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Discussion in 'Music' started by brivera716, Apr 20, 2017.
Travis doesn’t really sound the way he did when he first got on the scene. He has his own sound now.
This podcast has some potential. I love Vince take in the first few minutes on hiphop not really being as lopsided as it may seem. He basically states that the untalented cats are rinse & recyclable, don't have their business in order the majority of the times, and that the real creatives are getting paid the most. which i sort of agree with in MOST cases.
That dude (Apex) is actually my friend’s homie. I didn’t believe the story at first but a few of my boys know the apex dude personally so they confirmed it. Crazy stuff
I don't know about.
So did they run the fade or nah
Travis sounded like he didn’t really wanna fight
Not cause he a sucka
But like he just came to talk
And check the temperature
And torey just decided to go 0-100.........real quick
For no reason
Like dudes can’t even have convos nowadays
Without folks tryna do to much for the cameras
And folks around
Seems like what torey was doing
I really dislike dude
And torey......matter of fact
I’m a start calling him by his real name
Daystar is trash I really don’t like dude
Yeah I’m a hater
So ****ing what
Daystar just gives me those
And I’ll say it to ur face u sucka *** *****
I dare u to run up
Pm me daystar
And I’ll run the fade
I don’t even ig or fb like that
So u ain’t gotta worry about me recording nothin or letting folks know
I really don’t like u
Bet you won't pull to his next Oakland show
They fighting over who use more autotune
Random but this is such a cool commercial
I like how hip hop culture is now being noticed as dominant
I mean I’ll pass by
But I ain’t paying to get in
To give daystar the fade
He gonna have to meet me outside
Or let me get in for free
To give him the fade
This is what exactly what happened
Before white folks took over rock
This was super dope, but Vince Staples is annoying as hell. He knows what he’s talking about, but son be talking over OGs.
I like Vince and he seems like a very smart dude, but son be going a mile a minute.
How you tell someone to handle bings like a man when he comes up to you when he sees you to speak about the issue y’all have.
Walls closing in on Torey.
Tory on “Litty” (Meek song) sounds like a carbon copy of Travis
Wypipo definitely trying to take over and make it their's. It's getting real soft, commercialized and safe.
That shorty from stranger things? Wow. He done hit a growth spurt like ****
He made that song though. Meek was trash on it and got outshined as usual
Vince Staples rambles alot but during his streams of consciousness he dropped a few gems.
When he spoke on Art and Commerce and how Hip-Hop factors into that...I had to salute.
The game was bought and sold a LONG time ago...and alot of your favorite rappers/moguls were responsible for it...no matter how dope their music might have been. That's why I can only laugh when *****s start talking about "gatekeepers" and "preserving culture".
The idealized "culture" of Hip Hop that people want to believe in doesn't actually exist. Why doesn't Waka Flocka go ban the jews that forced him to go sit at another table cause he wasn't an earner for them anymore?
To piggy back off another thing he said...remove all labels and genres away and what you have is a spirit of BLACK music that influences the world and it changes it's face every few generations. At this point...i'm waiting for the next evolution of what that is and hopefully the commercial structure it operates in doesn't fall into white people's... the wrong hands.
Vince Comparing Hip-Hop to Art sounded slick in the beginning until i further analyzed it a bit & it's the same old thought that artist shouldn't get paid or that "true" artist are broke. While i do believe in the concept that hiphop doesn't demand the monetary value of other forms of Art, it does (The Good Hiphop atleast) hold value and worth through the years & Times. Illmatic is 25+ in and is still referenced constantly, Classes are being taught on tupac's discography, it's still something that the hiphop culture holds in high regards.
His comparison to art kind of throws me off because while the artist may not get recognition for their art until years later, it's usually due to capitalism & Influence from the rich. Their are plenty of art dealers who treat art the way execs treat rap, they may not have true understanding of the artform, it may mean nothing to them. but a few people in the know stamp it & now it's the art dealers job to promote & create hype.
This idea that the "culture" doesn't exist or that we don't control it only happens when we look at it in monetary forms & from a "mainstream" view point. like they were saying on the show their are plenty of artist who exist, tour & release great music w/o the backing of the label or mainstream media. The problem is that at some point mainstream media tricked people into thinking they are the culture & that they dictate things because they back more money into it.
That's not what he said at all. He specifically spoke on hip-hop having an industry that is DRIVEN by commerce and materialism and. An art dealer's job is to SELL art. The art dealer isn't influencing the artist on what to make. There is no fine art equivalent of a "radio record". Basquiat wasn't saying..."damn I gotta use these brush strokes cause artist a, b, c, and d are doing this and this is what's popping". He's not submitting a painting to an art dealer for the art dealer to tell him..."hmm...you know what I think you should make this like this so it will sell more". Art is supposed to appreciate. The guy that copped a Picasso for 100 million can flip that down the line.
How much can you or Nas sell Illmatic for right now? I know how much the publishing company that owns it can sell it for.
On another note...
@wavycrocket my homie played a Lucci song that had a Killa Cam sample. What's the name of the song?