News Flash NY Bloods aren't as Fake as ya'll believe

[thousandaire]

 

[noslickremarks]

Originally Posted by ii FLaSh ii

Originally Posted by MR MONDAY NIIGHT

Originally Posted by ii FLaSh ii

Is that Pistol Pete from TS they talking about?

Nah

Aigght... Imma start checking this show out...

SMM Pistol Pete... like 10 years younger than TS Pistol Pete

 

[DVMNXK]

I here the talk about gangs in NY are "Fake".

They are.

Many (not all) Chicago and Los Angeles motherland natives have shown great animosity and hatred towards this new Gang.
Good.

 

[questions03]

Originally Posted by Apollo XXXIII

Originally Posted by Thousandaire


Oh yeah...

FreezeTag wrote:

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Originally Posted by youngjordan23

I jus got thru watching the episode of gangland and for watever reason it really interested me. Maybe it's because i grew up in a neighborhood with a big blood influence. However i realize everytime theres a thread about gangs or listen to some old NY cats I here the talk about gangs in NY are "Fake". Although i never really believed this after reading some articles online i have come to the realization that East coast Bloods(UBN) is jus as big if not bigger than Westcoast Bloods.


The United Blood Nation (UBN) originated as a Blood card in the west coast prison systems in the early 80's to put down all street beef between bloods in prison who wanted to participate with the card and unite them to protect themselves from the Crips, Sureños, and Aryans. The original UBN card had an influence in California and Washington State prison systems. The original west coast concept is now completely dead, but was re-birthed in the east coast by O.G. Mack when he created the East Coast version of the united Blood Nation card in 1993 in the C-73 section of New Yorks Rikers Island Correctional Facility.

O.G. Mack, whos real name is Omar Portee, was raised by his grandmother on 183rd Street and Davidson Avenue in the Bronx and was an active high ranking member of a ruthless gang in the area called the One Eight Trey Gangsters who were part of the NYG alliance. He was arrested in 1988 at age 16 for an armed robbery he participated in with his gang. After serving 3 years at Rikers Island, he was released in 1991 at age 19 and went out to the west coast to spend time with his family in Los Angeles in an attempt to stay away from the trouble of hanging around the deadly gangs of New York City. What he didn't realize was that gangs where also very prevalent in Los Angeles and his family in Los Angeles were members of the Miller Gangster Bloods. O.G. Mack's natural ruhtlessness impressed his family and the Miller Gangster Bloods who quickly absorbed him into the Los Angeles gang culture. Even though he never officially joined the Millers, he still participated in their gang activities and was considered a Blood while he stayed a loyal member of the One Eight Trey Gangsters. 2 years later (1993) he returned to New York City to spread the Bloods with the permission of the Millers. Upon returning to New York City he was welcomed back by the One Eight Trey Gangsters with open arms and O.G. Mack quickly convinced the gang to drop from the NYG alliance and tranform the One Eight Trey Gangsters into the One Eight Trey Gangster Bloods under the Bloods alliance. Within months of returning to New York City O.G. Mack was arrested for attempted murder and sent back to Rikers Island.

By early 1993 The Bloodline Latin Kings (Bloodline is a nickname for the New York State Chapter of the Latin Kings, which was started by King Blood) and the Netas were the 2 largest and most violent latino organizations on the streets and prisons of New York City and were inflicting violence on blacks along with other Latino organizations like DDP (Dominicans Don't Play), Trinitarios (3ni), La Familia, and many others. The latino organizations controlled the New York State prison systems and targeted indepedent black gangs with daily acts of violence. At this time the existing independent black organizations in Rikers Island were fighting amongst themselves over street beef that they carried over into the jails and weren't recieving help from the NYG or NYC allainces. Also present were the 8 Ballers (8 Ball Crips), which was a super-sized Hybrid gang born in Kansas City Missouri as the result of the Crips and Gangster Disciples in Kansas City merging their gangs into one. They quickly made their way to New York City and successfully united most of New York City's existing Crips and Gangster Disciples into 8 Ballers. The independent gangs and O.G Mack's Blood set desperately needed a way to unite, which would be the only way they could protect themselves. In October of 1993 O.G. Mack (who was already a high ranking member of the One Eight Trey Gangster Bloods who's original turf is from 183rd street & Andrews avenue to Webster avenue in The Bronx, NY) saw the void of unity with the independent black organizations in Rikers Island and called for a meeting of several gang leaders. He approached them with the idea of uniting their gangs togther as Blood sets and expanding to help end the violence the Latin organizations and 8 Ball Crips were inflicting upon them by creating an East Coast version of the United Blood Nation in Rikers Island. Some of the existing independent black organizations in Rikers Island were tired of fighting amongst themselves and saw this as a great opportunity to unite and finally stop the abuse from the Latino organizations and end the racial conflicts between blacks and latins in the NY prison system.

