Thread about Jesus - Questions, Bible Verses and Prayer Requests

[blastercombo]

Again, the idea that God is complete power and perfection ends your theory. God knows ALL can do ALL and is everywhere ALL the time. There's no need to take his time, it should ALL be known and should ALL be done.

To simplify it, God should of already known that he was going to do what he was going to do because he's ALL knowing. Here's where the paradox comes in, God should of known before he should of known what he was going to do. That repeats on and on infinity. In essence, everything should of ALREADY happened because God shiuld of already made it so.

 

[C.Magneto]

Explain please.

The Gita book I recommended earlier is a good place to start,

In short the material word is an illusion/temporary/inferior what ever you wanna call it.

All of us made a conscious decision to come down here whether we remember it or not.

God is infinite and inconceivable in it's totality. Therefore through the mind we bring limits to try and understand parts of God, This thought matrix were trapped in being one of many. Through enough conditioning the mind comes to believe that this is all there is.

When you take the bible for face value most of it doesn't make sense. For example you ask why would God make the world in 6 days and rest on the 7th.

Notice how the number 6 constantly appears in the bible.

With most of the stuff on earth being carbon based and carbons atomic number being 6, it explains why that's a precedent number. Same with 12, 7,40, 4, 10, 5, 3, 7 etc

I've digressed, to put it into laments terms: a lot of times in calculus when working with graphs, you need limits to work with in to find certain information. Prior to establishing the limits you could produce an equation that would give you anything the mind could conjure.

Our a problem is that we've forgetten the limits we've placed on ourself within the human body.

So christians may misuse it but they are right when they say:

◄ 1 Corinthians 2:14 ►

But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

 

[phuzzy badpheet]

You won't get an answer bro

The answer to that is too finite and exact that a "mysterious" answer wouldn't cut it

lol

I have another question, and it is about the Ten Commandments.

Why didn't God condemn slavery?

 

[C.Magneto]

lol

I have another question, and it is about the Ten Commandments.

Why didn't God condemn slavery?

I'm gonna actually defend OP and a lot of the believers in here for a sec. Questions like these are pointless. If these are things you wanna know research them yourself.

Furthermore, if you have a problem with the stuff God "has done" what are you or your God doing to fix it on a daily basis?
If you don't care and your life is kosher there's no point in coming in threads like this.

And that's not a personal diss or intended for anyone specifically. I say it because even though christians don't have it altogether, no one does. Most people will try and put you on a materialistic life as the alternative, when their system and way of doing things is just as inherently flawed as anyone else's.

 

[bradnsu]

Our a problem is that we've forgetten the limits we've placed on ourself within the human body.

So christians may misuse it but they are right when they say:

◄ 1 Corinthians 2:14 ►

But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

THIS

In this day in age mankind has gotten too big for our own good...Mankind is trying to play GOD & we want all the answers but certain things in this life cannot be explained, thats the problem with science it removed GOD as the element because it tries to solve everything & tries to create a solution to everything....Then we ask silly questions to each other "WELL WHY CAN''T STOP THIS OR WHY DOES GOD LET THIS HAPPEN??" no one can tell you because we are human just like you....

 

[phuzzy badpheet]

I'm gonna actually defend OP and a lot of the believers in here for a sec. Questions like these are pointless. If these are things you wanna know research them yourself.

Furthermore, if you have a problem with the stuff God "has done" what are you or your God doing to fix it on a daily basis?
If you don't care and your life is kosher there's no point in coming in threads like this.

And that's not a personal diss or intended for anyone specifically. I say it because even though christians don't have it altogether, no one does. Most people will try and put you on a materialistic life as the alternative, when their system and way of doing things is just as inherently flawed as anyone else's.

Defend if you wish, and the research has already been done.

However, the fact remains that God has never, ever, written anything down for anyone to read, and much of the scripture that many point to as the word of God, regardless of the type of religion/beliefs, has never been co signed by any so called supreme being.

There is a great joke about God needing better representatives, because the people that are spreading God's so called word, aren't necessarily the best of the lot.

Why is it that the poorest people on the planet are often the most religious and superstitious?

Why is it that the most street wise people, are also the most powerful and wealthy?

