Does the Majority of this Board HONESTLY THINK NBA players NOW>Players in the 90's?

[pusha c]

Really?

That is absurd. Absolutely absurd

 

[seymore cake]

its all relative to what you grew up watching and experienced.

 

[classy freshman]

IMO, the players in the 90's=the players of today.

I would also say the players from 90's and beyond are better than any other era.

 

[pusha c]

i'd say they're better athletically... but thats because of all the advances in technology.

skill wise (actually playing the game)... HELL NO!!! its not even a question!

 

[airmaxpenny1]

Yes...

Players of the 80's>*

00's sucked talent wise, but then 10's has amazing depth at PG, never seen before. Sort of like the C's of the 90's. Rose, Dwill, Paul, Rondo, Wall, Westbrook, Jennings, Evans are all going to be really great or very good players by the end of their career.

 

[pusha c]

^^^

church. though i didn't watch the players in the 80's i've seen the footage and i may agree. though the 90's was NO SLOUCH!

and yes, the 1 position is as deep as its probably ever been in the history of the league (i'm talkin out of my *** right now lol)

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Originally Posted by airmaxpenny1

Yes...

Players of the 80's>*

00's sucked talent wise, but then 10's has amazing depth at PG, never seen before. Sort of like the C's of the 90's. Rose, Dwill, Paul, Rondo, Wall, Westbrook, Jennings, Evans are all going to be really great or very good players by the end of their career.

I don't see why you couldn't say the same about the 90s. I don't see how you can say the 2000s has PG depth that has NEVER been seen before.

Stockton
Price
KJ
Timmy H
Kid
GP
Rod Strickland
Penny
AI (If you want to count him)

How can you name Wall though

 

[airmaxpenny1]

Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican

How can you name Wall though

Cause I've watched him play.  All the needs to be said.

 

[doctorshoes]

Definitely not in terms of centers. The center position has almost disappeared from the NBA right now, all they're there for is to rebound and play defense.

 

[jmause3]

Originally Posted by airmaxpenny1

Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican

How can you name Wall though

Cause I've watched him play.  All the needs to be said.

But you said NBA players.  I know its unlikely, but he may not be as good as everyone wants him to be once he gets into the NBA. Just saying 

 

[RyGuy45]

Lot of factors... But overall talent? 90's wins out. Once that decade started winding down you had the wave of HS or one and done players and as we know now that had it's negatives for the 2000s. Back in the 80's and 90's it seems teams were all older, mature, etc. (obviously don't have the data to back that up). Now you got NBA teams where their whole rotations are 25 years or younger.

You gotta remember...back then dudes stayed 3-4 years in college. They also had mid-range game.

Also for example when Mike won his first title there were 27 teams. Now there are 30.

 

[westcoastsfinest]

Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican

Originally Posted by airmaxpenny1

Yes...

Players of the 80's>*

00's sucked talent wise, but then 10's has amazing depth at PG, never seen before. Sort of like the C's of the 90's. Rose, Dwill, Paul, Rondo, Wall, Westbrook, Jennings, Evans are all going to be really great or very good players by the end of their career.

I don't see why you couldn't say the same about the 90s. I don't see how you can say the 2000s has PG depth that has NEVER been seen before.

Stockton
Price
KJ
Timmy H
Kid
GP
Rod Strickland
Penny
AI (If you want to count him)

How can you name Wall though

  

 owned....90s pg>this era

 

[airmaxpenny1]

Originally Posted by westcoastsfinest

Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican

Originally Posted by airmaxpenny1

Yes...

Players of the 80's>*

00's sucked talent wise, but then 10's has amazing depth at PG, never seen before. Sort of like the C's of the 90's. Rose, Dwill, Paul, Rondo, Wall, Westbrook, Jennings, Evans are all going to be really great or very good players by the end of their career.

I don't see why you couldn't say the same about the 90s. I don't see how you can say the 2000s has PG depth that has NEVER been seen before.

Stockton- HOF
Price- Very good, underapprciated but not HOF
KJ- Great but could have been better
Timmy H- Good but not one of the greats
Kid- Great but didn't have his best years until he joined the Nets in the 2000's
GP- HOF
Rod Strickland- Solid PG but dude wasn't even ever an all-star
Penny- Not a PG
AI (If you want to count him)- Not a PG

How can you name Wall though

  

 owned....90s pg>this era

No, not really.

Obviously it is speculation at this point, but I would bet my my life savings on Rose, Dwill, Paul and Rondo ending up HOF.  Plus, I wouldn't be surprised if Wall and Westbrook end up there two, especially cause of the rings KD going to help Russy get

 

[crazy dav0]

all i know nowadays no one can hit a jumpshot ... fundamentals are lacking ... everything is athleticism ...

i don't know if i can say which decade is better or the best b/c i'd have to rank 1- 340+ players but looking at the upper echelon players i'd go w/ the 90's ... i'm 26 so i can't judge the 80s fully

this decade can be special w/ the likes of already established players like lebron/melo/wade/paul/dwill/etc... and up and coming stars like durant/rose ... etc..

w/e ...

 

[darth dnzy]

--Being too general about it.
--There are players in the 90's better than today's and vice versa.
--90's ball is appreciated though.

 

[lazyj10]

It's impossible to compare the two because the product itself is different.

 

[pusha c]

DARTH DNZY

there are WAAYYYY more 90's players better than players today. you can only argue about the elite of today and even then, some of them aren't seeing bammas from the 90's

and  LazyJ10

thats a cop out. you act like the game has been radically changed in the past two decades. the only thing that really changed, in terms of the game, is the zone

 

[lazyj10]

No, it's not a cop out...it just something that won't ever be proven and is riddled with personal biases.

The game itself isn't the same from a year on year basis because of rule changes and stupid interpretations. From a physicality standpoint alone you can see it. With those changes, players adapt. That's what I mean when I say the product itself is different.

We've all discussed this on NT before, the hand-checking is a big factor. Could certain players NOW be as successful with more allowed physical guard play defense?

How would the centers do in today's game where more teams are featuring faster sets and uptempo game play?

Do I think the overall fundamentals of the players in the 90's was better, yes. I think you can look no further than average age of the players then versus now. It's a younger league so more mistakes are going to occur.

I agree with the gist of what Seymour Cake said, too.

 

[pusha c]

i agree wit the hand checking point but you are really making it seem like its a totally different game which i am not sold on

 

[yungmatt]

Originally Posted by LazyJ10

It's impossible to compare the two because the product itself is different.

 

[onetrust]

Yeah, dude's are buggin in here thinking NBA players of today are better.  They are more athletic but can't hit a jumpshot for %#@%.

 

[RyGuy45]

Another factor is obviously the money. Let's face it, we see far too many athletes get complacent after breaking the bank. The money exploded in the late 90's and everyone got fed and many got fat.

 

[lazyj10]

The powers that be have made it a different game especially when they fiddle with crap like the 3pt line.

Take that with players adapting to it and it looks like a different game. That's what I'm trying to say.

 

[badboyf0life420]

tell me who in the 90's or 80's can beat a lineup of

Kobe
A.I (Sixers) or Mcgrady (Magic)
Kevin Garnett
Tim Duncan
Shaq (Lakers)

 

[airjordan jb23]

I have to go with the 90's. So much talent in that decade... Even though our decade had a lot, 90's definitly overruled that.