Within a few months, four of the independent black organizations in Rikers Island were sanctioned into Blood sets by O.G. Mack and helped re-birth the U.B.N. card along with O.G. Mack's right hand man named O.G. Deadeye (Leonard Mackenzie). O.G. Deadeye got his nickname for his cloudy right eye that looked dead. Deadeye, formerly of Howard Avenue in Brooklyn, was born to a 14-year-old mother. Deadeye's rap sheet showed 11 arrests between 1985 and 1993, including three robberies, two assaults, a gun charge and a murder. O.G. Deadeye was the Captain of his own GodBody cipher under the NYG alliance that was based in Rikers Island and upon meeting O.G. Mack he flipped his Cipher into the GKB (Gangster Killer Bloods) a.k.a. G Shine Bloods set which helped fuel the growth of the re-born UBN in prison.

Many Bloodline Latin Kings, Netas and other latinos who didn't agree with latinos attacking blacks over race also decided flip and join the UBN sets. The Bloods quickly became a strong force in the prison systems on the east and the Bloodline Latin Kings, Netas, DDP's Trinitarios, La Familia, and 8 Ball Crips no longer severely out-numbered them. The unfair abuse stopped but a fair war began which lead to many years of bloodshed between Latin organizations and the 8 ball Crips against the UBN Blood sets in New Yorks prison system.

By the year 2001, 8 years after the UBN was first introduced in Rikers Island, the Bloods were a major force in prison systems and cities all across the eastern seaboard from Maine to Florida. In this same year, the UBN merged with Black P Stone East (New Yorks Chapter of the Almighty Black P Stone Nation) to reconstruct the entire UBN as an entirely new super-sized Hybrid gang (just like the 8 Ball Crips). The sets that originated under the East Coast version of the UBN soon spread beyond the east throughout the whole south, some parts of the midwest, and even the west coast in states like Oregon and Washington. There are only 5 Blood sets that originated under the East Coast UBN concept but they are all spread throughout the United States and very large in numbers. The sets that originated under the East Coast UBN each own massive amounts of territories all around the United States. The reason for this is because they rapidly spread through the prison systems (unlike the Bloods in L.A., which spread in their neighborhoods), so when members started being released from jail they went back to their own separate neighborhoods, started recruiting, and formed their own sub-clicks of each set called "Line-Ups" or "Lines".

4 out of the 5 Original East Coast UBN sets already existed as street organizations before joining the Bloods. These sets are the One Eight Trey Gangsters which was lead by O.G. Mack (Omar Portee) and headquarters are 183rd Street & Davidson Avenue in the West Bronx, Sex Money Murder which was lead by Pistol Pete (Peter Rollack) and headquarters is Soundview Projects in the East Bronx, Valentine Gangster Bloods which was created from the entire Chapter 4 of the Universal Zulu Nation flipping to Blood under the decision of it's highest ranking leader named Valentine and their headquarters are the Bronx River Projects, and G Shine (GKB) which originated as a GodBody cipher under O.G. Deadeye. The Nine Trey Gangsters (who's name represents 1993 Gangsters which shows homage to the year they started) started in Rikers Island as a result of inmates who belonged to no particular gang banning together to create this Blood set, and Rikers Island is regarded as their headquarters.

Even though the original East Coast UBN Blood sets have turfs in multiple cities spread throughout much of the United states, each member of these sets still show great loyalty to the East Coast and New York City. They all call themselves East Side Riders and throw up the East Coast hand sign to show their devotion and loyalty to New York City as the motherland for the rebirth of the UBN. Also, many members of these 5 orginal sets have broken away and branched out to form and estabish their own East Side (East Coast) Blood sets.

