Asomugha how did you do that?!?!?!

Originally Posted by gangsta207therevolution

Not worth 15 million.........
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. really? dude had like EIGHT passes completed onhim the entire year last year. he takes away one half of the field. when they do throw his way, you see him nab around 8 picks like he did a couple years ago.raiders arent even my team but i know how great he really is. hes the best corner in the nfl, ahead of champ
 
Anyways. He's about as shutdown as you can be. So while it's an unprecedented contract, who cares. Pay the man if he's that good.
Picks are an overrated stat to me. I mean, most of the time they just happen because the qb throws a horrendous pass.
 
RAIDERS DID A GOOD THING. NOW ALL WE NEED IS REY MAULUGA AND WE ARE SET. RAIDERS WILL BE AFC WEST CHAMPIONS. YOU CAN TAKE THAT TO THE BANK AL. .

"I DONT LISTEN TO HATERS" -AL DAVIS
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Originally Posted by AG 47

Someone would rather have Asante Samuel over Nnamdi Asomugha?
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Don't get me wrong, Zant is good, but he's not on Nnamdi's level.

That playmaker %%$$ gets nullified when he's getting killed by the opposing team's #1 (see. Roddy White, Larry Fitzgerald)
Dude is nice...Totally shutting down your man is elite, You dont really need ints if your defense can depend on you to shut down your man.
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Originally Posted by ady2glude707



This was the second major re-signing by the Raiders in two days; on Wednesday, Shane Lechler agreed to a four-year, $16 million contract, the richest ever for a punter.

Both deals were negotiated by agent Tom Condon, with Raiders owner Al Davis having significant involvement in brokering the agreements.


HAHA raiders still taking L's.

They been takin L's for a while now.
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Originally Posted by Mister Friendly

Originally Posted by AG 47

Someone would rather have Asante Samuel over Nnamdi Asomugha?
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Don't get me wrong, Zant is good, but he's not on Nnamdi's level.

That playmaker %%$$ gets nullified when he's getting killed by the opposing team's #1 (see. Roddy White, Larry Fitzgerald)
Dude is nice...Totally shutting down your man is elite, You dont really need ints if your defense can depend on you to shut down your man.
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Um yea you do if your offense is terrible.

His is great at what he does but until he shows some playmaking ability he is a one trick pony. And he needs to show it more so because of the team he is on.
 
Originally Posted by theone2401

Originally Posted by Mister Friendly

Originally Posted by AG 47

Someone would rather have Asante Samuel over Nnamdi Asomugha?
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Don't get me wrong, Zant is good, but he's not on Nnamdi's level.

That playmaker %%$$ gets nullified when he's getting killed by the opposing team's #1 (see. Roddy White, Larry Fitzgerald)
Dude is nice...Totally shutting down your man is elite, You dont really need ints if your defense can depend on you to shut down your man.
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Um yea you do if your offense is terrible.

His is great at what he does but until he shows some playmaking ability he is a one trick pony. And he needs to show it more so because of the team he is on.


Yeah thats a pretty bad one trick to have....Sgutting down a side of the field
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Originally Posted by Mister Friendly

Originally Posted by theone2401

Originally Posted by Mister Friendly

Originally Posted by AG 47

Someone would rather have Asante Samuel over Nnamdi Asomugha?
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Don't get me wrong, Zant is good, but he's not on Nnamdi's level.

That playmaker %%$$ gets nullified when he's getting killed by the opposing team's #1 (see. Roddy White, Larry Fitzgerald)
Dude is nice...Totally shutting down your man is elite, You dont really need ints if your defense can depend on you to shut down your man.
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Um yea you do if your offense is terrible.

His is great at what he does but until he shows some playmaking ability he is a one trick pony. And he needs to show it more so because of the team he is on.


Yeah thats a pretty bad one trick to have....Sgutting down a side of the field
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co-sign...dudes now comin in here talkin nonsense, tryin to throw their two cents in with no real substance to their posts. the only person who actually backsup that claim is gunna, and we all know he knows his stuff. all these other dudes trynna cosign with no real argument.
 
Originally Posted by GUNNA GET IT

Originally Posted by S Dizzel

Well, dude is the best man press CB in the nfl. Nate Clements and Asante Samuel got paid, neither have his coverage skills.
he doesnt have their ball skills, and he doesnt help his team win games neither. *shrugs* so it all balances out


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Gunna, a raider fan, rams fan and a jags fan
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some of you dudes a ridiculous, lotta people in here got that ESPN talkin sports outta your *!% syndrome
 
Originally Posted by GUNNA GET IT

Originally Posted by S Dizzel

Well, dude is the best man press CB in the nfl. Nate Clements and Asante Samuel got paid, neither have his coverage skills.
he doesnt have their ball skills, and he doesnt help his team win games neither. *shrugs* so it all balances out
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Originally Posted by LiCeNseD To BaLL

Originally Posted by Mister Friendly

Originally Posted by theone2401

Originally Posted by Mister Friendly

Originally Posted by AG 47

Someone would rather have Asante Samuel over Nnamdi Asomugha?
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Don't get me wrong, Zant is good, but he's not on Nnamdi's level.