I don't mean those street wise people who reside in the 'hood either.

I am talking about those who really, and truly create game.

Also, allow me to add this. 

I will not try and run anyone away from their faith, as it is said, if it makes you a better and more successful person, then so be it.

However, I want to know that God that Bill Gates has behind him.

 

[C.Magneto]

But what are you really saying with your post brother?

If you don't believe no one supreme wrote them, then who did? Someone wrote the bible. The stories came from somewhere, add something productive to the conversation. "Hey moses didn't write the tablets and here's where they really come from"

And all your subsequent statements go back to what I said most people in your position will do. Using materialism as social dogma to condemn those who are the have nots. In no way shape or form does your bank account make you better then the next man. Cause guess what, as rich as steve jobs was, he still died like all of us will one day.

I could easily say those people you know with money are systematically oppressing the people that you're implying are of lesser importance because their spiritual beliefs.

So when you ask who bill gates God is look on the back of the dollar. Research fractional reserve banking.

Just to put this in perspective, when science finally rolls around and undeniably proves that were living in a holographic reality, which it's well on its way to.....

What are you gonna have to say about your life when you look back and realize you spent most of it chasing a hologram. You have no knowledge of self and how you came to be besides what society has told you to be, and that society was constructed on the premise of hoarding that material hologram.

Food for thought.

 

[retro23j]

 
At any rate, the bible is layered book that you can find a lot of wisdom and truth in, but i suggest rooting yourself in knowledge and truth. Don't take anything it says literally cause 99.9 % of it never happened.

Before I continue, is this what you really believe?

 

[C.Magneto]

 
Before I continue, is this what you really believe?

What i know as fact. 

 

[phuzzy badpheet]

But what are you really saying with your post brother?

If you don't believe no one supreme wrote them, then who did? Someone wrote the bible. The stories came from somewhere, add something productive to the conversation. "Hey moses didn't write the tablets and here's where they really come from"

And all your subsequent statements go back to what I said most people in your position will do. Using materialism as social dogma to condemn those who are the have nots. In no way shape or form does your bank account make you better then the next man. Cause guess what, as rich as steve jobs was, he still died like all of us will one day.

I could easily say those people you know with money are systematically oppressing the people that you're implying are of lesser importance because their spiritual beliefs.

So when you ask who bill gates God is look on the back of the dollar. Research fractional reserve banking.

Just to put this in perspective, when science finally rolls around and undeniably proves that were living in a holographic reality, which it's well on its way to.....

What are you gonna have to say about your life when you look back and realize you spent most of it chasing a hologram. You have no knowledge of self and how you came to be besides what society has told you to be, and that society was constructed on the premise of hoarding that material hologram.

Food for thought.

LMAO!!!!!! That was funny!

The part I dig most is when you said,  What are you gonna have to say about your life when you look back and realize you spent most of it chasing a hologram. You have no knowledge of self and how you came to be besides what society has told you to be, and that society was constructed on the premise of hoarding that material hologram.

I think that it is pretty clear that this method, attempting to create doubt in the non believer, is quite transparent. It only works on people who have doubt, those lacking confidence in what they are doing with their lives. This is why it works so well on the oppressed . . . that is until those who are oppressed become enlightened, most likely due to reading, learning, gaining knowledge themselves, questioning why others are doing so well, living so much better than they are as believers. The Haiti slave revolts come to mind here. The Africans there reversed the belief system, and then kicked butt.

So the first thing that is done to those who begin to question why others are doing so well, is to suggest that what those people are doing, is a false reality, endorsing the pie in the sky theory.

Be a good person, and get yours later.

It's a magnificent ploy, often applied by an oppressor. It has worked exceptionally well, especially wherever modern White supremacy reigns supreme.

So my question still stands.

In the Ten Commandments, why did God not condemn Slavery?

He supposedly said to not covey anyone's Wife, meaning property it seems.

Was he still angry with Lillith or something? 

 

[retro23j]

Quote:

 
What i know as fact. 

OK, all good. Not something that'll stop me from replying or w/e but it sticks out.

 

[retro23j]

 
Defend if you wish, and the research has already been done.

