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The all black arenas are bad ***.

What's the difference with the Red ones than this past seasons Pavots??  I can't tell the difference. 
 
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The all black arenas are bad ***.

What's the difference with the Red ones than this past seasons Pavots??  I can't tell the difference. 
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Yeah I can't tell the difference either. Only thing I see is that the pair pictured looks more Salmon, that could just be the way it looks on my ipad though. And I agree about the blacks but ill pass doesn't make sure to have 2 pair of all blacks .
 
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The all black arenas are bad ***.

What's the difference with the Red ones than this past seasons Pavots??  I can't tell the difference. 
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Instacop for those all blacks.
Don't see the difference on the Pavots either. They look exactly the same to be honest.

Still got a pair for sale here. My g/f bought me a pair the other day while I already managed to luckily order myself a pair.

So when exactly will the all blacks drop?
 
The colorway for that "red" pair of arenas is called Rogue.

It's not really a red color in person
 
I don't have an SA as of yet... I purchased my Pavots from the Balenciaga site. What do I need to do in order to ensure I get a pair. Sz 39. And when exactly do those beauties drop?..
 
WHere did those FW13 Balenciaga sneakers come from? Any bigger pics?

Not sure what you guys were expecting different from Balenciaga, they will ride the wave of the arenas and cotes as much as it sells out. The only thing they can really do is change the colorways and materials, they might introduce a new type of sneakers here and there but it'll likely not sell as well so they just got to milk it as much as possible. I mean did anyone even buy these NB rip-offs?
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ssense got a restock of the raf simons holographic hi-top sneakers if anyone interested!

http://www.ssense.com/men/product/raf_simons/white_and_blue_leather_holographic_space_sneakers/66686
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You sure? I was on there yesterday and the same sizes I saw that were sold out from weeks ago are still sold out with the same exact sizes available from previous still there. :smh: By the way @RFX45 they will milk the same styles and eventually the cow will run dry. Look what happened to Prada on the men shoe side of things. They kept doing the same thing over and over again and look what happened? Prada sneakers are damn near non existent on the high end fashion seen in terms of popularity sadly. I will forever love the America's cup though. I expected something fresh and new from Balenciaga. This FW13 collection looks like something they should have put out a couple years ago then come with the rich colors and textures of Arena and Pleated we saw last and this year. To me Balenciaga is going BACKWARDS. |I While, the true lovers of Balenciaga those before the Kanye & Pusha T hype came will buy but won't do anything for sales. Trust me you don't know how many people have said they bought a pair of Balenciaga Arenas because of Kanye when initially they didn't even like the shoe. :rofl:
 
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You sure? I was on there yesterday and the same sizes I saw that were sold out from weeks ago are still sold out with the same exact sizes available from previous still there.
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By the way @RFX45 they will milk the same styles and eventually the cow will run dry. Look what happened to Prada on the men shoe side of things. They kept doing the same thing over and over again and look what happened? Prada sneakers are damn near non existent on the high end fashion seen in terms of popularity sadly. I will forever love the America's cup though. I expected something fresh and new from Balenciaga. This FW13 collection looks like something they should have put out a couple years ago then come with the rich colors and textures of Arena and Pleated we saw last and this year. To me Balenciaga is going BACKWARDS.
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While, the true lovers of Balenciaga those before the Kanye & Pusha T hype came will buy but won't do anything for sales. Trust me you don't know how many people have said they bought a pair of Balenciaga Arenas because of Kanye when initially they didn't even like the shoe.
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I am guilty..  I was more of a pleated fan than an Arena fan..  But the Pavot Arenas are a beautifully designed shoe..  I also agree about the  Prada America's Cup sneaker...  They are virtually non existent as far as popularity.  But last spring I managed to re-up on an all black hi-top pair of America's cups..  They are like fresh white on white air force 1 lows..  Even after the hype they are still a very nice shoe...  And when worn properly..  They still anchor and outfit beautifully...
 
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That all black arena looks pretty good. Those gray patchworks look pretty good 2.
 