The UBN is known to have a secret UBN Book Of Knowledge that contains pages of information such as advanced codes, oaths, pledges, customs, and prayers that each of the Blood sets under the UBN must learn and live by. The UBN Book Of Knowledge was created as the result of the Almighty Flame Alliance, which is the name of the merger between the UBN and Black P Stone East that caused the new reconstruction of the UBN as a super-sized Hybrid gang. The UBN takes the Book of Knowledge so serious that they have even put a hit out on O.G. Mack (their founder) by labeling him "food' for violating their first rule - "In our organization we will have no snitches". The UBN now represents the Black P Stones 5 point star/principles, but instead of considering themselves a part of the People Nation alliance or the Bloods alliance, they consider themselves the "United Blood Nation - The New Blood of the People Alliance". This merger has been widely embraced by many Blood sets and Black P Stone Decks around the country and the world which has lead to hundreds to thousands of new UBN sets. Many (not all) Chicago and Los Angeles motherland natives have shown great animosity and hatred towards this new Gang.



So with this i'm wondering how can anyone really sit here and act like These gangs in Ny are just a phase?

 

[oh you mad]

LA>>>NY

 

[ii flash ii]

Good looks Eggy... That was a interesting excerpt...

 

[guccimanelaflare]

Originally Posted by Thousandaire

i dont mean to d-ride but you got the youtube of you in the cartiers in detroit maybe a cdq of the song perhaps?

��

 

[treb2k5]

Originally Posted by Thousandaire


Oh yeah...

 

[youngjordan23]

Originally Posted by Illuztrious

I here the talk about gangs in NY are "Fake".

They are.

Many (not all) Chicago and Los Angeles motherland natives have shown great animosity and hatred towards this new Gang.
Good.

Even though he never officially joined the Millers, he still participated in their gang activities and was considered a Blood while he stayed a loyal member of the One Eight Trey Gangsters. 2 years later (1993) he returned to New York City to spread the Bloods with the permission of the Millers. Upon returning to New York City he was welcomed back by the One Eight Trey Gangsters with open arms and O.G. Mack quickly convinced the gang to drop from the NYG alliance and tranform the One Eight Trey Gangsters into the One Eight Trey Gangster Bloods under the Bloods alliance. Within months of returning to New York City O.G. Mack was arrested for attempted murder and sent back to Rikers Island.

Even though the East Side UBN has Blood sets and lines in multiple cities spread throughout much of the United states, each member of these sets and/or lines still show great loyalty to the East Coast and New York City as the motherland of the East Side UBN no matter where they are. They all call themselves East Side Riders and throw up the East Side hand sign to show their devotion and loyalty to New York City as the motherland of the East Side UBN.


He was given permission by a west coast blood to start the gang in Rikers so how exactly is a group with nearly 10,000 members fake. Take into account thatthey started in 1993

 

[thousandaire]

Originally Posted by GucciManeLaflare

Originally Posted by Thousandaire

i dont mean to d-ride but you got the youtube of you in the cartiers in detroit maybe a cdq of the song perhaps?

��

I'll hit u up with it in a PM tomorrow, I got off the computer, I'm on my phone now

 

[coolnificent]

Originally Posted by Oh YoU MaD

LA>>>NY

When it comes to gangs.

 

[sylvestermcgrizzly]

 

[mac a roni]

[color= rgb(102, 0, 153)]Its sad how gangland somewhat glorifies these gangs as being these masterminds...when its all saidand done they just some ignorant dumb !%+ kids/adults...there is literally 4 or 5 geniuses who have these stupid ones carry their plan[/color]

 

[albooboo5]

Originally Posted by Mac A Roni

Its sad how gangland somewhat glorifies these gangs as being these masterminds...when its all said and done they just some ignorant dumb !%+ kids/adults...there is literally 4 or 5 geniuses who have these stupid ones carry their plan

pretty much and then these e-gangsters come in here and glorify it further

 

[noslickremarks]

Originally Posted by Mac A Roni

[color= rgb(102, 0, 153)]Its sad how gangland somewhat[/color] glorifies [color= rgb(102, 0, 153)]these gangs as being these masterminds...when its all said and done they just some ignorant dumb !%+ kids/adults...there is literally[/color] 4 or 5 geniuses [color= rgb(102, 0, 153)]who have these stupid ones carry their plan[/color]

It's like some puppet master type thing.... you have to be smart...... they are just letting people know that they aren't as ignorant asyou might think
Street Smart> School Smart
It could mean life and death

"Don't mess with the BLOODS"- Cam

 

[freezetag]

Originally Posted by youngjordan23

Originally Posted by Illuztrious

I here the talk about gangs in NY are "Fake"?.

