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Know what the Constitution is? Familiar with Homeland Security?
Know what the Constitution is? Familiar with Homeland Security?
I'm just curious. What would you propound?Originally Posted by SenatorJeffSmith
It's hard to appreciate a man who claims to be for the people and this whole YES I CAN propaganda yet he voted FOR the bailout which took money out of our pockets to give to corporate criminals that screwed up on OUR dime.Originally Posted by xCautioNx
We're on the same page, but IMO even 3rd parties have an agenda not in the best interest of the average or struggling American. I don't vote, what's the point when we have a two party system that collaborates to eliminate any other political platform? Might as well appreciate a president for his characteristics
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I thought that is what all politicians do?
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Yes, but the way you used didn't make sense to me. I dont see how human rights and characteristics of a president relate, policies aside as mentioned.
You cant say policies aside because it represents his character. If Obama were to nullify the constitution, would you still think he was a good person even if he's still everything listed in OPs first post? Like I said, used car salesman. If that's the case, then I dont see how anybody could not like a used car salesman. They're ALL sooo nice...
I said policies aside because the guy you quoted said it. Actually he said 'regardless of his politics.' But it's all the same to me.
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Yes, but the way you used didn't make sense to me. I dont see how human rights and characteristics of a president relate, policies aside as mentioned.
You cant say policies aside because it represents his character. If Obama were to nullify the constitution, would you still think he was a good person even if he's still everything listed in OPs first post? Like I said, used car salesman. If that's the case, then I dont see how anybody could not like a used car salesman. They're ALL sooo nice...
I guess if one votes on perception and political marketing (read:advertising) then his perceived people skills mask his political shortcomings.
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Also agreed.
Why? It is Democrats who control super majority in house and senate.. Elected by the people. Many of the politicians in the last 2 election cycleswho picked up seats for the Democrats had a LEFT LEANING. So the people ELECTED a LIBERAL government. Not a moderate government.. Although it is under thepremise of this party is more moderate.. The people in the seats are liberal THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE MODERATE. Neither did Conservatives when they hadPresident and a few seat majority in House and Senate.
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Whateversclever wrote:
Example 1.. Obama ending stem cell research
do you know how far we can advance the human race with stem cell research!
I could be 90 and have the lungs of a 18 year old.. but nooo obama had to stop it..
He ended the ban on stem cell research created by the previous administration.
I find this question to be bull crap anyways, personality wise and policy wise.. I think it is wrong to say you hate him for untrue things (i.e. he'sMuslim, or he's a terrorist, or he's not from the U.S., he wants to ruin the U.S. (on purpose) ) but to say you hate the man's personality andpolicy is just fine. Clinton, Kennedy, Reagan, Lincoln, FDR, Washington did not have 100% support. Calm down it is normal for people to not like a president orhis policies. Some hate may be misinformed, reaching, or absolutely crazy but it is how this game works.
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I could understand peole being upset over polices that may effect they're pocketbooks. but kets face facts here, Bush came off a highly contested win inhis first term, and didn't get nearly the amount of outrage Obama is seeing. Hell, i'll even go as far as to say I didn't see this amount of hatefor Bush at the end of his second term.
I honestly don't understand. The other side lost the election, strait up, no cheating, fair and square. But now it seems instead of coming togetheraccepting defeat and working with the new administration, or we as citizens lending our support to our president, they just want to go in the oppositedirection on everything out of spite. but this isn't a game. We have two wars going on, am energy catastrophe waiting to happen, an economy in shambles, ahealth care system on its last legs, and an education system, thats lagging behind most industrialized countries.
Now I'm not saying march lock step with policies you don't agree with. I didn't during bush's 8 years in the white house. But I also neverquestioned whether he was doing what he was doing out of love of country. If you have an opion voice it, but don't get on tv and cause a screaming matcgwith a congressman just because it will make the adminstration look bad, or might get you on Cnn. Be an adult.
People expect him to fix problems that took decades, some centuries to create, in six months. He has four years in office, lets let him atleast have 2 beforewe past judgement, for or against.
I honestly don't understand. The other side lost the election, strait up, no cheating, fair and square. But now it seems instead of coming togetheraccepting defeat and working with the new administration, or we as citizens lending our support to our president, they just want to go in the oppositedirection on everything out of spite. but this isn't a game. We have two wars going on, am energy catastrophe waiting to happen, an economy in shambles, ahealth care system on its last legs, and an education system, thats lagging behind most industrialized countries.