Jays4Day23 said:
By the way @RFX45 they will milk the same styles and eventually the cow will run dry. Look what happened to Prada on the men shoe side of things. They kept doing the same thing over and over again and look what happened? Prada sneakers are damn near non existent on the high end fashion seen in terms of popularity sadly. I will forever love the America's cup though. I expected something fresh and new from Balenciaga. This FW13 collection looks like something they should have put out a couple years ago then come with the rich colors and textures of Arena and Pleated we saw last and this year. To me Balenciaga is going BACKWARDS. |I While, the true lovers of Balenciaga those before the Kanye & Pusha T hype came will buy but won't do anything for sales. Trust me you don't know how many people have said they bought a pair of Balenciaga Arenas because of Kanye when initially they didn't even like the shoe. :rofl:
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The thing is, Balenciaga has been doing this for a while now. Cotes has come out for maybe a half a decade or longer with different materials and people just recognize them now. This has been a pattern, I mean really don't know what you guys expect? They can't make pleated cotes every season in just different colorways and expect that to not be stale after a while. Arena is a simple design, again other than different materials and different colorways, you really can't expect more from it. You can't say theya re going backwards when they have been experimenting with different materials for years and years, they just happen to hit a real home run with the pleates and everyone went nuts (Kanye or not) and then they'll move on until that next home run comes out. I mean I have been posting Balenciaga sneaks here for years and people like them but never actually sought them out and bought them, not until recently. Wide availability had something to do with them but if people really wanted Balenciaga, a few simple and quick look and you could have acquired a pair, hell I got my pair from Bluefly a few years back. :lol:

Plus Balenciaga came out with crazy colorways and materials this past season too, the pleates popularity just made them forgettable. So really, those shouldn't be a surprise and do not expect much since they also just switched head designers. Chances are Wang has no connection with the sneakers, at least that is what it looks like in his first year with the brand but he does have a more sporty aesthetic so I can see them doing a few new styles when Wang gets to it.

You can't really compare it to Prada ACups, those were already guido shoes to begin with and it was never as limited as Balenciaga was/is. Balenciaga is still taking the Nike SB route where it isn't sold everywhere and has very limited sizing unlike ACups that goes on sale every season. Even back when they were popular they rarely sold out, they could be had for $200 while Balenciaga's is still being resold for more than retail like they are some retro J's now. ACUps also came out in a bunch of colorways w/o changing or adding exotic materials, they just rode it til it died. And they do still sell believe it or not, not as much as before and they probably cut back on production but I still see lots of them in departments stores and still only very few colorways make it in the outlets.
 
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The all white,all black, gray and red pairs are all sting ray. You can't tell in the pics the reps are sending but in person you can definitely see it. All black is easily the best in person.
 
I always wondered now I know.

PARIS, France – After months of silence, Nicolas Ghesquière has finally spoken out.

System magazine’s Jonathan Wingfield interviewed Nicolas Ghesquière several times between early December 2012 and late March 2013. This was the first time Ghesquière had chosen to speak publicly about his shock departure after 15 years at Balenciaga.

Ghesquière opens up about why he left Balenciaga, his thoughts and impressions about the current state of the fashion industry and what the future has in store. As he mentions at one point in this defining conversation, “The best way to move forward is to go back to work.”

What follows is a global exclusive excerpt from the interview.

At what point into the job at Balenciaga did you realise you needed to wise up to the business side of the brand?

NG: Straight away. It’s part of being a creative because the vision you have ends up in the stores. It actually makes me smile today when I think about it because it was me who had to invent the concept of being commercial at Balenciaga. Right from the start I wanted it to be commercial, but the first group who owned the house didn’t have the first notion of commerce; there was no production team. There was nothing.

What was your vision for the brand?

NG: For me, Balenciaga has a history that is just as important as that of Chanel, even if it’s a lesser-known name. It had the modernity, it was contemporary, and I’ve always positioned it as a little Chanel or Prada.

But what makes Chanel and Prada bigger structures?

NG: The people that surround the designers. Miuccia Prada has an extraordinary partner, whereas I was doing everything by myself.

