Tarantino's Masterpiece...Discuss

[epidemik the great]

Originally Posted by RIPyzyz

i'm not even about to touch on this

...Tarantino is the best...nuff said

ain't no error in that statement

 

[ripyzyz]

maybe you just need to clarify...the best at what?

 

[frostythepoptart]

i have the kill bill series at the top for me. call me crazy or w/e

followed by pulp

reservoir dogs

i've never seen jackie brown and I felt I.B was an average movie.

grindhouse / death note was also average.

 

[duba169]

Originally Posted by kix4kix

Originally Posted by DAYTONA 5000

I think Tarantino is a closet racist.

A Racist Italian? Never that

But duke ALWAYS finds a way to have a white dude say the N word in his films.

first of all everyone is a bit racist.

second of all when people say this i just find it kinda ridiculous. the characters that use the N word in his films, seem like they would if they were notfictional characters. It doesn't come out of the blue. I don't hear someone complaining when he makes comments about jews never tipping like inreservoir dogs. he doesn't have uma thurman in kill bill running around calling people dumb n words.

next I'm gona hear that scorsese in racist

 

[johnnyredstorm]

Originally Posted by DubA169

Originally Posted by kix4kix

Originally Posted by DAYTONA 5000

I think Tarantino is a closet racist.

A Racist Italian? Never that

But duke ALWAYS finds a way to have a white dude say the N word in his films.

first of all everyone is a bit racist.

second of all when people say this i just find it kinda ridiculous. the characters that use the N word in his films, seem like they would if they were not fictional characters. It doesn't come out of the blue. I don't hear someone complaining when he makes comments about jews never tipping like in reservoir dogs. he doesn't have uma thurman in kill bill running around calling people dumb n words.

next I'm gona hear that scorsese in racist

I agree with you for the most part, but there are times when the n word is used just for shock value. Dead n storage in Pulp Fiction is theperfect example.
And anybody that says Scorsese is a racist clearly does not understand its part of a characterization technique.

 

[damnitzvin]

loved IB

 

[duba169]

I guess you can call dead n storage shock value, but i just think it's comedic in a dark way. it's not like the guy who said it wasn't a seedyperson, it's not out of the realm of possibility that he was say that. The whole king kong story in basterds caught me way off guard.

i just don't think he's sitting at home, and throwing the n word in his movies for @$%*@ and giggles. i don't like the notion that if you havecharacters be racist in a movie, then the writer must be a bigot

 

[trasoul82]

Tarintino's fans annoy way more than he ever could. It seems like everyone who compliments his films consider themselves masters of cinematography andcharacter dialogue. He does his thing. Sometimes it's appreciated. Sometimes it's not. That is all.

 

[i live in texas]

Tarantino is mad overrated and bites peoples ideas. I like his movies, sure. But average moviegoers think he's amazing and can do no wrong.

If I had to pick my favorite from him, it would be definitely be Reservoir Dogs.

 

[38816]

Originally Posted by JohnnyRedStorm

Reservoir Dogs
Pulp Fiction
Kill Bill 1 & 2
Jackie Brown
True Romance (wrote, but not directed)
Natural Born Killers (supplied the story)
Inglourious Basterds

My pick is Basterds. Tarantino outdid himself with from a directorial standpoint. The shots and flow of the movie was phenomenal. The way he captured all of the little subtleties and character quirks (Brad Pitt's facial expressions in the theater when Landa first introduces himself, the German 3). As great as Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction are, they were a bit raw when it came to the flow of the movie, but here in Basterds it was constant motion, no down time.

He's definitely getting nominated for an Oscar, and should be in the lead for Original Screenplay and Best Director.

, BASTERDS?

FORREAL?

lol, no down time?

20 minutes of dialouge in french about european film directors of the 40s isn't down time?

imma go with Pulp Fiction, the lines are so classic in that movie.....

oh, so classic.

 

[Johnny_Cakes]

I thought Kill Bill was really, really well done. Probably his most refined work.

