Employees Don’t Have a Right to Wear Dreadlocks Ruled 3-0 In the Court Of Appeals.. Thoughts? Do you

rickyrobot said:
How do you guys not understand the concept of "maintain a clean cut, professional appearance"?

You can't expect to be taken seriously going over Q4 projections looking like ******* Lil' Jon.

In any case, it's their hiring / firing decision, not yours. No one is forcing you to work there.
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this....

You'd be surprised at how many people think that it's OK to be in customer service with neck tattoos, face piercings etc. A companies main goal is to make CUSTOMERS feel more comfortable. Employees should all work together to do that.
 
handullz said:
How does it water it down?

As if picking and choosing racists acts to bring to the majority has been going swimmingly for minorities so far.
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Between Crutcher and Tamir Rice getting shot... down to redlining... WTF does it matter is some cat in MN feels uncomfortable bringing up race when it is the DRIVER in more situations than people want to admit.

Also:

Attraction is subjective.

Shape is subjective.

The way someone's hair grows is not.

I totally understand how companies discriminate. I get they can hire who they want, and they can do whatever they want once you're in.

There comes a time when you have to say "nah, b"

B/c just like companies targeting those w/ tats, fat, or unattractive... they also used to target folks for the color of their skin...

and it was justified with the **** you're saying now.
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not even going to even try to explain part 1... it's just one of those things you either get, or don't.... 

as for being "subjective".....  the whole dreds thing, to me, falls into that category as well....  a lot of people, both black and white, don't find it to be appealing 

so why can't this young woman being denied a job be based on the fact that her hair didn't look good to the company --- similar to shape, height, facial features, etc? 

but rather than look at it that way.... first thing some of yall think is its a race thing....and not a general appearance thing 

the only way to know if it was racial or not is if a non-black with dreads was hired .... or the company had a history of denying black people jobs for appearance reasons 
 
Hank Scorpio said:
This is one of the most absurd things I've read all day.

If you can tell people how they can't wear their hair, what else can you tell them?
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Like the panthers owner tellin Cam no tats n to keep a regular haircut

Let's be real here white ppl a long time ago deemed the " professional " hair style for a black man is a regular ...just another way they found to try to keep control n have ppl in line ...shouldn't matter what your hair lookin like if it's not affecting anybody and you gettin your job done but we all know how it is unfortunately
 
handullz said:
there's no in between?

The problem is the "professional appearance" is rooted in a corporate white heterosexual males.

We need to adjust what "professional appearance" is b/c when it was first coined, I'm fairly certain folks didn't envision all these gay / minoritiy / female folks working in a professional enviroment.
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now THIS is the better conversation... 

what is "professional" in 2016.... 
 
011781 said:
handullz said:
there's no in between?


The problem is the "professional appearance" is rooted in a corporate white heterosexual males.


We need to adjust what "professional appearance" is b/c when it was first coined, I'm fairly certain folks didn't envision all these gay / minoritiy / female folks working in a professional enviroment.
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now THIS is the better conversation... 

what is "professional" in 2016.... 
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Picasso Swerve said:
Dreads just dont have the stigma of a "clean cut appearance". I dont necessarily think thats racism.
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Again, another absurd comment being passed around.

I've worked in the corporate environment for quite some time now and I can tell you that I've seen many men with "locks" maintaining a clean cut professional look. Believe it or not, there is an in-between.

Not every one with lock looks like Lil' John
 
011781 said:
not even going to even try to explain part 1... it's just one of those things you either get, or don't.... 

as for being "subjective".....  the whole dreds thing, to me, falls into that category as well....  a lot of people, both black and white, don't find it to be appealing 

so why can't this young woman being denied a job be based on the fact that her hair didn't look good to the company --- similar to shape, height, facial features, etc? 

but rather than look at it that way.... first thing some of yall think is its a race thing....and not a general appearance thing 

the only way to know if it was racial or not is if a non-black with dreads was hired .... or the company had a history of denying black people jobs for appearance reasons 
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My g... you coming off super smug right now and it's super unnecessary.