So without the right people, building something as big as a Chanel or Prada is unimaginable?

NG: I don’t know if it’s impossible, maybe the system will change, but what’s clear is that those brands have family and partners surrounding them, and they have creative carte blanche. Prada, for example, has made this model where you can be a business and an opinion leader at the same time, which is totally admirable. It’s the same thing at Chanel. Sadly, I never had that. I never had a partner, and I ended up feeling too alone. I had a marvellous studio and design team who were close to me, but it started becoming a bureaucracy and gradually became more corporate, until it was no longer even linked to fashion. In the end, it felt as though they just wanted to be like any other house.

You’re saying this spanned from a lack of dialogue?

NG: From the fact that there was no one helping me on the business side, for example.

Can you be more specific?

NG: They wanted to open up a load of stores but in really mediocre spaces, where people weren’t aware of the brand. It was a strategy that I just couldn’t relate to. I found this garage space on Faubourg-Saint-Honoré; I got in contact with the real estate guy who’s a friend of a friend, and we started talking… And when I went back to Balenciaga, the reaction was, ‘Oh no, no, no, not Faubourg-Saint-Honoré, you can’t be serious?’ And I said yes really, the architecture is amazing, it’s not a classic shop. Oh really, really… then six months went by, six long months of negotiations… it was just so frustrating. Everything was like that.

And the conversations, like that one about the store, who would you have them with?

NG: I’d rather not say. There wasn’t really any direction. I think with Karl and Miuccia, you can feel that it’s the creative people who have the power. It was around that time that I heard people saying, ‘Your style is so Balenciaga now, it’s no longer Nicolas Ghesquière, it’s Balenciaga’s style.’ It all became so dehumanised. Everything became an asset for the brand, trying to make it ever more corporate – it was all about branding. I don’t have anything against that; actually, the thing that I’m most proud of is that Balenciaga has become a big financial entity and will continue to exist. But I began to feel as though I was being sucked dry, like they wanted to steal my identity while trying to homogenise things. It just wasn’t fulfilling anymore.

When was the first time you felt your ambitions for the house were no longer compatible with Balenciaga’s management?

NG: It was all the time, but especially over the last two or three years it became one frustration after another. It was really that lack of culture which bothered me in the end. The strongest pieces that we made for the catwalk got ignored by the business people. They forgot that in order to get to that easily sellable biker jacket, it had to go via a technically mastered piece that had been shown on the catwalk. I started to become unhappy when I realised that there was no esteem, interest, or recognition for the research that I’d done; they only cared about what the merchandisable result would look like. This accelerated desire meant they ignored the fact that all the pieces that remain the most popular today are from collections we made ten years ago. They have become classics and will carry on being so. Although the catwalk was extremely rich in ideas and products, there was no follow-up merchandising. With just one jacket we could have triggered whole commercial strategies. It’s what I wanted to do, but I couldn’t do everything. I was switching between the designs for the catwalk and the merchandisable pieces – I became Mr Merchandiser. There was never a merchandiser at Balenciaga, which I regret terribly.

Did you never go to the top of the group and ask for the support you needed?

NG: Yes, endlessly! But they didn’t understand. More than anything else, you need people who understand fashion. There are people I’ve worked with who have never understood how fashion works. They keep saying they love fashion, yet they’ve never actually grasped that this isn’t yoghurt or a piece of furniture – products in the purest sense of the term. They just don’t understand the process at all, and so now they’re transforming it into something much more reproducible and flat.

What’s the alternative to this?

NG: You need to have the right people around you: people who adore the luxury domain. There has to be a vision, but there also has to be a partner, a duo, someone to help you carry it. I haven’t lost hope!

At the time when you were starting to feel that frustration, did you talk to any other designers who were in the same situation?

NG: Yes. What’s interesting is how my split from Balenciaga has encouraged people to get in touch with me, and they’ve said, ‘Me too, I’m in the same situation. I want to leave too.’ There are others, but my situation at Balenciaga was very particular.

In spite of the increasingly stifling conditions you felt you were operating in, were you nonetheless scared by the prospect of leaving Balenciaga?

