T-Mobile and the iPhone. it's here.

[supremewellbeing]

What took them so long in the first place? Just wondering.

Apple requires and do monitor carrier networks. you have to have solid network. ATT network was light years ahead years ago thats why they got it first, then verizon since they upped their game. I have no ideal how sprint got it, im sure it was because of sprint $$$ but sprint is doing lte upgrades now

 

[milestailsprowe]

So if I am going to end up paying $70 a month or whatever for T-Mobile, why wouldn't I just go to Verizon where I can get the phone at a subsidized price and pay the same monthly amount as I would if I was to have a payment plan on the phone through T-Mobile. IMO this is a crash course on how to blow up your business. T-Mobile better figure out a way to upgrade their network to at least Verizon's level or I see a bunch of people jumping ship if this actually happens.

the cheapest Verizon smart phone plan is $90 with 1gig of data And T-Mobile with unlimited very thing is $90

 

[nako xl]

So if I am going to end up paying $70 a month or whatever for T-Mobile, why wouldn't I just go to Verizon where I can get the phone at a subsidized price and pay the same monthly amount as I would if I was to have a payment plan on the phone through T-Mobile. IMO this is a crash course on how to blow up your business. T-Mobile better figure out a way to upgrade their network to at least Verizon's level or I see a bunch of people jumping ship if this actually happens.

Because the T-Mobile value plan will still be cheaper than the AT&T and Verizon plans.

Now that they have the iPhone, lack of an LTE network is the main reason AT&T and Verizon are more appealing than T-Mobile.  But as far as cost?  T-Mobile's plans are cheaper.  You just gotta decide if the speed and coverage difference matters that much to you or if you're willing to wait for them to upgrade their network.  In Manhattan T-Mobile is probably the better choice.  In Hoboken?  Not so much.

 

[darthdeezy]

T-Mobile will be rolling out their LTE first qtr of 2013.
Its not like they need it. They dont have as huge a customer base as ATT or Verizon cloggin up the towers.
LTE overrated.

 

[datdude0903]

Is the method proposed really that bad though? If I could get you guys' thoughts on this. You pay $100 up front, then installments in your next 20 bills or so. But at any point you can trade in your phone for "fair trade value" and upgrade your phone and NOT pay contract termination fees. Opposed to the contract plan, where you had to wait 11 or 22 months I think in order to get an upgrade or pay full price for the phone. If I understand correctly, this value plan idea is ideal for people who would like to change phones constantly, which is normal considering all the phones that release so frequently. Its kinda like leasing a car (I think). You pay upfront, plus a payment each month but at any point you can trade in for a better product. You're just bound to a contract. Tmobile already has the cheapest unlimited data value plans (I think), so you can pay around $90 a month for the iphone and the data plan. I may be out of the loop or misinformed but can someone shed light on why this is bad?

 

[ricky409]

What are you all talking about
There will a base plan of lets say $50 gets you unlimited everything
Then a phone Lets say a Samsung S3 for $600.
You can pay the $600 right now and only do $50 plus tax a month or you can pay $100 right now and pay the phone off for $20 more dollars on top of your $50 bill. That makes it $70 dollars amonth. How is that hard?

dont know where you're getting these numberrs from brah...

classic unlimited is $70, not $50

 

[xxpizzo]

Might be a dumb *** question but will this iphone for t-mobile have an android market or an apple market ?

 

[niquefreak94]

Might be a dumb *** question but will this iphone for t-mobile have an android market or an apple market ?

android isn't specific to T-Mobile...it's for androids....so it's only on androids.
iPhone's an Apple phone...so it'll have the App Store.

 

[adobecs4]

Might be a dumb *** question but will this iphone for t-mobile have an android market or an apple market ?

 

[xxpizzo]

Might be a dumb *** question but will this iphone for t-mobile have an android market or an apple market ?

dont see whats funny only reason i asked is cause my sidekick/samsung is android in which i prefer over apple. i was hoping the t-mobile iphone would have android also 

 

[airblaster503]

dont see whats funny only reason i asked is cause my sidekick/samsung is android in which i prefer over apple. i was hoping the t-mobile iphone would have android also 

Dude you can't be serious.

 

[adobecs4]

Might be a dumb *** question but will this iphone for t-mobile have an android market or an apple market ?

dont see whats funny only reason i asked is cause my sidekick/samsung is android in which i prefer over apple. i was hoping the t-mobile iphone would have android also 

 

[xxpizzo]

 

[niquefreak94]

i tried to spare him...and give him a real answer without making him seem...ya know, stupid.
but yeah there's no way that even seems logical.

 

[dauldierce]

Might be a dumb *** question but will this iphone for t-mobile have an android market or an apple market ?

LMAOOOOO

Dumbest question i ever seen.

Dum question INDEED.



i hope ya trolling.

 

[Bert.]

some of you dudes are weird, you really want to pay FULL price for a phone? regardless of how you look at it. $600 is coming out of your pocket for the phone ALONG with paying your phone bill.

why are you brining up early termination? most people are using it anyways so thats a non factor, you ARENT PAYING IT! most people who sign a contract stay with it, good priced plan, cheap phone, no other fees...

 

[Bert.]

T-Mobile’s bold plan to get rid of handset subsidies has drawn some early plaudits. More transparency can’t be a bad thing, right? Telling consumers just how much they pay for the phone and how much for phone service will surely empower them. Unfortunately, the psychology of subsidies is insidious and phasing out phone subsidies may be a lot harder than introducing them.