However, the fact remains that God has never, ever, written anything down for anyone to read, and much of the scripture that many point to as the word of God, regardless of the type of religion/beliefs, has never been co signed by any so called supreme being.

As far as something being physically written on something for man to read, the first "copy" of the ten commandments were written in stone by God's hand Himself.

These days He writes on the mind, as said in Hebrews 10:16

 
So my question still stands.

In the Ten Commandments, why did God not condemn Slavery?

He supposedly said to not covey anyone's Wife, meaning property it seems.

Was he still angry with Lillith or something? 

Why do you think it should have been condemned?

 

[htg designs]

If God is all powerful why did it take him 7 days to make everything? Shouldn't he have been able to do it instantly? Why did he need to rest the last day? Wouldn't all this allude to God not being all powerful?

He didn't rest as in he was tired or fatigued. He created 6 days and then he stopped creating on the 7th day.
It is the model for us to follow.

Exodus 20:8-11

8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

 

[C.Magneto]

 
LMAO!!!!!! That was funny!

The part I dig most is when you said,  What are you gonna have to say about your life when you look back and realize you spent most of it chasing a hologram. You have no knowledge of self and how you came to be besides what society has told you to be, and that society was constructed on the premise of hoarding that material hologram.

I think that it is pretty clear that this method, attempting to create doubt in the non believer, is quite transparent. It only works on people who have doubt, those lacking confidence in what they are doing with their lives. This is why it works so well on the oppressed . . . that is until those who are oppressed become enlightened, most likely due to reading, learning, gaining knowledge themselves, questioning why others are doing so well, living so much better than they are as believers. The Haiti slave revolts come to mind here. The Africans there reversed the belief system, and then kicked butt.

So the first thing that is done to those who begin to question why others are doing so well, is to suggest that what those people are doing, is a false reality, endorsing the pie in the sky theory.

Be a good person, and get yours later.

It's a magnificent ploy, often applied by an oppressor. It has worked exceptionally well, especially wherever modern White supremacy reigns supreme.

So my question still stands.

In the Ten Commandments, why did God not condemn Slavery?

He supposedly said to not covey anyone's Wife, meaning property it seems.

Was he still angry with Lillith or something? 

So you have to nothing to contribute to the thread ? got it.

But i'll play your game. You talk about the white supremacy system, yet you're presumably a player in their game of economics. They built a country on the backs of slaves for free and still practice oppression today in covert ways to ensure no black advancement occurs, yet you think you have a chance at winning their game? makes sense. See Blackwall street and many other examples for reference.

You say what I'm suggesting is a false reality, yet most of science is leaning toward this reality being holographic. Science and Religion have been enemies for ages, so what does science stand to gain from promoting a mindset that promotes spirituality and religion?

You tried to use african people as an example of enlightment within the material confines, yet they're the most spiritual people on the planet. Plus, when you really get into their beliefs it all points to this world being a material prison and them counting on the ancestors to raise them up from this "hell"

So my question still stands, what's the point of asking questions like that when you haven't even mastered the material reality youre in and having nothing to contribute of production to this thread?

 

[retro23j]

He didn't rest as in he was tired or fatigued. He created 6 days and then he stopped creating on the 7th day.
It is the model for us to follow.

Exodus 20:8-11

8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

This. He always sets the example.

 

[mrrolex]

 
When was the last time God wrote something down?

last page on the bible 

but i think it was random house who actually wrote it

 

[C.Magneto]

 
Quote:

OK, all good. Not something that'll stop me from replying or w/e but it sticks out.

Outside of your faith, what do you use as tangible evidence to support your beliefs?

 

[phuzzy badpheet]

 
As far as something being physically written on something for man to read, the first "copy" of the ten commandments were written in stone by God's hand Himself.

These days He writes on the mind, as said in Hebrews 10:16

Why do you think it should have been condemned?

So if it were written in God's hand himself, why did he need Moses to carry it down from the mountain? Why could he not write it down in a place where everyone could see it, and then interpret it for themselves? I am certain that God could have made a pretty good case for his/herself, correct?

To address your question on slavery, if God was so concerned about humanity, would God not be concerned about how we treat one another?

