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Originally Posted by GTEK
This really makes me mad.
I know black leaders who have been saying the same thing for years and years...
But people only want to hear and give credit when a white guys says it???
But as long as the messages gets out. then cool.
Originally Posted by JuJu
Originally Posted by GTEK
This really makes me mad.
I know black leaders who have been saying the same thing for years and years...
But people only want to hear and give credit when a white guys says it???
But as long as the messages gets out. then cool.
its just a fact that someone of your own race talking about how you need to do better is gonna be more affective than someone from another race. its 10X more affective when a prominent black man says hey if you stop acting ignorant and believing that the only way out the hood if any is a wicked jump shot, rapping or selling crack rocks than a white guy telling black people they need to stop blaming the white man and do for themselves.
Originally Posted by JuJu
Originally Posted by GTEK
This really makes me mad.
I know black leaders who have been saying the same thing for years and years...
But people only want to hear and give credit when a white guys says it???
But as long as the messages gets out. then cool.
its just a fact that someone of your own race talking about how you need to do better is gonna be more affective than someone from another race. its 10X more affective when a prominent black man says hey if you stop acting ignorant and believing that the only way out the hood if any is a wicked jump shot, rapping or selling crack rocks than a white guy telling black people they need to stop blaming the white man and do for themselves.
qftOriginally Posted by JuJu
Originally Posted by GTEK
This really makes me mad.
I know black leaders who have been saying the same thing for years and years...
But people only want to hear and give credit when a white guys says it???
But as long as the messages gets out. then cool.
its just a fact that someone of your own race talking about how you need to do better is gonna be more affective than someone from another race. its 10X more affective when a prominent black man says hey if you stop acting ignorant and believing that the only way out the hood if any is a wicked jump shot, rapping or selling crack rocks than a white guy telling black people they need to stop blaming the white man and do for themselves.
The funny and ironic thing is dude actually mentions that at the beginning of his speech.Originally Posted by GTEK
This really makes me mad.
I know black leaders who have been saying the same thing for years and years...
But people only want to hear and give credit when a white guys says it???
But as long as the messages gets out. then cool.
oh trust me i know its not all the white mans fault. thats why i liked this guy so much because he didnt come off as some self hating white man. ihave plenty of white friends and i know for a fact that many white people are not racist or hateful just in denial like he says. but just like white peopleneed to wake up im always telling my black folks to stop blaming white people for everything, because a white guy may be able to deny you a job but no whiteguy ever made me sell crack or choose to skip school to play playstation. i just focused more on the white aspect cause of the video, but i def feel youeveryone needs to just take responsibility for themselves.Originally Posted by ninjallamafromhell
White privilege is a generalization, and so doesn't fit every single white person.
Also JuJu it's going to take both "sides" working together to fix the damage done, not just whites. I put sides in quotation marks because we're all human, there are no real sides.
Originally Posted by Joseph Camel Jr
another race thread?
anyway imo people over complicate race issues, stating the obvious in roundabout ways.
not gonna lie, i didn't watch the vid, but i'm guessing the point was- white people enjoy many advantages over their minority counterparts that they may not even realize?
if you dont know your history you are doomed to repeat it. he points out in the video that that very same thing still happens today. he useskatrina as an example. he talks about how ther 9th ward(mostly black) and another neighborhood no more than 500 yards away (95% white) both lost everything inthe floods. but when they came back instead of wondering why their elected officials (the majority of which lived in the rich areas of new orleans and lostvirtually nothing at all) and gov't didnt do a better job of reinforcing the levies the true source of all that destruction by using the millions ofdollars that were designated specifically for those levies as a unified group of poor people who lost everything . they put in place a ordinance that made itso that homes could not be sold/rented to people who were not blood related (which in a community of 95% white people means very very very few displaced blackpeople would be able to make that area their home now) so instead of question the real people at fault the gov't/elected officials/elite upper classcontroling things their first instinct was to yell foul about the black people who had no power and lost JUST as much as they did in the floods. dont you thinkthat is a lil silly?Originally Posted by Joseph Camel Jr
i guess from a historical perspective that's interesting and all, but i don't see why it matters how or why or where racism originated.
not trying to say it's meaningless, but how does that help?
Exactly.Originally Posted by JuJu
oh trust me i know its not all the white mans fault. thats why i liked this guy so much because he didnt come off as some self hating white man. i have plenty of white friends and i know for a fact that many white people are not racist or hateful just in denial like he says. but just like white people need to wake up im always telling my black folks to stop blaming white people for everything, because a white guy may be able to deny you a job but no white guy ever made me sell crack or choose to skip school to play playstation. i just focused more on the white aspect cause of the video, but i def feel you everyone needs to just take responsibility for themselves.Originally Posted by ninjallamafromhell
White privilege is a generalization, and so doesn't fit every single white person.
