Nice pick up
I have some VR Pro blades on order. Nike did a great job with this set. The biggest difference is the feel. They now have the heads being done by a process/company called endo forging. It is similar to Mizuno in that buttery feel now. I cannot wait for my set to show up. You can also get them stamped. I got mine stamped just on the 3,6,9 iron.
I never said it was endo forged in Japan. I'm aware of the differences sir. It is the endo I was thinking of. I know the Nike heads are coming from the Thailand plant. It still doesn't change how I feel about these. Never said they were grain flow forged like Mizuno or even Forged like Epon Irons. Like you I love Mizuno irons and I love how these new VR Pro Combo's feel like a Mizuno to me.
Fair enough. But since you know what you're talking about. You probably know disclosing that they're forged by Endo Thailand isn't really saying much and that by stating where they were done by Endo you kind of imply that they are top quality which they arent. Not to mention, Endo Thailand does not use nearly as virgin steel to do their forgings with as compared to other forging houses. The lack of virgin steel and the impurities is what allows for Endo to go and outsource their work to Thailand. Even Endo Japan doesn't use that pure of a steel compared to other forging houses. Also saying Endo Thailand is similar to Mizuno in the buttery feel is kind of like saying a Volkswagen and a BMW have that German lineage. Sorry man, the feel aint the same for a discerning player.Talking about feel on a non Japanese forged iron is like saying banging a girl with a thin condom is about as good as goin raw. AKA not in the same ballpark. If you beg to differ (and I'm sure you will), well, we'll just have to agree to disagree.
Mentioning that they switch forging houses is a valid point that wasn't meant to imply anything. I figured that 90% of this board, like the rest of the golfing public, know nothing or care about endo and high end japanese forgings. All I wanted to do was point out that Nike had changed their supplier and that people who may have disliked the previous lines of irons may care to try out the new stuff. The problem is your arguing feel, which is different for every player. I've hit Miura's that go for thousands of dollars and walked away unimpressed. Just as how someone can dislike the Nike's and I will not argue with them.
Actually no. You're the one that initially brought up feel. My initial post to your comments was about quality and if you read it carefully I still mention that Nike clubs are still very quality. In fact, if you actually have been in this thread for more than 2 seconds, you will see I actually play the Nike VR tour driver. Good for you for playing Miura, big whup. But fyi, Miura does not go for thousandS (plural) of dollars, they go for less than 2gs. If you're paying more, you're getting ripped off. I'm going to assume you're a member of GolfWRX so you probably have some knowledge of what you're talking about which is good. But mentioning a forging company is completely asinine as even you stated yourself that 90% of this board won't have a clue or care. Which means your statement afterwards is completely useless because stating that Nike changed their supplier, like YOU stated, 90% of this board won't have a clue or care. In fact, since you're probably the 10%, the ORIGINAL Nike blades were actually forged by Miura and the ORIGINAL Nike Pro Combos were forged in Endo JAPAN so their QUALITY was actually better. Sorry dude, but you keep shooting yourself in the foot. I was simply talking about the quality of metals and you initially brought up feel. Like I said, agree to disagree.
Kobe why the animosity?