I mean, wasn't that the purpose of those same Commandments? Laws to live by?

 

[retro23j]

 
Outside of your faith, what do you use as tangible evidence to support your beliefs?

What do you consider tangible?

 

[C.Magneto]

 
What do you consider tangible?

I guess something undeniable, physical proof that stands on it's own outside of the bible. For example the tablet of the 10 commandments, or jesus's crucifixtion cross, the sword of destiny, ark of the covenant etc

 

[SC kid]

God has more to worry about than humans.

The universe is vast.

Worry about yoself....yall thinkin too hard.

 

[bradnsu]

So if it were written in God's hand himself, why did he need Moses to carry it down from the mountain? Why could he not write it down in a place where everyone could see it, and then interpret it for themselves? I am certain that God could have made a pretty good case for his/herself, correct?

To address your question on slavery, if God was so concerned about humanity, would God not be concerned about how we treat one another?

I mean, wasn't that the purpose of those same Commandments? Laws to live by?

Your asking pointless questions man...

 

[phuzzy badpheet]

 
So you have to nothing to contribute to the thread ? got it.

But i'll play your game. You talk about the white supremacy system, yet you're presumably a player in their game of economics. They built a country on the backs of slaves for free and still practice oppression today in covert ways to ensure no black advancement occurs, yet you think you have a chance at winning their game? makes sense. See Blackwall street and many other examples for reference.

You say what I'm suggesting is a false reality, yet most of science is leaning toward this reality being holographic. Science and Religion have been enemies for ages, so what does science stand to gain from promoting a mindset that promotes spirituality and religion?

You tried to use african people as an example of enlightment within the material confines, yet they're the most spiritual people on the planet. Plus, when you really get into their beliefs it all points to this world being a material prison and them counting on the ancestors to raise them up from this "hell"

So my question still stands, what's the point of asking questions like that when you haven't even mastered the material reality youre in and having nothing to contribute of production to this thread?

I am on the thread asking questions, which is what the title of this thread suggests that you do if you do indeed HAVE a question on Jesus and prayer.

Correct?

That said, I am winning at their game. It is pretty clear as to how to play it. Only those who keep their heads in the proverbial sand get left behind.

What do you suggest, that Black people get on their knees and pray, and then wait for Jesus or some other religious icon to return?

Or would you suggest that Black people get their act together, find commonality, agree that black people need each other to survive, VOTE, then get the people we need in office to support our goals?

Doing for self does not include waiting for others, supreme beings or otherwise.

However, those who tell us that we should wait, always get ahead.

 

 

 

[retro23j]

 
So if it were written in God's hand himself, why did he need Moses to carry it down from the mountain? Why could he not write it down in a place where everyone could see it, and then interpret it for themselves? I am certain that God could have made a pretty good case for his/herself, correct?

To address your question on slavery, if God was so concerned about humanity, would God not be concerned about how we treat one another?

I mean, wasn't that the purpose of those same Commandments? Laws to live by?

The children of Israel asked the same thing so God had them consecrate themselves. When He spoke to them, they couldn't take it. It sounded like a trumpet in their ears and they asked Moses to keep being their advocate/mediator/middle man.

When He did write something in a place where everyone could see it, they couldn't interpret it and were frightened. Whenever you come into direct contact with Him, you become more aware of how undone you are in comparison to Him. That's why with every time someone came into contact with God or an angel, a "fear not" or something similar followed because of the reaction.

The terms of slavery then were much different to how it's actually done/viewed today. It wasn't a negative thing.

 

[htg designs]

I am on the thread asking questions, which is what the title of this thread suggests that you do if you do indeed HAVE a question on Jesus and prayer.

Correct?

That said, I am winning at their game. It is pretty clear as to how to play it. Only those who keep their heads in the proverbial sand get left behind.

What do you suggest, that Black people get on their knees and pray, and then wait for Jesus or some other religious icon to return?

Or would you suggest that Black people get their act together, find commonality, agree that black people need each other to survive, VOTE, then get the people we need in office to support our goals?

Doing for self does not include waiting for others, supreme beings or otherwise.

However, those who tell us that we should wait, always get ahead.



 

 

How old are you? srs