Also JuJu it's going to take both "sides" working together to fix the damage done, not just whites. I put sides in quotation marks because we're all human, there are no real sides.
JuJu wrote:
oh trust me i know its not all the white mans fault. thats why i liked this guy so much because he didnt come off as some self hating white man. i have plenty of white friends and i know for a fact that many white people are not racist or hateful just in denial like he says. but just like white people need to wake up im always telling my black folks to stop blaming white people for everything, because a white guy may be able to deny you a job but no white guy ever made me sell crack or choose to skip school to play playstation. i just focused more on the white aspect cause of the video, but i def feel you everyone needs to just take responsibility for themselves.Originally Posted by ninjallamafromhell
White privilege is a generalization, and so doesn't fit every single white person.
Also JuJu it's going to take both "sides" working together to fix the damage done, not just whites. I put sides in quotation marks because we're all human, there are no real sides.
None of this is directed at you.
My conversation to everything racial where someone who is white makes a blanket statement to other races. Such as welfare abuse, affirmative action injustices,your above statement, and the like is look around and take your cloudy glasses off (NOT YOU) and just look around. For every welfare abuser who is black orHispanic I can find you a white person gaming the system. For every black person you call lazy I can find you a white person, For every "affirmativeaction hire/appointee" I can show you a white person in that same position who doesn't deserve it. For every black drug dealer I can find a white drugdealer. For every black kid skipping school for stupid things, go to a white suburban school and you will witness the same thing. The first step to curingracial tensions in this country is for every race to stop and take a look around and see how much each race contributes to this country. And each of the illsof 1 race can be found in an equal proportion in another race including your own. So stop making blanket statements of others regardless but especially if youare unwilling to acknowledge that your own race doesn't have the same problem.
Originally Posted by Essential1
JuJu wrote:
oh trust me i know its not all the white mans fault. thats why i liked this guy so much because he didnt come off as some self hating white man. i have plenty of white friends and i know for a fact that many white people are not racist or hateful just in denial like he says. but just like white people need to wake up im always telling my black folks to stop blaming white people for everything, because a white guy may be able to deny you a job but no white guy ever made me sell crack or choose to skip school to play playstation. i just focused more on the white aspect cause of the video, but i def feel you everyone needs to just take responsibility for themselves.Originally Posted by ninjallamafromhell
White privilege is a generalization, and so doesn't fit every single white person.
Also JuJu it's going to take both "sides" working together to fix the damage done, not just whites. I put sides in quotation marks because we're all human, there are no real sides.
i like the essence of what youre trying to sayOriginally Posted by Joseph Camel Jr
Originally Posted by Essential1
JuJu wrote:
oh trust me i know its not all the white mans fault. thats why i liked this guy so much because he didnt come off as some self hating white man. i have plenty of white friends and i know for a fact that many white people are not racist or hateful just in denial like he says. but just like white people need to wake up im always telling my black folks to stop blaming white people for everything, because a white guy may be able to deny you a job but no white guy ever made me sell crack or choose to skip school to play playstation. i just focused more on the white aspect cause of the video, but i def feel you everyone needs to just take responsibility for themselves.Originally Posted by ninjallamafromhell
White privilege is a generalization, and so doesn't fit every single white person.
Also JuJu it's going to take both "sides" working together to fix the damage done, not just whites. I put sides in quotation marks because we're all human, there are no real sides.
None of this is directed at you.
My conversation to everything racial where someone who is white makes a blanket statement to other races. Such as welfare abuse, affirmative action injustices, your above statement, and the like is look around and take your cloudy glasses off (NOT YOU) and just look around. For every welfare abuser who is black or Hispanic I can find you a white person gaming the system. For every black person you call lazy I can find you a white person, For every "affirmative action hire/appointee" I can show you a white person in that same position who doesn't deserve it. For every black drug dealer I can find a white drug dealer. For every black kid skipping school for stupid things, go to a white suburban school and you will witness the same thing. The first step to curing racial tensions in this country is for every race to stop and take a look around and see how much each race contributes to this country. And each of the ills of 1 race can be found in an equal proportion in another race including your own. So stop making blanket statements of others regardless but especially if you are unwilling to acknowledge that your own race doesn't have the same problem.