Now I'm not saying march lock step with policies you don't agree with. I didn't during bush's 8 years in the white house. But I also neverquestioned whether he was doing what he was doing out of love of country. If you have an opion voice it, but don't get on tv and cause a screaming matcgwith a congressman just because it will make the adminstration look bad, or might get you on Cnn. Be an adult.
People expect him to fix problems that took decades, some centuries to create, in six months. He has four years in office, lets let him atleast have 2 beforewe past judgement, for or against.
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because he's _______________ fill in any description that the Extreme Right has used (black/Muslim/a terrorist/not a U.S. citizen/A fascist/Nazi, etc. etc.) It is not only a fear drummed up by 1 side lying their !*$ off, and trying to scare Americans into Year before Civil War mindset. It is failure by the mediato strike down these crazy claims and bald face lies.. Not just on the Left but start going after the right.. They don't need to be up Obama's !*$ butthey shouldn't have this fake neutrality and let the viewer decide without giving the true fact.
I honestly think could happen (if this debate ever came up which it won't.. but for example's sake).. Let's say a debate on whether dogs should beshot in the face starts in the U.S. One side is for, one side is against. CNN will put them both on there. Hold neither side accountable (but they do, for evenentertaining this argument) and let them debate. Instead of at the end saying what is right/wrong they will say WELL, looks like a heated debate and both sidesmade good points. Allowing the people to run with the idea that it is in any way right to shoot a dog in the face. This is what has been going on for decadesbecause liberals are the "new kids on the block" so they get treated like they don't know better.. Where as conservatives are shown as"dignified, and experienced"... How about we treat each side the same, and we go after both sides and if what they say is bull, you tell the people..If one side is right, you say it..
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ultimately, i just want everyone who voted for obama to realize how ignorant they are about politics ... i would be content with after these 4 years are over,for everyone who elected this dude to look in the mirror and say "i messed up, ill read about my candidates more" ... thats all i ask ...
im not saying mccain would have been the greatest ... but obamas track record HAS NEVER WORKED in the world EVER ... in fact, the things he stands for has hurtevery single situation they were applied to ...
you all blew it, lets just hope we make it to the end of the term and yall dont make the same mistake again ...
im not saying mccain would have been the greatest ... but obamas track record HAS NEVER WORKED in the world EVER ... in fact, the things he stands for has hurtevery single situation they were applied to ...
you all blew it, lets just hope we make it to the end of the term and yall dont make the same mistake again ...
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Don't count the birthday candles too soon and make your wish..
edit: By the way.. Conservatism has helped all people?.. Just ask black people about Ronald Reagan. Yeah conservatism has helped every situation
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.....but who brought us into the situation we're currently at? Have you seen the decline of the nation in the past 8 years? Conservatives stay complainingabout how ineffective Obamas policies have worked but y'all fail to realize that you're the reason we're in this bull@#$%.
Off yourself b.
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Haven't you heard George Bush wasn't a conservative
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How could you hate Obama? If anyone has ever read the history of our country and what has made it great, you should hate Obama.
lrrr
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stop hot linking from my photobucket
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^Bigger emoticons don't mean a more-educated response
You've already gotten shot down multiple times in the health care threads if you want to tryagain...
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Originally Posted by JDB1523
^Bigger emoticons don't mean a more-educated responseYou've already gotten shot down multiple times in the health care threads if you want to try again...
A non-educated response was needed for an over the top non-educated statement ..
There is no need to debate an idiotic statement that the history of the U.S. and what the U.S. stands for would explain a legitimate hate of Obama. %$#$%*@ridiculous..
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Originally Posted by Essential1
Originally Posted by JDB1523
^Bigger emoticons don't mean a more-educated responseYou've already gotten shot down multiple times in the health care threads if you want to try again...
A non-educated response was needed for an over the top non-educated statement ..
There is no need to debate an idiotic statement that the history of the U.S. and what the U.S. stands for would explain a legitimate hate of Obama. %$#$%*@ ridiculous..
Is it safe to say that no matter what Obama/Democrats do, you will always support them and continue to make absurd comments to back them up?
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Originally Posted by Lrrr
stop hot linking from my photobucket
jrose5
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Exactly. This president is a bum and we all know why he was voted into office. I'm sick of people defending this joke of a president.
I knew his bull @%#@ would backfire. So glad his approval rating keeps dipping.
Just saw on Fox News earlier about the California farmers getting their water cut off because the Obama administration wanted to preserve the two inch fish.
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because when his term end in 2012 there will be no more united states of america