 

[38816]

JULES
Do you know who we are?

Brett shakes his head: "No."

JULES
We're associates of your business
partner Marsellus Wallace, you
remember your business partner
dont'ya?

No answer.

JULES
(to Brett)
Now I'm gonna take a wild guess
here: you're Brett, right?

BRETT
I'm Brett.

JULES
I thought so. Well, you remember
your business partner Marsellus
Wallace, dont'ya Brett?

BRETT
I remember him.

JULES
Good for you. Looks like me and
Vincent caught you at breakfast,
sorry 'bout that. What'cha eatin'?

BRETT
Hamburgers.

JULES
Hamburgers. The cornerstone of any
nutritious breakfast. What kind?

BRETT
Cheeseburgers.

JULES
No, I mean where did you get'em?
MacDonald's, Wendy's, Jack-in-the-
Box, where?

BRETT
Big Kahuna Burger.

JULES
Big Kahuna Burger. That's that
Hawaiian burger joint. I heard
they got some tasty burgers. I
ain't never had one myself, how are
they?

BRETT
They're good.

JULES
Mind if I try one of yours?

BRETT
No.

JULES
Yours is this one, right?

BRETT
Yeah.

Jules grabs the burger and take a bite of it.

JULES
Uuummmm, that's a tasty burger.
(to Vincent)
Vince, you ever try a Big Kahuna
Burger?

VINCENT
No.

Jules holds out the Big Kahuna.

JULES
You wanna bite, they're real good.

VINCENT
I ain't hungry.

JULES
Well, if you like hamburgers give
'em a try sometime. Me, I can't
usually eat 'em 'cause my
girlfriend's a vegetarian. Which
more or less makes me a vegetarian,
but I sure love the taste of a good
burger.
(to Brett)
You know what they call a Quarter
Pounder with Cheese in France?

BRETT
No.

JULES
Tell 'em, Vincent.

VINCENT
Royale with Cheese.

JULES
Royale with Cheese, you know why
they call it that?

BRETT
Because of the metric system?

JULES
Check out the big brain on Brett!
You'a smart +%$@+@!%@%!@, that's
right. The metric system.
(he points to a fast
food drink cup)
What's in this?

BRETT
Sprite.

JULES
Sprite, good, mind if I have some
of your tasty beverage to wash this
down with?

BRETT
Sure.

Jules grabs the cup and crushes the entire sprite.

JULES
Uuuuummmm, hit's the spot!
(to Roger)
You, Flock of Seagulls, you know
what we're here for?

Roger nods his head: "Yes."

JULES
Then why don't you tell my boy here
Vince, where you got the @+%@ hid.

MARVIN
It's under the be --

JULES
-- I don't remember askin' you a
goddamn thing!
(to Roger)
You were sayin'?

ROGER
It's under the bed.

Vincent moves to the bed, reaches underneath it, pulling out a
black snap briefcase.

VINCENT
Got it.

Vincent flips the two locks, opening the case. We can't see
what's inside, but a small glow emits from the case. Vincent
just stares at it, transfixed.

JULES
We happy?

No answer from the transfixed Vincent.

JULES
Vincent!

Vincent looks up at Jules.

JULES
We happy?

Closing the case.

VINCENT
We're happy.

BRETT
(to Jules)
Look, what's your name? I got his
name's Vincent, but what's yours?

JULES
My name's Pitt, and you ain't
talkin' your $## outta this @+%@.

BRETT
I just want you to know how sorry
we are about how %+#%%@ up things
got between us and Mr. Wallace.
When we entered into this thing, we
only had the best intentions --

As Brett talks, Jules takes out his gun and SHOOTS Roger three
times in the chest, BLOWING him out of his chair.

Vince smiles to himself. Jules has got style.

Brett has just @+%@ his pants. He's not crying or whimpering,
but he's so full of fear, it's as if his body is imploding.

JULES
(to Brett)
Oh, I'm sorry. Did that break your
concentration? I didn't mean to do
that. Please, continue. I believe
you were saying something about
"best intentions."

