***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[EddieDoyers]

eh........from what I read, they agree with a lot of the budgets cuts and proposed slashes to social work agencies that the Trump admin wants to do.

Conservative writers - the good ones....share a lot of similarities to the left leaning ones, they navigate through the bs and hone in on the 1 or 2 factors that hold weight on a given issue.

You probably are only reading the conservative economists then

Because the likes of Glenn Beck and Ann Coulter are POS to me

 

[EddieDoyers]

Your father still loves Trump?

No he doesn't love Trump. But he likes many of his policies. He hates his tweeting and thin skin though.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Greg Mankiw is a good right wing economist to read, in fact the whole NYT Upshot is a good econ blog.

Mankiw jabs at Trump and treat the GOP plans with kid gloves though. While Krugman just lets the yoppa sing

-I wish folk would read more Socialist news sources though. Liberals tend get exposed to political arguments to the right of them, but not the left.

 

[dragicon]

Anybody know who the two on the right are?

 

[RustyShackleford]

Sorry if posted already but remember the chick that voted for Trump and her husband was scheduled to be deported, welp the bounced him.

But there is a new revelation.

Apparently ole girl immigrated to America illegally as well.

http://www.southbendtribune.com/new...cle_65151376-10b7-11e7-ba7c-6783f924ac92.html

She said she flew from her home in Greece to Chicago legally when she was 10, coming with an aunt to visit Helen’s sister. She decided to stay after her visa expired, not fully understanding immigration laws, and went to school in Chicago.

Twelve years later, she flew back to Greece because her dad was fighting cancer. And four months after that, she realized that she couldn’t return to the U.S. because she’d become an illegal immigrant.

So, she said, she flew to Canada and crossed the U.S. border with the driver’s license that she’d obtained when she was 16. She said she also had a Social Security card that was marked “not valid for employment.” It was 1991.

Then in 1993, she made an appointment with the U.S. Embassy in Greece, where she came back to Athens, went through some paperwork and gained a legal visa to enter the U.S. In 2002, she said, she gained citizenship.

And she thinks things will just blow over

http://www.wndu.com/content/news/Ed...ted-Friday-according-to-family-416870603.html

Helen was looking at the bright side at the time, thinking it would only be months until he could come back to the U.S.

"Yeah, it's going to be a long vacation in Riviera Maya," she said.

At this point, their attorney says it's unlikely that will be the case unless the administration changes.

 

[dragicon]

^ it took me 2.5 years just to get a permanent residence visa for my wife... good luck trying to get him back in so easily...:

 

[RustyShackleford]

I qualified to become a citizen in 2002 when my mom naturalized, I finally got my naturalization cert. and took my oath in 2009.

The certificate plainly says I became a citizen in 2002 too.

Immigration processing is a damb mess, ole boy is not getting back in anything soon

Baby girl gonna be racking up the airline miles.

 

[EddieDoyers]

"Stupid is what stupid does"

 

[Nike Jordan]

As soon as I hit the lottery, my *** is gone. 

 

[frink85]

Thanks to sex education and prophylactic availability. The same things the right wishes they could take away.

no, da (religious) right just doesn't want to foot da bill for things it doesn't believe in (lil sister of da poor vs Obama administration on contraceptions)

The Pro-Life Action League opposes artificial birth control (contraception), not only because it destroys the inherent meaning of the sexual act as a sign of permanent, life-giving love, but because of the disastrous consequences it has wrought on our society.

https://prolifeaction.org/fact_type/where-we-stand/

The beauty and goodness of sex between husband and wife is a gift from God and has two purposes: to express and strengthen the loving union between husband and wife and to allow them to cooperate with God in the creation of children. Nothing should separate the connection between the two purposes. If spouses believe that they have a serious reason to avoid pregnancy, they are free to observe the wife’s natural signs of fertility and avoid sexual intercourse
during the fertile time of her menstrual cycle, as explained in the modern science-based methods of Natural Family Planning

http://www.usccb.org/issues-and-action/human-life-and-dignity/contraception/index.cfm

 

[ninjahood]

Ninja, which conservative columnists do you read?

I am curious because I do read several, unlike a lot of individuals in this thread.

Jeffery Lloyd from CNN, American Spectator.

Zerohedge

reason.com blogs

wallstreet journal

Michael Goodwin from NY post.

 

[handullz]

Really? How so? 