Part 1: There's not much to get. I see where you're coming from but again, please tell me what this "picking and choosing of racial instances" has helped black folk so far? Sounds like you're out to make folks comfortable, who will be uncomfortable no matter what thing about race you bring up.

Part 2: Slippery slope that you're starting down. Tats, shape, height, and attractiveness aren't synonymous with black culture in 2016, dude, and you know that. Just like when malls ban durags or white tees.

Racism doesn't go away... It only changes form, and is refined.
 
mrbkkt1 said:
this....

You'd be surprised at how many people think that it's OK to be in customer service with neck tattoos, face piercings etc. A companies main goal is to make CUSTOMERS feel more comfortable. Employees should all work together to do that.
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Folks keep bringing up next tats and facial piercings as if this guy

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Are similar in terms of professional appearance

FOH.
 
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handullz said:
My g... you coming off super smug right now and it's super unnecessary.

Part 1: There's not much to get. I see where you're coming from but again, please tell me what this "picking and choosing of racial instances" has helped black folk so far? Sounds like you're out to make folks comfortable, who will be uncomfortable no matter what thing about race you bring up.

Part 2: Slippery slope that you're starting down. Tats, shape, height, and attractiveness aren't synonymous with black culture in 2016, dude, and you know that. Just like when malls ban durags or white tees.

Racism doesn't go away... It only changes form, and is refined.
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not trying to be a prick man.... apologies. sincerely. *dap* 

picking and choosing hasn't helped, I agree, but continuing to do so only makes it worse IMO.....

I hear what you're saying about the culture....  "no backwards hats"..... "no jerseys" ...etc.....  i totally get that.... but in the case of locks, I personally don't like them because I see more unkept dreads than I do clean cut ones.... just never liked the idea of matted hair.... so to hear a company not be fond of them, I can relate.... 
 
mrbkkt1 said:
For all of you people calling this "racist", go look at the new york Yankees. Find me one person who has facial hair. Requiring someone to be neatly groomed isn't racist, it's good business. Dress for the job you want, not the one you have. If it's a religious thing, imagine one of those South American people with the bone in their nose. How comfortable would you feel in the customer service industry if that is the person serving you.
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mrbkkt1 said:
this....

You'd be surprised at how many people think that it's OK to be in customer service with neck tattoos, face piercings etc. A companies main goal is to make CUSTOMERS feel more comfortable. Employees should all work together to do that.
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I work at Nordstrom, a place known for customer service and we have people of all colors, sexual preferences,etc there. Dudes with pink hair, girls with tats and piercings and all is well there. Just sayin...it is how you treat the person, but I am also sure certain customers wouldn't interact with certain co-workers outside of work...
 
BigEgo24 said:
I work at Nordstrom, a place known for customer service and we have people of all colors, sexual preferences,etc there. Dudes with pink hair, girls with tats and piercings and all is well there. Just sayin...it is how you treat the person, but I am also sure certain customers wouldn't interact with certain co-workers outside of work...
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I get what you're saying, and yes, I get that you can make stuff look professional like pics above, but, I can't call it "racial" until I see a little bit more, like the hiring history and other parts of the dress code.
 
Hank Scorpio said:
handullz said:
Folks keep bringing up next tats and facial piercings as if this guy

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Are similar in terms of professional appearance

FOH.
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I'm working with guys in the front office, there is no way the person on top will make it through the week. Dude at the bottom looks a lot more put together, but he'd still need to keep his hair tied :lol:
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He should probably fix his neck tie too. Handulz pulled that pic from a male escort website :rofl:
 
I'm dead at people thinking that there is no such thing as clean cut dreads. Everyone's dreads don't look like the weeknds
 
Hennessy said:
He should probably fix his neck tie too. Handulz pulled that pic from a male escort website :rofl:
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Cut me some slack famb-o

I just used the first dude with a clean line and dreads I saw in the Google search. Haha.
 
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