*** THIS IS WHY TIMBALAND IS GOD OF BEATS.. ***

Originally Posted by mossman75

Originally Posted by illphillip

If you're going to argue this, and completely ignore how Tim crushed the game when he came through on that first Ginuwine album and all the Aaliyah %%*$, that's cool.....

But your argument has no credibility if you're talking about Heatmakerz, Mannie Fresh, Quik, and Havoc. These are good producers, but they do not belong in this conversation. They are nowhere near elite.

So once again, I'll say that y'all need to chill with a King of anything, and a greatest of all time for anything.

Tim is sick with it. He is on that elite level only seen by Dre, Premo, Neptunes, Dre etc. Appreciate them all. The arguments will go nowhere.

Your crazy if you don't think DJ Quik doesn't belong up there, he's been doing it since 1991. That dude is a musician, go back and check his albums and tell me dude doesn't have heat.

The thing with Timbaland is he can't hold down a album, name me a entire album he produced that was a classic

man *****...dj quik aint been mentioned since the 90s... last time i remember hearing his name was when he produced that cut off space age 4eva for balland g... dre is the only leftcoast producer who even matters...
 
Originally Posted by ZSong

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Like illphillip said,
when it comes to a certain class such as Timbo, Dre, Premo, and The Neptunes it gets to be just about personal preference
so amongst those 4 if you say one is better/above, it's not by much
and not by enough to even bother mentioning it

if you say one is below, it's not by much and again, not enough to really count


but to touch on an obscure point that somebody brought up in this thread,
Timbaland did ghost-production for Devante during that third Jodeci album time frame


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Co-sign
 
Originally Posted by TW3EK

man *****...dj quik aint been mentioned since the 90s... last time i remember hearing his name was when he produced that cut off space age 4eva for ball and g... dre is the only leftcoast producer who even matters...


i'm not co-signing quik (havent listened to him in years) but you cant forget about ALC or even dat ninja daz's work in the past. neither are GPOATworthy, but they are worth mentioning
 
Originally Posted by WE GET MONEY

The slobbing of Timbaland on this board is outrageous at times

Better than Premo? Dr. Dre? Get real
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Originally Posted by Addict4Sneakers

Originally Posted by TW3EK

man *****...dj quik aint been mentioned since the 90s... last time i remember hearing his name was when he produced that cut off space age 4eva for ball and g... dre is the only leftcoast producer who even matters...

i'm not co-signing quik (havent listened to him in years) but you cant forget about ALC or even dat ninja daz's work in the past. neither are GPOAT worthy, but they are worth mentioning


daz aint did enough even tho i like some of his $%+@... and alc is too underground... plus alc's style is STR8 east coast...
 
Originally Posted by TW3EK

Originally Posted by mossman75

Originally Posted by illphillip

If you're going to argue this, and completely ignore how Tim crushed the game when he came through on that first Ginuwine album and all the Aaliyah %%*$, that's cool.....

But your argument has no credibility if you're talking about Heatmakerz, Mannie Fresh, Quik, and Havoc. These are good producers, but they do not belong in this conversation. They are nowhere near elite.

So once again, I'll say that y'all need to chill with a King of anything, and a greatest of all time for anything.

Tim is sick with it. He is on that elite level only seen by Dre, Premo, Neptunes, Dre etc. Appreciate them all. The arguments will go nowhere.

Your crazy if you don't think DJ Quik doesn't belong up there, he's been doing it since 1991. That dude is a musician, go back and check his albums and tell me dude doesn't have heat.

The thing with Timbaland is he can't hold down a album, name me a entire album he produced that was a classic

man *****...dj quik aint been mentioned since the 90s... last time i remember hearing his name was when he produced that cut off space age 4eva for ball and g... dre is the only leftcoast producer who even matters...

DJ Quik been mentioned since the 90's huh.....
2Pac ("Heartzof Men", "Late Night"), Janet Jackson ("All For You(Remix)"), Snoop Dogg ("Doin' Too Much", "Don'tTell", "Buss'n Rocks"), Talib Kweli ("Put It In TheAir"), Whitney Houston ("Fine"), Adina Howard "((Freak) And U Know It)", Kurupt ("Can't Go Wrong"), E-40 ("Quarterbackin' [DJ Quik remix]"), Jay-Z ("Justify MyThug"), Xzibit ("Sorry I'm Away So Much"), Ludacris ("Spur of the Moment"), Chingy ("Bagg Up"), Erick Sermon ("Focus"),Roscoe ("Get Flipped"), Dr. Dre, 2nd II None,Hi-C, Suga Free, 8 Ball & MJG ("Buck Bounce", "Jankie"), Eazy-E, Twiztid ("Hurt Someone"), Yung Joc ("Cut Throat
 
none of those beats are dope... nobody talks about those songs... thats what i mean... his beats are nothing special at all...
 
Originally Posted by TW3EK

none of those beats are dope... nobody talks about those songs... thats what i mean... his beats are nothing special at all...

Your crazy

Its plain & simple you never probably heard those beats. Stop being a sheep to the radio
 
what are u talkin about?!

dont b mad cuz u like westcoast bull +#%@... timbo > quik... end of discussion

buck bounce WAS a single... and jankie was dope... but the rest of them beats are pretty *!%!%$ WEAK... ive heard the kweli joint, the joc joint, the drejoints, the e-40 joint... dude is WEAK... nuff said... his beats aint dope no more man face it... west coast fell off...including dj quik...
 
