Florida governor signs welfare drug-screen measure....Good or Bad?

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(CNN) -- Saying it is "unfair for Florida taxpayers to subsidize drug addiction," Gov. Rick Scott on Tuesday signed legislation requiring adults applying for welfare assistance to undergo drug screening.

"It's the right thing for taxpayers," Scott said after signing the measure. "It's the right thing for citizens of this state that need public assistance. We don't want to waste tax dollars. And also, we want to give people an incentive to not use drugs."

Under the law, which takes effect on July 1, the Florida Department of Children and Family Services will be required to conduct the drug tests on adults applying to the federal Temporary Assistance for Needy Families program. The aid recipients would be responsible for the cost of the screening, which they would recoup in their assistance if they qualify. Those who fail the required drug testing may designate another individual to receive the benefits on behalf of their children.

Shortly after the bill was signed, five Democrats from the state's congressional delegation issued a joint statement attacking the legislation, one calling it "downright unconstitutional."

"Governor Scott's new drug testing law is not only an affront to families in need and detrimental to our nation's ongoing economic recovery, it is downright unconstitutional," said Rep. Alcee Hastings. "If Governor Scott wants to drug test recipients of TANF benefits, where does he draw the line? Are families receiving Medicaid, state emergency relief, or educational grants and loans next?"

Rep. Corrine Brown said the tests "represent an extreme and illegal invasion of personal privacy."

"Indeed, investigating people when there is probable cause to suspect they are abusing drugs is one thing," Brown said in the joint statement. "But these tests amount to strip searching our state's most vulnerable residents merely because they rely on the government for financial support during these difficult economic times."

Joining in the statement denouncing the measure were Democratic Reps. Kathy Castor, Ted Deutch and Frederica Wilson.

Controversy over the measure was heightened by Scott's past association with a company he co-founded that operates walk-in urgent care clinics in Florida and counts drug screening among the services it provides.

In April, Scott, who had transferred his ownership interest in Solantic Corp. to a trust in his wife's name, said the company would not contract for state business, according to local media reports. He subsequently sold his majority stake in the company, local media reported.

On May 18, the Florida Ethics Commission ruled that two conflict-of-interest complaints against Scott were legally insufficient to warrant investigation, and adopted an opinion that no "prohibited conflict of interest" existed.

Also on Tuesday, Scott also signed a measure outlawing hallucinogenic designer drugs known as "bath salts."

"The chemical substances found in 'bath salts' constitute a significant threat to health and public safety," the governor's office said in a statement. "Poison control centers in Florida have reported 61 calls of 'bath salts' abuse, making Florida the state with the second-highest volume of calls."

The drugs "are readily available at convenience stores, discount tobacco outlets, gas stations, pawnshops, tattoo parlors, and truck stops, among other locations," the governor's office said.
 

http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/06/01/florida.welfare.drug.testing/index.html




(CNN) -- Saying it is "unfair for Florida taxpayers to subsidize drug addiction," Gov. Rick Scott on Tuesday signed legislation requiring adults applying for welfare assistance to undergo drug screening.

"It's the right thing for taxpayers," Scott said after signing the measure. "It's the right thing for citizens of this state that need public assistance. We don't want to waste tax dollars. And also, we want to give people an incentive to not use drugs."

Under the law, which takes effect on July 1, the Florida Department of Children and Family Services will be required to conduct the drug tests on adults applying to the federal Temporary Assistance for Needy Families program. The aid recipients would be responsible for the cost of the screening, which they would recoup in their assistance if they qualify. Those who fail the required drug testing may designate another individual to receive the benefits on behalf of their children.

Shortly after the bill was signed, five Democrats from the state's congressional delegation issued a joint statement attacking the legislation, one calling it "downright unconstitutional."

"Governor Scott's new drug testing law is not only an affront to families in need and detrimental to our nation's ongoing economic recovery, it is downright unconstitutional," said Rep. Alcee Hastings. "If Governor Scott wants to drug test recipients of TANF benefits, where does he draw the line? Are families receiving Medicaid, state emergency relief, or educational grants and loans next?"

Rep. Corrine Brown said the tests "represent an extreme and illegal invasion of personal privacy."

"Indeed, investigating people when there is probable cause to suspect they are abusing drugs is one thing," Brown said in the joint statement. "But these tests amount to strip searching our state's most vulnerable residents merely because they rely on the government for financial support during these difficult economic times."

Joining in the statement denouncing the measure were Democratic Reps. Kathy Castor, Ted Deutch and Frederica Wilson.

Controversy over the measure was heightened by Scott's past association with a company he co-founded that operates walk-in urgent care clinics in Florida and counts drug screening among the services it provides.

In April, Scott, who had transferred his ownership interest in Solantic Corp. to a trust in his wife's name, said the company would not contract for state business, according to local media reports. He subsequently sold his majority stake in the company, local media reported.

On May 18, the Florida Ethics Commission ruled that two conflict-of-interest complaints against Scott were legally insufficient to warrant investigation, and adopted an opinion that no "prohibited conflict of interest" existed.

Also on Tuesday, Scott also signed a measure outlawing hallucinogenic designer drugs known as "bath salts."

"The chemical substances found in 'bath salts' constitute a significant threat to health and public safety," the governor's office said in a statement. "Poison control centers in Florida have reported 61 calls of 'bath salts' abuse, making Florida the state with the second-highest volume of calls."

The drugs "are readily available at convenience stores, discount tobacco outlets, gas stations, pawnshops, tattoo parlors, and truck stops, among other locations," the governor's office said.
 