Brett can't say a word.

JULES
Whatsamatter? Oh, you were done.....?
Well, let me retort.

Would you describe for me what
Marsellus Wallace looks like?

Brett still can't speak.

Jules SNAPS, SAVAGELY TIPPING the card table over, removing
the only barrier between himself and Brett. Brett now sits in
a lone chair before Jules like a political prisoner in front
of an interrogator.

JULES
What country you from!

BRETT
(petrified)
What?

JULES
"What" ain't no country I know! Do
they speak English in "What?"

BRETT
(near heart attack)
What?

JULES
English-+%$@+@!%@%!@-can-you-speak-
it?

BRETT
Yes.

JULES
Then you understand what I'm
sayin'?

BRETT
Yes.

JULES
Now describe what Marsellus Wallace
looks like!

BRETT
(out of fear)
What?

Jules takes his .45 and PRESSES the barrel HARD in Brett's
cheek.

JULES
Say "What" again! C'mon, say
"What" again! I dare ya, I double
dare ya +%$@+@!%@%!@, say "What"
one more goddamn time!

Brett is regressing on the spot.

JULES
Now describe to me what Marsellus
Wallace looks like!

Brett does his best.

BRETT
Well he's ...he's...black --

JULES
-- go on!

BRETT
...and he's...he's...tall --

JULES
-- does he look like a ###%%?!

BRETT
(without thinking)
What?

Jules' eyes go to Vincent, Vincent smirks, Jules rolls his
eyes and SHOOT Brett in the shoulder.

Brett SCREAMS, breaking into a SHAKING/TREMBLING SPASM in the
chair.

JULES
Does-he-look-like-a-###%%?!

BRETT
(in agony)
No.

JULES
Then why did you try to *%!% 'im
like a ###%%?!

BRETT
(in spasm)
I didn't.

Now in a lower voice.

JULES
Yes ya did Brett. Ya tried ta *%!%
'im.





name/post a better scene in basterds, please, please....

that may be my favorite scene, all time....

 

[38816]

imma go ahead and OD


CAPT. KOONS
Hello, little man. Boy I sure
heard a bunch about you. See, I
was a good friend of your Daddy's.
We were in that Hanoi pit of hell
over five years together.
Hopefully, you'll never have to
experience this yourself, but when
two men are in a situation like me
and your Daddy were, for as long as
we were, you take on certain
responsibilities of the other. If
it had been me who had not made it,
Major Coolidge would be talkin'
right now to my son Jim. But the
way it worked out is I'm talkin' to
you, Butch. I got somethin' for
ya.

The Captain pulls a gold wrist watch out of his pocket.

CAPT. KOONS
This watch I got here was first
purchased by your great-granddaddy.
It was bought during the First
World War in a little general store
in Knoxville, Tennessee. It was
bought by private Doughboy Ernie
Coolidge the day he set sail for
Paris. It was your great-
granddaddy's war watch, made by the
first company to ever make wrist
watches. You see, up until then,
people just carried pocket watches.
Your great-granddaddy wore that
watch every day he was in the war.
Then when he had done his duty, he
went home to your great-
grandmother, took the watch off his
wrist and put it in an ol' coffee
can. And in that can it stayed
'til your grandfather Dane Coolidge
was called upon by his country to
go overseas and fight the Germans
once again. This time they called
it World War Two.
Your great-granddaddy gave it to
your granddad for good luck.
Unfortunately, Dane's luck wasn't
as good as his old man's. Your
granddad was a Marine and he was
killed with all the other Marines
at the battle of Wake Island. Your
granddad was facing death and he
knew it. None of those boys had
any illusions about ever leavin'
that island alive. So three days
before the Japanese took the
island, your 22-year old
grandfather asked a gunner on an
Air Force transport named Winocki,
a man he had never met before in
his life, to deliver to his infant
son, who he had never seen in the
flesh, his gold watch. Three days
later, your grandfather was dead.
But Winocki kept his word. After
the war was over, he paid a visit
to your grandmother, delivering to
your infant father, his Dad's gold
watch. This watch. This watch was
on your Daddy's wrist when he was
shot down over Hanoi. He was
captured and put in a Vietnamese
prison camp. Now he knew if the
****s ever saw the watch it's be
confiscated. The way your Daddy
looked at it, that watch was your
birthright. And he'd be damned if
and slopeheads were gonna put their
greasy yella hands on his boy's
birthright. So he hid it in the
one place he knew he could hide
somethin'-- His %%#. Five long
years, he wore this watch.......up his
%%#. Then, when he died of
disentary, he gave me the watch. I
hid with uncomfortable hunk of
metal up my %%# for two years.
Then, after seven years, I was sent
home to my family. And now, little
man, I give the watch to you.


