For the Wine and Champagne Connnoisseurs

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I'm hosting a Christmas Party dinner for some of my friends on Thursday evening and I'm looking for a quality and great tasting bottle of champagne to bring. I was wondering if my wine and champagne connoisseurs out there had any suggestions...
 
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i dont really mess with rose, but a yellow label bottle of veuve is a solid go to for an acceptable "fancy" dinner party bottle to bring. they typically run about $40-60 depending on if you can get them on sale.
 
Stay far away from Veuve and Moet. Unless you are buying their "prestige cuvées" - La Grande Dame and Dom Perignon - you are better off buying sparkling wine from Cali then those two brands.

If you're looking for a great non-vintage, easy to find Champagne go for a bottle of Bollinger or Charles Heidsieck. If you want the best "bang for you buck" and are close to a good wine shop, go for Grower Champagne.
 
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I appreciate everyone's feedback

Grizzly Hebert said:
Price range?
How many people?
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Looking not to pay more than 150. With that said I'm not trying to spend big money just for a fancy name, I'd rather pay for a quality and great taste rather than a fancy name. Probably going to be about 8 to 10 people.
 
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Madman4life said:
I appreciate everyone's feedback

Grizzly Hebert said:
Price range?
How many people?
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Looking not to pay more than 150. With that said I'm not trying to spend big money just for a fancy name, I'd rather pay for a quality and great taste rather than a fancy name. Probably going to be about 8 to 10 people.
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EASY choice. Hands down the 2002 Bollinger La Grande Annee (Around $99). If you can't find it, as a backup I would say the Krug Grande Cuvee which could be found for around $130.
 
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SDS45 said:
Stay far away from Veuve and Moet. Unless you are buying their "prestige cuvées" - La Grande Dame and Dom Perignon - you are better off buying sparkling wine from Cali then those two brands.
If you're looking for a great non-vintage, easy to find Champagne go for a bottle of Bollinger or Charles Heidsieck. If you want the best "bang for you buck" and are close to a good wine shop, go for Grower Champagne.
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You're going to say this and then not explain why? :lol:

I've never heard ANYONE, even wine snobs, saying to stay away from Moet.
 
finnns2003 said:
SDS45 said:
Stay far away from Veuve and Moet. Unless you are buying their "prestige cuvées" - La Grande Dame and Dom Perignon - you are better off buying sparkling wine from Cali then those two brands.
If you're looking for a great non-vintage, easy to find Champagne go for a bottle of Bollinger or Charles Heidsieck. If you want the best "bang for you buck" and are close to a good wine shop, go for Grower Champagne.
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You're going to say this and then not explain why? :lol:

I've never heard ANYONE, even wine snobs, saying to stay away from Moet.
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Dont get me wrong I'm not say Moet is absolutely horrible, I'm a fan of Dom and have a few in the cellar, but vastly superior bottles exist in the same price range of entry level Moet.

Most entry level NV Champagne from the Big Houses - Veuve, Moet, Roderer, etc... - have a HORRIBLE quality to price ratio. They are easy enough to sell by their name recognition alone so producing a quality product is irrelevant. Most are over sweetened to appease the general pops palate and lack any sort of complexity or aging potential. They are overworked, overproduced and their best fruit is reserved for their Prestige Cuvees.

Wine drinkers typically have a preference and stay within the regions they are comfortable with. If the "wine snobs" you've come across don't know this about Moet, they might not be too familiar with the Champagne region, which isn't that uncommon, some "wine snobs" just don't favor Champagne and stick to reds.
 
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SDS45 said:
Dont get me wrong I'm not say Moet is absolutely horrible, I'm a fan of Dom and have a few in the cellar, but vastly superior bottles exist in the same price range of entry level Moet.
Most entry level NV Champagne from the Big Houses - Veuve, Moet, Roderer, etc... - have a HORRIBLE quality to price ratio. They are easy enough to sell by their name recognition alone so producing a quality product is irrelevant. Most are over sweetened to appease the general pops palate and lack any sort of complexity or aging potential. They are overworked, overproduced and their best fruit is reserved for their Prestige Cuvees.
Wine drinkers typically have a preference and stay within the regions they are confortable with. If the "wine snobs" you've come across don't know this about Moet, they might not be too familiar with the Champagne region, which isn't that uncommon, some "wine snobs" just don't favor Champagne and stick to reds.
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Thanks for the explanation. Yeah actually, most wine snobs I know are red shills. :lol:

So besides the giants like Dom, Cristal, etc. what are some good champagnes for special occassions or worth keeping stocked?
 
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This is a good choice on dessert wine. It's a Port, so it is very sweet and really wouldn't go well with the main courses, but is a good compliment to chocolates and pastries at the end of the night. Plus it's 19% alcohol.
 
SDS45 said:
finnns2003 said:
SDS45 said:
Stay far away from Veuve and Moet. Unless you are buying their "prestige cuvées" - La Grande Dame and Dom Perignon - you are better off buying sparkling wine from Cali then those two brands.
If you're looking for a great non-vintage, easy to find Champagne go for a bottle of Bollinger or Charles Heidsieck. If you want the best "bang for you buck" and are close to a good wine shop, go for Grower Champagne.
Click to expand...

You're going to say this and then not explain why? :lol:

I've never heard ANYONE, even wine snobs, saying to stay away from Moet.
Click to expand...

Dont get me wrong I'm not say Moet is absolutely horrible, I'm a fan of Dom and have a few in the cellar, but vastly superior bottles exist in the same price range of entry level Moet.

Most entry level NV Champagne from the Big Houses - Veuve, Moet, Roderer, etc... - have a HORRIBLE quality to price ratio. They are easy enough to sell by their name recognition alone so producing a quality product is irrelevant. Most are over sweetened to appease the general pops palate and lack any sort of complexity or aging potential. They are overworked, overproduced and their best fruit is reserved for their Prestige Cuvees.

Wine drinkers typically have a preference and stay within the regions they are confortable with. If the "wine snobs" you've come across don't know this about Moet, they might not be too familiar with the Champagne region, which isn't that uncommon, some "wine snobs" just don't favor Champagne and stick to reds.
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appreciate the lesson.

i dont really drink champagne much, but i guess champagne is not much different than any other type of booze. the big distillers/winerys/brewerys can get away on name recognition most of the time.
 
I appreciate all the info in this thread as well....I just turned 30 and def have been enjoying wine and champagne a lot more the past couple of years. I can't do all that liquor drinking anymore. Someone with some knowledge should start up an official Wine/Champagne appreciation thread a la the Cigar and Beer ones.
 
I've been hearing that Cliquot isn't the greatest, I thoroughly enjoy it though. But I will be paying attention to this thread to start copping some aged champagne. Don't judge me but I actually enjoy Andre as well
 
from my experience, Moet white star or imperial as it may be called now is the way to go

-it is almost always on sale during the holidays

-it is not 'dry' - i think dry champ is more for the connoisseur, this stuff has flavor more for everyone
 
green rhino123 said:
from my experience, Moet white star or imperial as it may be called now is the way to go
-it is almost always on sale during the holidays
-it is not 'dry' - i think dry champ is more for the connoisseur, this stuff has flavor more for everyone
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You talking about Moet Imperial Nectar?
 
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it used to be called Moet White Star...but i though they changed the name, maybe they didn't

it's the Moet that goes for $25-$45 a bottle, but can usually be found around they holidays on sale for around $30 a bottle...


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i always liked this stuff over anything else (that costs less than $100 a bottle)
 
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