On the fence about this.
I mean I've known people who are on welfare who don't do drugs, but then I've known people on welfare who are dope heads.
 
On the fence about this.
I mean I've known people who are on welfare who don't do drugs, but then I've known people on welfare who are dope heads.
 
Originally Posted by ErickM713

On the fence about this.
I mean I've known people who are on welfare who don't do drugs, but then I've known people on welfare who are dope heads.

how does this put you on the fence? if they aren't on drugs, they would have no problem passing the drug test and qualifying for welfare.
 
Originally Posted by ErickM713

On the fence about this.
I mean I've known people who are on welfare who don't do drugs, but then I've known people on welfare who are dope heads.

how does this put you on the fence? if they aren't on drugs, they would have no problem passing the drug test and qualifying for welfare.
 
Originally Posted by kidplay

Originally Posted by ErickM713

On the fence about this.
I mean I've known people who are on welfare who don't do drugs, but then I've known people on welfare who are dope heads.

how does this put you on the fence? if they aren't on drugs, they would have no problem passing the drug test and qualifying for welfare.

This.

I hope this *%%* get's nationalized. I'm all for helping the less fortunate out. However, I'm not busting my *!+ at work to support somebody's drug habit.
 
Originally Posted by kidplay

Originally Posted by ErickM713

On the fence about this.
I mean I've known people who are on welfare who don't do drugs, but then I've known people on welfare who are dope heads.

how does this put you on the fence? if they aren't on drugs, they would have no problem passing the drug test and qualifying for welfare.

This.

I hope this *%%* get's nationalized. I'm all for helping the less fortunate out. However, I'm not busting my *!+ at work to support somebody's drug habit.
 
Originally Posted by ThrowedInDaGame

Originally Posted by kidplay

Originally Posted by ErickM713

On the fence about this.
I mean I've known people who are on welfare who don't do drugs, but then I've known people on welfare who are dope heads.

how does this put you on the fence? if they aren't on drugs, they would have no problem passing the drug test and qualifying for welfare.

This.

I hope this *%%* get's nationalized. I'm all for helping the less fortunate out. However, I'm not busting my *!+ at work to support somebody's drug habit.



....this line always kills me 
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so much ignorance.....
 
 
 
Originally Posted by ThrowedInDaGame

Originally Posted by kidplay

Originally Posted by ErickM713

On the fence about this.
I mean I've known people who are on welfare who don't do drugs, but then I've known people on welfare who are dope heads.

how does this put you on the fence? if they aren't on drugs, they would have no problem passing the drug test and qualifying for welfare.

This.

I hope this *%%* get's nationalized. I'm all for helping the less fortunate out. However, I'm not busting my *!+ at work to support somebody's drug habit.



....this line always kills me 
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so much ignorance.....
 
 
 
So what happens to those that fail? Are we just going to allow them to just do their drugs and commit crimes on the street? They need to rehabilitate these people so they can get clean.
 
So what happens to those that fail? Are we just going to allow them to just do their drugs and commit crimes on the street? They need to rehabilitate these people so they can get clean.
 
Originally Posted by ThrowedInDaGame

Originally Posted by kidplay

Originally Posted by ErickM713

On the fence about this.
I mean I've known people who are on welfare who don't do drugs, but then I've known people on welfare who are dope heads.

how does this put you on the fence? if they aren't on drugs, they would have no problem passing the drug test and qualifying for welfare.

This.

I hope this *%%* get's nationalized. I'm all for helping the less fortunate out. However, I'm not busting my *!+ at work to support somebody's drug habit.
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Who do you think is gonna pay for these drug tests? Tax dollars will pay even more for mandatory drug tests than they will for welfare. Rick Scott owns a bunch of clinics, i'm sure he's getting the contracts.
 
nothing wrong with it�
if there not on drugs there is nothing to worry about so it shouldn't be a problem

they should also get people off government assistance who dont need it�
 
nothing wrong with it�
if there not on drugs there is nothing to worry about so it shouldn't be a problem

they should also get people off government assistance who dont need it�
 
Originally Posted by ThrowedInDaGame

Originally Posted by kidplay

Originally Posted by ErickM713

On the fence about this.
I mean I've known people who are on welfare who don't do drugs, but then I've known people on welfare who are dope heads.

how does this put you on the fence? if they aren't on drugs, they would have no problem passing the drug test and qualifying for welfare.

This.

I hope this *%%* get's nationalized. I'm all for helping the less fortunate out. However, I'm not busting my *!+ at work to support somebody's drug habit.
laugh.gif


Who do you think is gonna pay for these drug tests? Tax dollars will pay even more for mandatory drug tests than they will for welfare. Rick Scott owns a bunch of clinics, i'm sure he's getting the contracts.
 
Originally Posted by seasoned vet

Originally Posted by ThrowedInDaGame

Originally Posted by kidplay


how does this put you on the fence? if they aren't on drugs, they would have no problem passing the drug test and qualifying for welfare.

This.

I hope this *%%* get's nationalized. I'm all for helping the less fortunate out. However, I'm not busting my *!+ at work to support somebody's drug habit.
....this line always kills me 
roll.gif

 
so much ignorance..... 
enlighten me please
 
Originally Posted by seasoned vet

Originally Posted by ThrowedInDaGame

Originally Posted by kidplay


how does this put you on the fence? if they aren't on drugs, they would have no problem passing the drug test and qualifying for welfare.

This.

I hope this *%%* get's nationalized. I'm all for helping the less fortunate out. However, I'm not busting my *!+ at work to support somebody's drug habit.
....this line always kills me 
roll.gif

 
so much ignorance..... 
enlighten me please
 
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