come on, bro.......this movie is cash.

 

[burt reynoldz]

IB bored the hell out of me.

20 minutes of dialogue broken up with 30 seconds of super violence is not what entertains me.

 

[38816]

Originally Posted by Burt Reynoldz

IB bored the hell out of me.

20 minutes of dialogue broken up with 30 seconds of super violence is not what entertains me.

exactly.

i'd say about 30 percent of basterds was dope...

the rest was very boring and annoying.

and im a dialouge driven dude...

in the OG IB post, i broke it down deep...

QT is at his best when he interjects wild violence or morally corrupt situations with calm, almost pedestrian, dialouge.

it creates a wonderful tension......thats what EYE enjoy most about QT

when it's JUST one or the other, QT becomes very boring and almost......overconfident in his directing/writing...

like, take for example, the grindhouse part he directed...

that table diner scene lasted ENTIRELY too long...there wasn't any tension....just...broads....having girl talk...

then, you compare that to the scene in IB, where the nazi cat was in dude's house interrogating him, with quite common dialouge (for the time)

a scene that turns completely upside down once we discover the man is hiding jews under the floor, and they've been listening to the entireconversation....

that tension is when QT is at his best.

 

[proper english]

Originally Posted by TraSoul82

Tarintino's fans annoy way more than he ever could. It seems like everyone who compliments his films consider themselves masters of cinematography and character dialogue. He does his thing. Sometimes it's appreciated. Sometimes it's not. That is all.

seriously tho.. cliche: film student = die hard QT fanboy.

 

[twosickjays]

Originally Posted by proper english

Originally Posted by TraSoul82

Tarintino's fans annoy way more than he ever could. It seems like everyone who compliments his films consider themselves masters of cinematography and character dialogue. He does his thing. Sometimes it's appreciated. Sometimes it's not. That is all.

seriously tho.. cliche: film student = die hard QT fanboy.

haha its not even film students. It's people who think they are too good for film school who are die hard fans of him haha.

 

[meshies]

well... i JUST finished watching Inglorious Basterds... I havent looked through this thread thoroughly, but IB is def my favorite movie of 09. That **** had mehooked and completely engaged the whole time. The DETAILS is what makes Tarantino such a genius.

 

[bboy1827]

The dialogue in Inglorious Bastards isn't even the high point of the film. It was his portrayal of the Nazi's that was truly captivating. Never beforehad the Nazi's been seen in such an innocent light, the dude in the bar that just had a baby, the dude that just wanted to live and not get his brainsmashed in by Donnie. Also it showed the indifference of some of the soldiers, and the hedonism of the higher command. Plus in this movie it showed some bad ajews, opposed to the normal b(**** Jews that you get with most "WWII" films. And the fact that the film centered around another film, one that was toshow the ultimate glory of the third Reich but ultimately lead to its demise was a pretty cool addition. Plus an interracial french black/ Jew couple were theones that would have taken down the third Riech, plus the anger in Donnie's face as he blows away Hitler is priceless. Thats why I like the movie...sametime, not to be Cliche, but Pulp Fiction is probably one of the coolest movies ever made, can't say he made my favorite movies, but as a whole QuintinTarantino is probably my favorite director.