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Kobe has no rivals.. his rivals are already retired.. playing for legacy now.
KOBE HAS NO RIVAL?????
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i remember kobe said one game after losing "hey what i can do? it is dwade we talking bout"
kobe is just too cool with wade tho to see him as a " rival threat"
wade too young tho?...he got a ring on his finger at a "young age" tho
kobe is just too cool with wade tho to see him as a " rival threat"
wade too young tho?...he got a ring on his finger at a "young age" tho
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lebron has melo, chris has deron, etc and so forth... what is meant is great players who came into the league at relatively the same era within years of one another. like wall and irving. rose and westbrook. plus factor in like you said having a great team or a team of equal quality on said rival team. sorta how utah and n.o. was when paul/deron was there.
in kobe time even the other players of greatness were at a disadvantage because while they were great individually there teams werent. like bird and magic celts/lakers... it be nice to see that again but with the way drafts are and trade rules etc. it might not ever happen again
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yup
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don't care if they were on the same team and play different positions, his biggest rival was Shaq then Vanessa
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This
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8, 24 who gives a !%#%.
Mamba is still feared by all.
Mamba is still feared by all.
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I'm a HUGE Ray Allen fan, but Kobe has absolutely destroyed Jesus after he put Kobe on blast. They both have a personal vendetta against each other.Originally Posted by PMatic
The battles between Kobe and Ray Allen since Allen spoke his mind about the Shaq trade.
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Outside of Pierce his biggest rival the last few years been a white hat and a cameraman.
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methinks AI wouldve been a good rival
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Hell yeah.Originally Posted by AG 47
Originally Posted by PMatic
The battles between Kobe and Ray Allen since Allen spoke his mind about the Shaq trade.
I'd even include Paul Pierce. Those final appearances have to count for something.
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Right now he doesn't have a clear cut rival, but a few years back (2007-2009) Lebron was undoubtedly Kobe's rival and everyone knew it. Back then the consensus of who was the best in the league was split evenly.
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Tracy McGrady would have been the rival for kobe if not for the injuries.
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If I recall, Tracy fried Kobe the majority of the time from their meets....
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I would agree in terms of individual greatness during the same time frame but Dirk and Kobe never played each other in the playoffs until last year (Dirk and Mavs
And
Iverson came closest, battling it out with Bryant in the 2001 NBA Finals; but
Iverson's shot-happy ways made even the ultra-aggressive Bryant look tame by
comparison, and his bad off-court habits relegated him to an afterthought as a
player a few months after Bryant's Lakers topped Iverson's Nuggets in the 2009
Western Conference finals
is inaccurate. Iverson had already been shipped to the Pistons for Chauncy Billups when the Nuggets played the Lakers in the West Finals that year
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Since he's had his own squad, He hasn't played any great SG/SF in the playoffs repeatedly.
I don't count Ray because he let Vujacic and then Fisher guard him in the finals and Ray wasn't the best player not leader of that Celtics team. Ray isn't a 1on1 player anyway
I don't count Ray because he let Vujacic and then Fisher guard him in the finals and Ray wasn't the best player not leader of that Celtics team. Ray isn't a 1on1 player anyway
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That version of Kobe (00-04) wasn't even that good though... Kobe became a much better player after that, while TMac really never improved. Shaq was so dominant VC, TMac or AI would have three-peated with him in the paint... starting off your career with a three ring cushion damn near off the bat was a nice luxury to have for Kobe...
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Kobe has no rivals? Yeah, he would've been able to talk and bark, and walk. It's sad that no matter what he might've done, he was plagued by a few mistakes and these mistakes were enough to taint this guy. Had he not ran into legal problems, gotten a tattoo, and divorced, KOBE would've been able to maintain himself and craft his own name.
It's a shame, because someone like him had everything going. He was the cleanest cut guy, the baddest, the greatest but he messed up and sooner or later, KOBE will realize he is a pushover and this will be very difficult for him to accept.
It's a shame, because someone like him had everything going. He was the cleanest cut guy, the baddest, the greatest but he messed up and sooner or later, KOBE will realize he is a pushover and this will be very difficult for him to accept.
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Vince Carter was never on Kobes level, all he could do is score points for a sorry team and dunk, he also lacked heart.
Allen Iverson was a more selfish player than even Kobe, he was also a very undisciplined player.
McGrady probably couldve came close but he didnt have Kobes disclipine, therefore him and Shaq wouldve underacheived.
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Just like OP has no rival in posting ugly beasts in General, Kobe has no real rival either.
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Vince came in to the league ready to go, he's always been a great passer and physically one of the stronger 2 guards to ever do it... NBA players used to say he was one of the most difficult players in the league to go up against, ya'll try to downplay dudes career so much on here
AI was the only scoring option in Philly, if he played with Shaq he would have shot much more efficiently...
McGrady was doing what Durant is doing now and passing much better... you gotta be kidding
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Not any one individual is Kobe's rival. It just worked out that way. I'm sure Kobe would tell you the whole NBA is his rival though.
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Plenty of greats have have no "direct" rival, its quite rare in fact.
And Vince, t Mac, and A.I. are not on Kobes level....yes it was arguable for a few years but those dudes had too much of a quick falloff.
A.I. is a hall of famer yes, but T Mac and Vince were damn good players.....you can't just plug them in for an all timer and just automatically assume you'd get the same results. Its not that black/white fam.
And Vince, t Mac, and A.I. are not on Kobes level....yes it was arguable for a few years but those dudes had too much of a quick falloff.
A.I. is a hall of famer yes, but T Mac and Vince were damn good players.....you can't just plug them in for an all timer and just automatically assume you'd get the same results. Its not that black/white fam.
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oh what couldve been if penny and grant didnt have injuries
