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If you are laughing at this then you really shouldnt talk about the NBA anymore. Unless you are laughing because he put Nash in the same tier with those two and he should maybe be higher...
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If you are laughing at this then you really shouldnt talk about the NBA anymore. Unless you are laughing because he put Nash in the same tier with those two and he should maybe be higher...
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If you are laughing at this then you really shouldnt talk about the NBA anymore. Unless you are laughing because he put Nash in the same tier with those two and he should maybe be higher...
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This took a turn for the worse.
I got the Knicks in the mock draft. Hopefully there wont be a replay of my avy.
I got the Knicks in the mock draft. Hopefully there wont be a replay of my avy.
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This took a turn for the worse.
I got the Knicks in the mock draft. Hopefully there wont be a replay of my avy.
I got the Knicks in the mock draft. Hopefully there wont be a replay of my avy.
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If you are laughing at this then you really shouldnt talk about the NBA anymore. Unless you are laughing because he put Nash in the same tier with those two and he should maybe be higher...Originally Posted by Fecta23
Steve is in a class of his own but Stephen and Deron are grouped in that Tier 1 PG's who can shoot. I simply said that Kyrie would fall into that 2nd Tier behind those guys.
All I'm saying and dudes try to make it out like I swear he's a scrub
Cause I'm not calling him CP3 I'm making him out to be a bust or something
Son, your hate for Kyrie and Duke is so transparent. Had he gone to IU you would have been moppin' up his baby batter
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If you are laughing at this then you really shouldnt talk about the NBA anymore. Unless you are laughing because he put Nash in the same tier with those two and he should maybe be higher...Originally Posted by Fecta23
Steve is in a class of his own but Stephen and Deron are grouped in that Tier 1 PG's who can shoot. I simply said that Kyrie would fall into that 2nd Tier behind those guys.
All I'm saying and dudes try to make it out like I swear he's a scrub
Cause I'm not calling him CP3 I'm making him out to be a bust or something
Son, your hate for Kyrie and Duke is so transparent. Had he gone to IU you would have been moppin' up his baby batter
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And AMP was praying and hoping for Kyrie to go to IU
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And AMP was praying and hoping for Kyrie to go to IU
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Lets see.......
Nash
Curry
D-Will
Aaron Brooks
Billups
Jameer Nelson
Calderon
Hinrich
Augustin
Mo Williams
Devin Harris
Holiday
CP3
Felton/Lawson
Parker
Rose
Conley
Jennings
Collison
Westbrook
That's how I would stack the best shooting starting point guards in the league. Where would Irving be?
Nash
Curry
D-Will
Aaron Brooks
Billups
Jameer Nelson
Calderon
Hinrich
Augustin
Mo Williams
Devin Harris
Holiday
CP3
Felton/Lawson
Parker
Rose
Conley
Jennings
Collison
Westbrook
That's how I would stack the best shooting starting point guards in the league. Where would Irving be?
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Lets see.......
Nash
Curry
D-Will
Aaron Brooks
Billups
Jameer Nelson
Calderon
Hinrich
Augustin
Mo Williams
Devin Harris
Holiday
CP3
Felton/Lawson
Parker
Rose
Conley
Jennings
Collison
Westbrook
That's how I would stack the best shooting starting point guards in the league. Where would Irving be?
Nash
Curry
D-Will
Aaron Brooks
Billups
Jameer Nelson
Calderon
Hinrich
Augustin
Mo Williams
Devin Harris
Holiday
CP3
Felton/Lawson
Parker
Rose
Conley
Jennings
Collison
Westbrook
That's how I would stack the best shooting starting point guards in the league. Where would Irving be?
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im not you
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kix4kix wrote:
SmoothBalla wrote:
ATGD7154xBBxMZ wrote:
I'd look at any college team that produced more superstars. Duke has produced none.
I don't follow your argument because it went from "Duke's track record is horrible" to "Duke has produced (no superstars)."
I asked, "which college program has produced a better stable of talent in the NBA?" I didn't ask, "which college program has produced more superstars?"
When you use "track record," you automatically incorporate historical consistency. And history indicates that Duke is just as good, if not better, at consistently producing NBA talent in comparison to other college programs.
However, since you'd like to use "track record" as an indicator with "superstar" as the outcome...
What college program do you know of has a "track record" of producing "superstar" talent?
Because I don't know any college programs that have been consistent in producing "superstar" talent in recent memory seeing as though the NBA is dominated by players drafted from high school and overseas.
And I'll define "superstar" as a player possessing "MVP or All-NBA team type talent":
Marquette has produced Dwyane Wade (25 ppg), Wesley Mathews (13), Lazar Hayward (4), Steve Novak (4), and Travis Diener (no longer in the NBA). That would be 1 superstar.A good example is Wake Forest: Tim Duncan (21 ppg), Chris Paul (19), Josh Howard (15), Darius Songalia (7), Al-Farouq Aminu (6), James Johnson (5), Jeff Teague (4), and Ishmael Smith (2). That is two superstars mixed with several serviceable players.For comparison, Duke: Elton Brand (19 ppg), Grant Hill (1, Carlos Boozer (17 ppg), Corey Maggette (16), Luol Deng (16), Mike Dunleavy (12), Shane Battier (10), J.J. Redick (
, Gerald Henderson (7), Chris Duhon (7), Dahntay Jones (6), Josh McRoberts (5), Shelden Williams (5). Brand (2nd), Hill (1st), and Boozer (3rd) have been All-NBA with the rest being serviceable. I'd stack Duke's alumni against any other college program in recent memory.