They are.

Many (not all) Chicago and Los Angeles motherland natives have shown great animosity and hatred towards this new Gang.

Good.

Even though he never officially joined the Millers, he still participated in their gang activities and was considered a Blood while he stayed a loyal member of the One Eight Trey Gangsters. 2 years later (1993) he returned to New York City to spread the Bloods with the permission of the Millers. Upon returning to New York City he was welcomed back by the One Eight Trey Gangsters with open arms and O.G. Mack quickly convinced the gang to drop from the NYG alliance and tranform the One Eight Trey Gangsters into the One Eight Trey Gangster Bloods under the Bloods alliance. Within months of returning to New York City O.G. Mack was arrested for attempted murder and sent back to Rikers Island.

Even though the East Side UBN has Blood sets and lines in multiple cities spread throughout much of the United states, each member of these sets and/or lines still show great loyalty to the East Coast and New York City as the motherland of the East Side UBN no matter where they are. They all call themselves East Side Riders and throw up the East Side hand sign to show their devotion and loyalty to New York City as the motherland of the East Side UBN.


He was given permission by a west coast blood to start the gang in Rikers so how exactly is a group with nearly 10,000 members fake. Take into account that they started in 1993

 

[mac a roni]

Originally Posted by AlBooBoo5

Originally Posted by Mac A Roni

[color= rgb(102, 0, 153)]Its sad how gangland somewhat glorifies these gangs as being these masterminds...when its all said and done they just some ignorant dumb !%+ kids/adults...there is literally 4 or 5 geniuses who have these stupid ones carry their plan[/color]

pretty much and then these e-gangsters come in here and glorify it further

[color= rgb(102, 0, 153)]This is holding us black people back....people in high positions see this and generalizethe whole race[/color]

 

[youngjordan23]

This is what fascinates me about this topic How can a few guys have enough power and influence to have people they never even met willing to hurt themselvesand others just to be down with them. The whole logic of gangs is such an interesting topic. From the beginning of the blood nation in cali, to the formationon rikers. The topic interests da hell outta me

 

[guccimanelaflare]

Thousandaire wrote:

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Originally Posted by GucciManeLaflare

Originally Posted by Thousandaire

i dont mean to d-ride but you got the youtube of you in the cartiers in detroit maybe a cdq of the song perhaps?

��

I'll hit u up with it in a PM tomorrow, I got off the computer, I'm on my phone now


�� appreciated , that was my joint

 

[DVMNXK]

He was given permission by a west coast blood to start the gang in Rikers
Then the question comes to mind, who was this Westcoast Blood. What made his word or authority so valid? Did anyone know him or respect him beyondhis own Blood set?

so how exactly is a group with nearly 10,000 members fake.
Numbers mean nothing dude. That's just 10k fraudulent people having an identity crisis.

Take into account that they started in 1993

, Most of the LA OG's had been in prison for decadeswhen '93 rolled around. That's not saying a whole lot.


At the end of the day, I will never respect or recognize a Crip or Blood or any other midwest/ westoast gang from NY or any eastern state. It just doesn'tprocess in my head. LA is synonymous with gangbanging, as is Chicago, Kansas City, etc. I'm not saying kids in NY aren't liable to murder you as fastor faster as anyone else in the country but the whole colors facade just makes ya'll look silly and extremely d***riderish. Lastly, I'm not endorsingany gang acitivty or anything, I've never banged...like millions of other kids, you just grow up around it and you're embedded in the lifestyle whetheryou want to be or not. When I'm at home home, I know to chill on wearing certain colors and I know whichneighborhoods to straight up avoid because after all....