NG: I just said to myself, ‘Okay, well you have to leave, you have to cut the cord.’ But I didn’t say anything to anyone, apart from to a few very close people, because, you know, I’ve become pretty good at standing on my own two feet.

Once you’d decided enough was enough and you made your intentions clear, was management surprised that you wanted to leave?

NG: Yes. I think so, because I’d shown my ambitions for the house. There’d been lots of discussions, of course, and there were clearly some differences, but that sort of decision doesn’t just come out of nowhere. I’d been thinking a lot too. I was having trouble sleeping at one point. [Laughs] But there’s usually something keeping me awake.

After the announcement, did lots of people in the fashion world contact you?

NG: I didn’t actually see all the reactions straight away because I was in Japan at the time; one of my best friends had taken me on something of a spiritual trip to observe people who make traditional lacquer and obi belts; it was such a privileged environment with tea ceremonies. On the other side of the world, there was this violent announcement being made. When I got back to Paris I saw the press, and with all the commentary going on I actually learnt things about myself; it was quite beautiful in fact. Generally the reaction had been very positive, even on Twitter there were some very satisfactory things being written. Ultimately, I felt okay in the end because it seemed very dignified. I haven’t expressed myself up until now, but I would like to say thank you to everyone, I really am very grateful.

Did you ever think about making a personal announcement?

NG: No, I never wanted to express myself like that. I don’t know how to do that.

What’s the most exciting thing about this period of time for you?

NG: Preparing for the next chapter and having the time to observe what’s going on in the industry. People could have forever associated me with Balenciaga. We saw clearly when the split took place that there was a desire for my name, so I disassociated myself naturally from the house. That could have been a risk. It would have been different if Balenciaga had disassociated itself from me, but people had seen me develop my signature and knew that it might happen. That’s exciting because whatever choice I make, the possibilities are open, and that was confirmed with the freeing of my name from Balenciaga. I’d made so much effort and been such a good obedient kid in associating myself… Now I can imagine a whole new vocabulary. I’m regenerating again, and that’s very exciting because it’s a feeling I haven’t had since I was in my twenties
 
^^^^^ Great read. Well now we see why the brand is going downhill. You see like I stated earlier, they are concerning themselves so much with making money that they will dumb down down creativity instead of doing new innovative and exciting stuff. Maybe with him leaving could also be why they are stopping the Pleated? Either way, I doubt Balenciaga will be seeing any of my money anymore at least the FW13 collection. Some of y'all are hype for those Triple Black Arena's like it's something special. LOL It's the same black shoe from before. :smh: Try something new.
 
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They aren't stopping the pleateds, it's a seasonal design, the cotes itself just gets different materials but the silhouette and style of shoe is the same. It's like the Jordan IV's just getting different materials every year, it's the same with Balenciaga. The pleateds weren't an innovative design. Even the pleate style weren't exactly the same from the past 2-3 season. They were all different.
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And look, the cotes from maybe 4-5 years ago, same design shoes just different materials.
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My balenciaga from 2-3 years ago. Again, same shoe different materials.
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The shoe design itself wasn't innovative at all, high designer shoes has always tried to integrate new and exotic materials to their shoes to separate themselves from the others and that is exactly what the pleateds were.

The only thing they really changed the past few years are the arenas and if I were being honest, I prefer the older ones. Thing was just not sold everywhere.
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Trust me, the brand is not going downhill, not even close. Sneakers =/= brand and chances are, Nicolas probabkly has nothing to do with sneakers anymore, same way Raf or Margiela themselves doesn't really handle the sneakers/shoe department anymore, hell they do not even do their own mens line anymore.
 
Quick question team, I have my White Arenas stored in the plastic bags and in the balenciaga white box (same way they came to me). Is this ok for storing?  I havent wore my sneakers yet, but i took them out last weekend and noticed some slight discoloring around the bottom, near outside sole.  Could be just in my head but just wanted to ask the pros..
 
^^^ I wouldn't store them in the plastics...just let them breathe. They will be ok.
"Finally outta the box!" Hahaha (violet video)
 
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