthropological in nature, nor should they be viewed as determinants of eligibility for participation in any Federal program. They have been developed in response to needs expressed by both the executive branch and the Congress to provide for the collection and use of compatible, nonduplicated, exchangeable racial and ethnic data by Federal agencies.
    1. Definitions

    The basic racial and ethnic categories for Federal statistics and program administrative reporting are defined as follows:



    1. American Indian or Alaskan Native. A person having origins in any of the original peoples of North America, and who maintains cultural identification through tribal affiliation or community recognition.


    2. Asian or Pacific Islander. A person having origins in any of the original peoples of the Far East, Southeast Asia, the Indian subcontinent, or the Pacific Islands. This area includes, for example, China, India, Japan, Korea, the Philippine Islands, and Samoa.


    3. Black. A person having origins in any of the black racial groups of Africa.


    4. Hispanic. A person of Mexican, Puerto Rican, Cuban, Central or South American or other Spanish culture or origin, regardless of race.


    5. White. A person having origins in any of the original peoples of Europe, North Africa, or the Middle East.
     
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    First opened this thread to this quote and must appreciate it. Without context, this is one of the greatest one liners I’ve seen in my 11 years of NT-ing.

    So we’re going to go with North Africans being white? Egyptian and Lebanese people are white?

    I’ll return to this topic later. Too early in the morning for this.
     
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  19. Hispanic diaspora? Since when are Brazilians hispanic?

    If you're from the Americas/Caribbean and speak a romance language (Spanish, Portuguese, French) you're Latino.
     
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    I wish he took
    you have to be trolling, I never said youre African-American, I said your Afro-Latino.

    Latino isnt necessarily a race you know.
     
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    Latino = Anything to do with culture Latin countries (Italy, Spain, France, Portugal, Romania)

    Hispanic = Anything to do with culture of Spain

    So you can be Hispanic and Latino, but if youre Brazilian you can only be Latino, because Portuguese isnt Spanish.
     
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    Screenshot_20190912-093850.png
    pretty sure that's not what this graph was trying to get across.

    that's literally being redefined as we speak. Hispanic and Arab communities wanting greater representation and more resources allocated for them specifically, as well as being counted for population purposes
     
  23. It was a rhetorical question aimed at this map that Ninja incorrectly stated was of the hispanic diaspora. As you plainly put it, Brazil isn't apart of the Hispanic diaspora so once again Ninja likes to pick and choose who can be Latino or hispanic.
    Brazilians are Latino but Haitians arent? How sway?


     
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    or how about i already knew what duke was talking about due to da relationship between Portugal & Spain & Brazil with da rest of South America.
     
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  25. debso

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    latino isn't a race period. how are you going to sit there and suggest, imply, whatever that it is given facts and history?
    so dna is just out of the window now?

    make it make sense bro.

    so using your logic, the ppl of equatorial guinea aren't black at all they are hispanic (as a race)?
    alberto Fujimori, Sandra Hayek and Vladimir Guerrero are the same race?
     
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