the thread about nothing...

[picasso swerve]

I’m not sure, but my interpretation is that her reasoning is issues every athlete has to go through every day from their job.

And that negates her mental health regarding it all? You dont know whats going on in her head, her personal problems, etc. Stuff like that can easily pile on someone on top of her competing. Forget her the athlete, it should be her as a person. Call her a quitter but clearly her mental health is more important to her.

 

[friscostylez]

"In a specific sense"

1. We will NEVER hear from a specialist on S. Biles' personal affairs.

2. She would know better than any random dudes posting on a shoe chatline.

But sitting up here trying to figure out how VALID her excuse is just seems wildly pointless.

Why are we doing this?

Folks did the same thing with Osaka.

Why? And it is deeper than just "having an opinion."

i haven't been following either situations & haven't read more than two comments on here about it.

i actually agree with everything you said but this also happens outside of sports & what I was thinking about when I wrote my post.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Me being the cynic I am, Naomi Osaka started something..

What exactly is that something?

I assume you mean athletes no longer just going along for the ride, being silent about how they are feeling?
Reminding the general public that they are human beings that simply possess a high level of skill in a certain activity?
Not being apologetic about not putting the team/sport first?

We are honestly long overdue when it comes to a lot of these things.

We will deny it but a lot of us would prefer our athletes , "Shutup and dribbled."

 

[picasso swerve]

And this is how you know mental health is still a long ways from being taken 100% serious.

 

[stopcappin]

Is there an issue with the term "colored" today?

Is it somehow less appropriate than something like "people of color"?

I'm colored btw

to me yeah. This not Jim Crow times , I don’t want to hear that. It’s too tied to segregation.

could be just me but naw I’m not rolling

 

[DCAllAfrican]

And this is how you know mental health is still a long ways from being taken 100% serious.

Yea because each and every time someone has an episode, folks feel the need to decide whether or not it is legit or not.

Just look at how we treated Kyrie. Dude said he needed time off and we said he should reconsider his PROFESSION. He should retire.

But people sit behind their screens and question physical injuries so of course they will question the mental side of things.

We need to do better.

 

[Blue Mamba]

I don’t mind going back to masks indoors too much, but it was dumb of the CDC to tell the vaccinated to stop wearing them completely. They should’ve never told them that.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

In 2000, I knew a dude from Romania that told his mother back home I was his first "colored" friend.

So I think it might be a language thing

But 2000 was a long time ago.

 

[s-blaze]

Yea because each and every time someone has an episode, folks feel the need to decide whether or not it is legit or not.

Just look at how we treated Kyrie. Dude said he needed time off and we said he should reconsider his PROFESSION. He should retire.

But people sit behind their screens and question physical injuries so of course they will question the mental side of things.

We need to do better.

Brother DC, I don't wanna inject words and meanings...

But I think what's being argued is if more athletes use this as an "excuse". It will be taken less serious as we go forward.

Again, I come in peace.

 

[thehealthinspector]

the cdc never told vaccinated people to stop wearing them

they told them to follow local guidelines, but that the science indicates that chances of serious complications (hospitalization) for the vaccinated in situations without masks were rare

 

[xxpizzo]

. wrong thread

 

[Remy LeBeau]

I think the problem is "Mental Health" is a blanket statement/umbrella that's used for so many things that when someone can't explain what they're dealing with, they state "Mental health" and people can't understand it. I'll never take away from what someone is going through so if that's what they are saying then so be it. I also understand folks who are confused (although it's none of their business).

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Brother DC, I don't wanna inject words and meanings...

But I think what's being argued is if more athletes use this as an "excuse". It will be taken less serious as we go forward.

Again, I come in peace.

Using it as an "excuse" is in fact questioning the legitimacy of their claim.

You aren't saying anything differently than what I said.

I think the problem is "Mental Health" is a blanket statement/umbrella that's used for so many things that when someone can't explain what they're dealing with, they state "Mental health" and people can't understand it. I'll never take away from what someone is going through so if that's what they are saying then so be it. I also understand folks who are confused (although it's none of their business).