There are quite a lot of rational conservative sources, a lot of them bring up good points.....

Conservative is a bad word around these parts.

What's crazy is that the left and right both tend to have a negative impression of the other side and say many of the same things about each other.

Financial publications tend to be moderately conservative

 

[dacomeup]

 @ Conservative being a bad word around here. Being a conservative WONK is the problem. I can certainly respect opinions on both sides of the spectrum when backed with sound reasoning. Dudes playing on racism, xenophobia, sexism, etc, won't be tolerated by me at all, though.

 

[jape]

What's crazy is that the left and right both tend to have a negative impression of the other side and say many of the same things about each other.
 

you are a lame.  you've done this same song and dance in here numerous times.

 

[AEA18]

Sorry if posted already but remember the chick that voted for Trump and her husband was scheduled to be deported, welp the bounced him.

But there is a new revelation.

Apparently ole girl immigrated to America illegally as well.

http://www.southbendtribune.com/new...cle_65151376-10b7-11e7-ba7c-6783f924ac92.html

She said she flew from her home in Greece to Chicago legally when she was 10, coming with an aunt to visit Helen’s sister. She decided to stay after her visa expired, not fully understanding immigration laws, and went to school in Chicago.

Twelve years later, she flew back to Greece because her dad was fighting cancer. And four months after that, she realized that she couldn’t return to the U.S. because she’d become an illegal immigrant.

So, she said, she flew to Canada and crossed the U.S. border with the driver’s license that she’d obtained when she was 16. She said she also had a Social Security card that was marked “not valid for employment.” It was 1991.

Then in 1993, she made an appointment with the U.S. Embassy in Greece, where she came back to Athens, went through some paperwork and gained a legal visa to enter the U.S. In 2002, she said, she gained citizenship.

And she thinks things will just blow over

http://www.wndu.com/content/news/Ed...ted-Friday-according-to-family-416870603.html

Helen was looking at the bright side at the time, thinking it would only be months until he could come back to the U.S.

"Yeah, it's going to be a long vacation in Riviera Maya," she said.

At this point, their attorney says it's unlikely that will be the case unless the administration changes.

Why are these people so damn stupid?

That white supremacy the orange clown was peddling just too good to pass up

 

[AEA18]

 @ Conservative being a bad word around here. Being a conservative WONK is the problem. I can certainly respect opinions on both sides of the spectrum when backed with sound reasoning. Dudes playing on racism, xenophobia, sexism, etc, won't be tolerated by me at all, though.

Almost every so-called independent conservative that posts ITT end up banned for racist posts.

handullz and @BlackIntellect should post the conservative writers they follow.

 

[Mr.Guy]

Ninja conservative but got an apartment full of depreciating assets made in china [emoji]128514[/emoji]

 

[Mr.Guy]

who said im a conservative? i read all sides of da spectrum. u doing too **** holding. fall all da way back b.

Could of sworn I saw you say you're a conservative independent.

 

[rillo561]

We still playing this game

 

[handullz]

Almost every so-called independent conservative that posts ITT end up banned for racist posts.

handullz and @BlackIntellect should post the conservative writers they follow.

I stated in my original post that financial publications tend to be conservative, but on a moderate scale.

I don't follow writers. If I know their names, I might have some subconscious bias, and I'm trying to eliminate that as much as possible.

Everyone thinks they're moderate but they're not, including me.

 

[AEA18]

Post whatever you read that is conservative.

If you're tired of it not being represented in this thread then post it.

It's the same complaint each time about the "liberalness" of this thread but nothing on the opposing side is posted by the person complaining.

Show us these conservative columnist we should be reading. Balance the thread. Pop da liberal bubble.

 

[IATT]

:x

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/bannon-resign-mercer-trump-236939

 

[rolaholic]

Apparently they got their wish seeing as Bannon was at the NSC meeting today and said this

@demartosko: Steve Bannon told me just now that a report he threatened to quit over NSC flap is a "total lie"; says "zero" chance he's going anywhere

 

[dacomeup]

It's really that simple. Post what you read.

 

[rolaholic]

A sliver of positive news to start the day off..

@ReutersPolitics: BREAKING: House Intelligence Chairman Nunes says he will temporarily step down from panel's Russia investigation https://t.co/7T4Bnpsbdp

First Sessions now Nunes,Trump surrogates continuously dropping the ball and having to recuse themselves from the Russia probe