As T-Mobile starts selling Apple’s iPhone in 2013, it will essentially have to charge between $300 and $800 for the handset, depending on the model, either up front or using an installment plan. Of course, most consumers paying $100 or $200 for an AT&T (T) or Verizon (VZ) iPhone know that subsidies merely shift the cost of the handset to their phone bill over the following 24 months. But that won’t make thinking about the real price any less painful.

Spain’s Telefonica decided last winter to drop subsidies and get honest with Spanish consumers. The result was a loss of nearly 640,000 subscribers in the second quarter of 2012. This is equal to losing millions of subscribers in a single quarter in a country as big as the United States.

The biggest winner in Spanish mobile market in 2012? Yoigo, the subsidy specialist that is rolling out a free iPhone 5 this month. The Spanish lesson in 2012 was that the operator that shifted to the most open and honest system of selling phones and contracts suffered grievously, and the operator that is subsidizing phones the most aggressively won big.

Most people may be vaguely aware that low phone prices created by subsidies are a mirage, but that does not mean they want to wake up and face the real price of a high-end smartphone. There is a reason why the $9.95 pricing trick has persisted for centuries. People know they are actually paying 10 bucks but their lizard brains still view $9.95 as kind of close to nine dollars.

As it happens, many European countries had hyper-rational handset pricing 10 years ago. Consumers paid the full cost of a handset and were offered just a few different plan options. The reason why Finland and other rational phone markets shifted to the U.S. subsidy model is that it works. Consumers want to be fooled by €99 smartphone deals. The first iPhone was a smash hit at its original $500 price, but it turned into a cultural phenomenon in America only after AT&T dropped the up-front price to $200.

Reversing psychological conditioning created by billions of advertising dollars spent over the years by AT&T and Verizon is the task that T-Mobile faces in 2013. Good luck with that.

btw this is in a different country, if you dont think thats gonna happen with Tmobile who is already hurting for customers and keep their own. Its gonna end bad for them, they finally start having good service, great internet, and now the most popular phone and they WANT to keep customers? LULZ

 

[nako xl]

some of you dudes are weird, you really want to pay FULL price for a phone? regardless of how you look at it. $600 is coming out of your pocket for the phone ALONG with paying your phone bill.

why are you brining up early termination? most people are using it anyways so thats a non factor, you ARENT PAYING IT! most people who sign a contract stay with it, good priced plan, cheap phone, no other fees...

I agree with you. 

But let's say... Samsung GS3... it was $349 (with the upgrade and 2yr commitment) when it came out.  So you're paying $350, then $70 a month on your unlimited phone plan.

Now let's say you only pay $100 up front, then $80-90 a month every month on the new value plan.  The amount you pay over time stays the same, the initial hit is just less jarring (for people who don't have the $350 to drop at once on a phone) but they get you over time.

Their phones are still gonna be cheaper, the difference is they're raising the cost of their service to pay for it.  It's still gonna be cheaper than the competition though, just not what we've come to want/be used to

 

[dipsetgeneral]

What took them so long in the first place? Just wondering.

I'm sayin'..

 

[Bert.]

some of you dudes are weird, you really want to pay FULL price for a phone? regardless of how you look at it. $600 is coming out of your pocket for the phone ALONG with paying your phone bill.


why are you brining up early termination? most people are using it anyways so thats a non factor, you ARENT PAYING IT! most people who sign a contract stay with it, good priced plan, cheap phone, no other fees...

I agree with you. 

But let's say... Samsung GS3... it was $349 (with the upgrade and 2yr commitment) when it came out.  So you're paying $350, then $70 a month on your unlimited phone plan.

Now let's say you only pay $100 up front, then $80-90 a month every month on the new value plan.  The amount you pay over time stays the same, the initial hit is just less jarring (for people who don't have the $350 to drop at once on a phone) but they get you over time.

Their phones are still gonna be cheaper, the difference is they're raising the cost of their service to pay for it.  It's still gonna be cheaper than the competition though, just not what we've come to want/be used to :\

reason im mentioning it is because of those with family plan. If your on a plan by yourself your fine i would say unless your really cheap

you got 2-3 people who want an iphone then how much does you payment balloon up? :x while the value plans are cheap they better have an incentive to those who are still on classic plans like myself.

tmobile wants everyone transferred over to the value plans, just to piss them off i wont even change unless they do something for me.

 

[zipp 202]

dont see whats funny only reason i asked is cause my sidekick/samsung is android in which i prefer over apple. i was hoping the t-mobile iphone would have android also 

Wow, you can not be serious. Have you been living in NH's basement for the last 8 years?

 

[vanillagorilladx]

LMAOOOOO
Dumbest question i ever seen.
Dum question INDEED.

i hope ya trolling.

At first, I tried to give him a pass for that question... but nah, where have you been the past couple of years? How do you not know the difference between Android and Apple/iOS?

 

[milestailsprowe]

dont know where you're getting these numberrs from brah...
classic unlimited is $70, not $50

I got the numbers from how much a S3 cost and I took a guess how much the plans are when they are not subsidized

 

[xxpizzo]

LMAOOOOO
Dumbest question i ever seen.
Dum question INDEED.

i hope ya trolling.

At first, I tried to give him a pass for that question... but nah, where have you been the past couple of years? How do you not know the difference between Android and Apple/iOS?

i clearly knew the difference between android and apple. All i was wondering is was it gonna have an android market instead of apple since its for t-mobile. And i got my answer no need to be weirdos in here, ohh wait this is NT

 

[airblaster503]

i clearly knew the difference between android and apple. All i was wondering is was it gonna have an android market instead of apple since its for t-mobile. And i got my answer no need to be weirdos in here, ohh wait this is NT

Dude it is APPLE, there for it is going to have the APPLE market. The iPhone doesn't run Android obviously, why the **** would it have the Android market????????

Man I have no faith in this younger generation