That playmaker %%$$ gets nullified when he's getting killed by the opposing team's #1 (see. Roddy White, Larry Fitzgerald)
Dude is nice...Totally shutting down your man is elite, You dont really need ints if your defense can depend on you to shut down your man.
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Um yea you do if your offense is terrible.

His is great at what he does but until he shows some playmaking ability he is a one trick pony. And he needs to show it more so because of the team he is on.


Yeah thats a pretty bad one trick to have....Sgutting down a side of the field
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co-sign...dudes now comin in here talkin nonsense, tryin to throw their two cents in with no real substance to their posts. the only person who actually backs up that claim is gunna, and we all know he knows his stuff. all these other dudes trynna cosign with no real argument.

I know you arent talking about me. My argument is legit and i know my stuff. He doesnt help the Raiders win. What isnt legit about that?

No one said it was bad being a one trick pony but versatile players are better then one dimensional players is that even a debate?
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Any other thing you take from what I said is putting words in my mouth. He is agreat corner. Your the one who sounds like you dont know your stuff if you dont see his weaknesses.
 
Originally Posted by N3FF 3000

How does shutting down 1/2 of the field not help the Raiders?

Its it really that over your head? Gunna and Dre already layed it out and its a very legit argument I think. Teams that win the turnover margin winchampionships not teams with corners who shut down half the field what part of that is hard to understand? No one is saying he isnt good or valuable but thathe could be better.
 
Originally Posted by theone2401

Originally Posted by N3FF 3000

How does shutting down 1/2 of the field not help the Raiders?

Its it really that over your head? Gunna and Dre already layed it out and its a very legit argument I think. Teams that in the turnover margin win championships not teams with corners who shut down half the field what part of that is hard to understand?
so if Asante was on the Raiders they would win a championship?

what are you even saying?
 
...If they had other decent players that could key on the other half of the +$$$%$$ field they would create TO's genius. He makes the game 10x easier forthe other 10 players on his defense. The Raiders were a top 10 pass defense this year. Your right, he definitely isn't helping the Raiders....
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Originally Posted by DOWNTOWN43

Originally Posted by theone2401

Originally Posted by N3FF 3000

How does shutting down 1/2 of the field not help the Raiders?

Its it really that over your head? Gunna and Dre already layed it out and its a very legit argument I think. Teams that in the turnover margin win championships not teams with corners who shut down half the field what part of that is hard to understand?
so if Asante was on the Raiders they would win a championship?

what are you even saying?
That there are multiple things to being a good corner back beside how good you are in man to man coverage?

...If they had other decent players that could key on the other half of the %@!$%%% field they would create TO's genius. He makes the game 10x easier for the other 10 players on his defense.
So what? That doesnt mean he cannot improve his ability to create turnovers. All your saying is "he is a good man to man corner"everyone agrees with that. So that mean he has nothing he can improve on? Thanks for stating the obvious.
 
i hear the argument but i can't see in this specific case Asante > Asomugha
 
How does someone create TO's when NOBODY THROWS THE $*#$+!% BALL TO HIS SIDE OF THE FIELD! How many balls were thrown to him this season...15-20?
 
That there are multiple things to being a good corner back beside how good you are in man to man coverage?


^^ And Asante doesn't benefit from the Eagles scheme? *@+? The Eagles had what, the #2 defense last year? Jim Johnson constantly puts pressure even when upby 3 TDs. Asante is allowed to take all his bum @$% risks because of all the pressure the Eagles generate. Try that +@+% on a team like Denver

P.S. How did Asante do against Fitzgerald in the NFC Championship
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Originally Posted by theone2401

Originally Posted by DOWNTOWN43

Originally Posted by theone2401

Originally Posted by N3FF 3000

How does shutting down 1/2 of the field not help the Raiders?

Its it really that over your head? Gunna and Dre already layed it out and its a very legit argument I think. Teams that in the turnover margin win championships not teams with corners who shut down half the field what part of that is hard to understand?
so if Asante was on the Raiders they would win a championship?

what are you even saying?
That there are multiple things to being a good corner back beside how good you are in man to man coverage?
you're right, there are more things to being a good CB than how good you are in man-to-man coverage.
just like there are more things to being a good RB than running the ball.

that said, Adrian Peterson is a better football player than Reggie Bush, and Nnamdi Asomugah is a better football player than Asante Samuel.
 
Originally Posted by allen3xis

i hear the argument but i can't see in this specific case Asante > Asomugha

Its not that one is better than the other (I prefer man corners so I would take Asomugha) they just have different strengths that are both important. Its likepeople are trying to grade corners on one objective scale and you cannot do that. Its like comparing apples and oranges.
How does someone create TO's when NOBODY THROWS THE $*#$+!% BALL TO HIS SIDE OF THE FIELD! How many balls were thrown to him this season...15-20?
Did you read the post? Good corners bait QB's into throwing to them. Champ Bailey and Deion are masters of this. They TRY TO CREATE turnovers.It is a skill.
 
Right because if I hold the opposing teams #1 receiver to 0 catches, i basically take the biggest scoring threat away from the other team, but hey im nothelping my team win im just out here looking pretty.
 
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