[color= rgb(0, 0, 153)]"Denver, is just like Compton"[/color]

 

[youngjordan23]

Personally i'm not a gangbanger so it is wat it is. But it is fact that There were QSB Bloods who started a in Branch Jersey
(On the 4th of July of 1993, the Down The Hill Mob gang in East Orange, New Jersey (Illtown) was sanctioned to become The Double ii Bloods sub-click (line) ofthe Queens Street Bloods by 2 visitng west coast rappers named True G and Love Child who were part of the Queen Street Bloods 500blk in Inglewood, California.Double ii means "From Illtown to Inglewood", a name created by a rapper named Squeak Ru from Inglewood Neighborhood Piru to symbolize therelationship between the 2 areas.)

These bloods along with BPS were in rikers during the same period where "OG Mack" created the UBN. And they merged with the UBN so it's kindahard for me to understand how they aren't a real set of bloods if they were sanctioned by bloods from an og cali set.

 

[DVMNXK]

This is what fascinates me about this topic How can a few guys have enough power and influence to have people they never even met willing to hurt themselves and others just to be down with them. The whole logic of gangs is such an interesting topic. From the beginning of the blood nation in cali, to the formation on rikers. The topic interests da hell outta me
I agree 100%.

The lifestyle is very alluring. I don't know too many Bloods but I know a gang of Crips, and GD's, etc. There's a real sense of family amongstthem, like I was their homeboy and we were close but when they were amongst their counterparts, I felt like an outsider. I rolled with them during a coupleincidents, it was getting to the point where I was becoming more of an associate than a friend. One of my boy's OG's pulled me to the side andbasically @##+%$% on me one day. Son was like "you think this !*!% is cool, but it's not, and I really don't think you're built forthis"...he was basically telling me to distance myself. I thought he was tripping back then but in hindsight he was just looking out for me, not trying tosee another one of us go down that same path. The truth is, most of the real cats banging would rather be doing something else. If you come across someone wholoves what they do and makes it sound like the best thing since sliced bread, they're either super loc'd out or just some idiot suburb kid trying toperpetrate. To the folks out there just who didn't really have a choice or anyone to stop them from getting sucked in, I tip my hat. I don'tneccesarily agree with everything ya'll are doing but, life's a !#+%#. To the lames who just want to be down, they get hit with the

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[DVMNXK]

Originally Posted by youngjordan23


Personally i'm not a gangbanger so it is wat it is. But it is fact that There were QSB Bloods who started a in Branch Jersey
(On the 4th of July of 1993, the Down The Hill Mob gang in East Orange, New Jersey (Illtown) was sanctioned to become The Double ii Bloods sub-click (line) of the Queens Street Bloods by 2 visitng west coast rappers named True G and Love Child who were part of the Queen Street Bloods 500blk in Inglewood, California. Double ii means "From Illtown to Inglewood", a name created by a rapper named Squeak Ru from Inglewood Neighborhood Piru to symbolize the relationship between the 2 areas.)

These bloods along with BPS were in rikers during the same period where "OG Mack" created the UBN. And they merged with the UBN so it's kinda hard for me to understand how they aren't a real set of bloods if they were sanctioned by bloods from an og cali set.

I see what you're saying son but it's like saying we're related because my momma's cousin's brother in law's father'sniece on her daddy's side blessed me. It's like what?

 

[youngjordan23]

^^

I was actually in a very similar situation last weekend. My friend calls me up and says we going to a party. Me and him are basically the same type of peoplestreet smart but not consumed by the hood. When i get in da car he got 3 other dudes wit em who were claimin blood but i'm Like F it we going to a party ata clubhouse in Westchester Ny wat could possibly go wrong.

When i got there EVERY dude in da party is either Blood or Crip. So they go along piecen dey bloods and checkin crips and from dat point i knew something wasgonna go wrong. Da party was cool till zeke from dipset came out, and got these %@!++# hyped beyond belief, it was like the blood messiah just came out. Longstory short blood dude i came wit goes to the other side of the floor and gets jumped by some crip %@!++# party gets stopped and now we outside trying toscramble out the parking lot before we get clapped at

 

[wildout4]

bloods from CA move all over the US and start blood gangs