Perfectly said.

But also keep in mind sometimes, folks DON'T know what is going on within to give a pinpoint/accurate assessment of how they are feeling.

 

[maq25060]

Yea because each and every time someone has an episode, folks feel the need to decide whether or not it is legit or not.

Just look at how we treated Kyrie. Dude said he needed time off and we said he should reconsider his PROFESSION. He should retire.

But people sit behind their screens and question physical injuries so of course they will question the mental side of things.

We need to do better.

Fam, if the pressures and responsibilities of his profession are ****ing with his mental, is it not fair to suggest he should consider changing professions?

 

[6 Rings G.O.A.T.]

 

[tr1ll]

What exactly is that something?

I assume you mean athletes no longer just going along for the ride, being silent about how they are feeling?
Reminding the general public that they are human beings that simply possess a high level of skill in a certain activity?
Not being apologetic about not putting the team/sport first?

We are honestly long overdue when it comes to a lot of these things.

We will deny it but a lot of us would prefer our athletes , "Shutup and dribbled."

Actually in Naomi’s case that exactly what SHE wants to do. Just play tennis and whatever she wants to do. Photo shoots are cool, but not talking to the media about the match. It’s just adding more pressure. Is pressure not the heart of competition?

While I know mental health issues are real, I also know people have the tendency to misuse things to their advantage. TLR: Not saying that’s the case with Biles, but folks are about to start to use “mental health issues” to get out of things because, as you guys pointed out, it can’t be questioned.

 

[friscostylez]

a lot of things affect mental health though such as physical health - eating ****ty, not sleeping, doing drugs, etc

but folks are about to start to use “mental health issues” to get out of things because, as you guys pointed out, it can’t be questioned.

that's the elephant in the room that nobody wants to directly address

 

[DCAllAfrican]

I think the problem is "Mental Health" is a blanket statement/umbrella that's used for so many things that when someone can't explain what they're dealing with, they state "Mental health" and people can't understand it. I'll never take away from what someone is going through so if that's what they are saying then so be it. I also understand folks who are confused (although it's none of their business).

Perfectly said.

Fam, if the pressures and responsibilities of his profession are ****ing with his mental, is it not fair to suggest he should consider changing professions?

Not sure why that extreme needs to be his next step/option.

As HE stated, he had good and bad days. Mostly good. So why does that warrant a change in profession.

I don't quite understand that level of reasoning.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

that's the elephant in the room that nobody wants to directly address

I mean everyone has been pointing right at that elephant and commenting on everything about it.

That has been discussed since this whole "mental health" culture shift has existed.

 

[friscostylez]

I think the problem is "Mental Health" is a blanket statement/umbrella that's used for so many things that when someone can't explain what they're dealing with, they state "Mental health" and people can't understand it. I'll never take away from what someone is going through so if that's what they are saying then so be it. I also understand folks who are confused (although it's none of their business).

well this can have consequences to you

your partner at work is "suffering" from mental health issues, which you have the feeling they aren't for whatever reason, & now you are working 50% more because of it. not a stretch of an example because i have heard similar encounters.

 

[friscostylez]

I mean everyone has been pointing right at that elephant and commenting on everything about it.

That has been discussed since this whole "mental health" culture shift has existed.

why don't you help me reconcile that? how do we migrate that risk? or do you think there's 0% chance of it happening?

 

[Remy LeBeau]

It could be argued that a bigger elephant in the room is how toxic the media is but nobody wants to address or do anything about that either. This can of worms didn't start with the athletes.

 

[Remy LeBeau]

well this can have consequences to you

your partner at work is "suffering" from mental health issues, which you have the feeling they aren't for whatever reason, & now you are working 50% more because of it. not a stretch of an example because i have heard similar encounters.

That still doesn't make it your business per se if you don't "know" that they are using mental health as an excuse. You're speculating and should be taking your issues with your work to your superiors.

 

[Grine]

 

[tr1ll]

From what I’m reading(this is speculation), it’s starting to look like, somehow, she got the idea she might blow it, and dipped out.

Where did “bullying” come from??