Ginuwine...The bachelor was made in 96' and It STILL doesn't sound outdated imo. Thats how much ahead of his time timbo was/is. That is why he is theking.
 
Originally Posted by Plan Beats

And I agree with Malta, too. If I'm tryin to listen to good music, I'm not listening to some sample-ridden Premo x Gangstarr album...
Are you trying to say that sampled rap isn't music?


Yea its music SOMEBODY ELSE'S Music. I respect some sampling in hip hop but producers who just sample all the time is
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. But Just is in my Top 5 tho. But Im from the south we

like chord progressions and Horns and s***. Tim might be the best cause he on that consistency grind plus when hip hop was slowing down he switch th game upand went left on yall

a**. Now he workin with Madonna
 
its one thing to b loop based but premo essentially takes a song and makes a whole new melody and everything... he dont just b loopin !@*+...

and music is music... no matter how u make it...
 
Originally Posted by Plan Beats

And I agree with Malta, too. If I'm tryin to listen to good music, I'm not listening to some sample-ridden Premo x Gangstarr album...
Are you trying to say that sampled rap isn't music?


Yea its music SOMEBODY ELSE'S Music. I respect some sampling in hip hop but producers who just sample all the time is
grin.gif
. But Just is in my Top 5 tho. But Im from the south we

like chord progressions and Horns and s***. Tim might be the best cause he on that consistency grind plus when hip hop was slowing down he switch th game up and went left on yall
a**. Now he workin with Madonna

Dre sampled the whole Chronic... and that goes down if not top 3 top 5 greatest hip hop albums of all time... and he still samples today... aswell as Tim... but my vote is for Tim... not only has he been doing it for a while.. he has more number one hits than most of the producers listed... hechanges the sound of music everytime he comes out... and please dont forget about %100 Ginuwine... which is another classic produced by Tim... he revampedNelly Frutado... Dre's last real big impact was In The Club...
 
Yea its music SOMEBODY ELSE'S Music. I respect some sampling in hip hop but producers who just sample all the time is
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You are aware thats how this art form started.

And thats the thing about Hip Hop, is that we can flip anything from music to fashion to style and make it better (for the most part).

Sampled or not, if something sounds good it sounds good and it shouldnt matter were it came from.
 
Are some of you cats serious. Does anyone on this site know anything about music?

People like the heatmakerz, neptunes, kanye, and polow are getting mentioned over this man:

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For real this man is a MUSICAL GENUIS, no other way to describe him. He's produced some of the greatest beats and greatest albums of all time. Hisproduction is on a whole nother level than pretty much everyone in the game. Cool, Timbaland is producing some great pop albums, while RZA is scoring majormovies.

This really shouldn't be a debate. Step your music knowledge up.
 
Originally Posted by SEND ONE

Yea its music SOMEBODY ELSE'S Music. I respect some sampling in hip hop but producers who just sample all the time is
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You are aware thats how this art form started.

And thats the thing about Hip Hop, is that we can flip anything from music to fashion to style and make it better (for the most part).

Sampled or not, if something sounds good it sounds good and it shouldnt matter were it came from.


Yea Im aware I am a true fan of hip hop and music as a whole but see Im the type to read credits of where the sample came from. and if the producer didnothing to the sample but loop it and speed it up what is creative about that?

And as for RZA true he has created some classic songs but if you concentrate on most of his beats most are just loops of rare samples I know yall gone tryto crucify me for HIP Hop Blasphemy but do your research first and you will find its true

Premo and Just Blaze are a few producers who chop up samples so beautifully you wont even recognize the song that was sample.
Danja, Timbo, DJ Toomp among others sample but they add instruments and melodies they created to the mix to make it "their own"
 
Originally Posted by FinesseSosa

nah he aint God of Beats...i think Just could see him

BUT

at the same time that stuff he did with Aaliyah is just downright disgusting so he could be

Yup!
 
Someone in this thread said that Dre is the only producer on the leftcoast that matters, well to each its own because Madlib is my favorite on the WestCoastand with his creativity he can compete with just about anyone.

Tims tracks with Aaliyah and G are definitely ahead of their time, we know this!

Just show Timbaland some love yall, post the name of tracks that you appreciate for him doing the producer on it.
He is a great producer hands down, i dont really want to say who is the best because it wouldnt even be valid as their are so many different styles out herenow.
 
i dont think alot of people know that tim cant read music// doesnt know music theory... everything is by ear...
 
Cool Neptunes evolution video, here is another video for you guys who like beats. Kanye held his own but� Swizz with his old DMX stuff killed it...

Swizz vs Kanye @ Summer Jam
 
timbo IS THE MOST COMPLEX producer...
kanye is the most biting producer...(love him just the same)
Dr Dre is the best detailed produced...
Diddy and the squad he has...IS THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME...dont get it twisted


primo is dope but tell him to do a rock or soulful album then we can talk...
heatmakers are a gangsta version of 9th wonder...thats all
 
yea but swizz has since fallen off... he'll come wit a banger every now and then but he's one of the inconsistent noise makers in the game...
 
And as for RZA true he has created some classic songs but if you concentrate on most of his beats most are just loops of rare samples I know yall gone try to crucify me for HIP Hop Blasphemy but do your research first and you will find its true

Not true at all, do your research. Most of his samples are chopped up brilliantly. Knowledge God for example, there are like four samples chopped up perfectlyinto 2 bars, it's not even recognizable by ear.
 
Idk why ppl discredit producers for sampling nowa days. It's pretty ridiculous.
And what is the op trying to say? The best hip hop producer /producer period/ most diverse/ or...what?
 
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