Once again...
What college program do you know of that has a "track record" of producing "superstar" talent?
And if/when you reply, I'd like to see your definition of "superstar."
Before anyone starts defining superstar, Imma need you to define talent. You would take dukes "stable" of talent before any other program in recent memory?
NT slays me sometimes, it really does. They don't even have the best "stable" in their state.
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Talent? How about "a person possessing an above average ability." Point blank, it takes talent to make the NBA.
And why are you even quoting "stable." That term isn't open to interpretation.
I have no problem saying UNC > Duke if you want to factor in all-time alumni into the equation (as well as a few other programs) but that's not what this argument is about. Hence, the use of the term recent memory and the inclusion of the college programs current alumni list.
This past year...
UNC:
Antawn Jamison = 18 and 7 boards
Raymond Felton = 16 and 8 dimes
Vince Carter = 14 and 4 boards
Ty Lawson = 12 and 5 dimes
Tyler Hansbrough = 11 and 5 boards
Marvin Williams = 10 and 5 boards
Ed Davis = 8 and 5 boards
Wayne Ellington = 7 and 2 boards
Danny Green = 5 and 2 boards
Brendan Haywood = 4 and 5 boards
Brandon Wright = 4 and 2 boards
Jawad Williams = 4 and 2 boards
Jerry Stackhouse = 2 and 1 board
Duke:
Carlos Boozer = 18 and 10 boards
Luol Deng = 17 and 6 boards
Elton Brand = 15 and 8 boards
Gerald Henderson = 14 and 5 boards
Grant Hill = 13 and 4 boards
Corey Maggette = 12 and 4 boards
Mike Dunleavy = 11 and 5 boards
JJ Redick = 10 and 2 dimes
Shane Battier = 8 and 5 boards
Josh McRoberts = 7 and 5 boards
Dahntay Jones = 6 and 2 boards
Shelden Williams = 5 and 5 boards
Chris Duhon = 3 and 2 dimes
They don't even have the best stable in their state? Try again.
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kix4kix wrote:
SmoothBalla wrote:
ATGD7154xBBxMZ wrote:
I'd look at any college team that produced more superstars. Duke has produced none.
I don't follow your argument because it went from "Duke's track record is horrible" to "Duke has produced (no superstars)."
I asked, "which college program has produced a better stable of talent in the NBA?" I didn't ask, "which college program has produced more superstars?"
When you use "track record," you automatically incorporate historical consistency. And history indicates that Duke is just as good, if not better, at consistently producing NBA talent in comparison to other college programs.
However, since you'd like to use "track record" as an indicator with "superstar" as the outcome...
What college program do you know of has a "track record" of producing "superstar" talent?
Because I don't know any college programs that have been consistent in producing "superstar" talent in recent memory seeing as though the NBA is dominated by players drafted from high school and overseas.
And I'll define "superstar" as a player possessing "MVP or All-NBA team type talent":
Marquette has produced Dwyane Wade (25 ppg), Wesley Mathews (13), Lazar Hayward (4), Steve Novak (4), and Travis Diener (no longer in the NBA). That would be 1 superstar.A good example is Wake Forest: Tim Duncan (21 ppg), Chris Paul (19), Josh Howard (15), Darius Songalia (7), Al-Farouq Aminu (6), James Johnson (5), Jeff Teague (4), and Ishmael Smith (2). That is two superstars mixed with several serviceable players.For comparison, Duke: Elton Brand (19 ppg), Grant Hill (1, Gerald Henderson (7), Chris Duhon (7), Dahntay Jones (6), Josh McRoberts (5), Shelden Williams (5). Brand (2nd), Hill (1st), and Boozer (3rd) have been All-NBA with the rest being serviceable. I'd stack Duke's alumni against any other college program in recent memory.Once again...
What college program do you know of that has a "track record" of producing "superstar" talent?
And if/when you reply, I'd like to see your definition of "superstar."
Before anyone starts defining superstar, Imma need you to define talent. You would take dukes "stable" of talent before any other program in recent memory?
NT slays me sometimes, it really does. They don't even have the best "stable" in their state.
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Talent? How about "a person possessing an above average ability." Point blank, it takes talent to make the NBA.
And why are you even quoting "stable." That term isn't open to interpretation.
I have no problem saying UNC > Duke if you want to factor in all-time alumni into the equation (as well as a few other programs) but that's not what this argument is about. Hence, the use of the term recent memory and the inclusion of the college programs current alumni list.
This past year...
UNC:
Antawn Jamison = 18 and 7 boards
Raymond Felton = 16 and 8 dimes
Vince Carter = 14 and 4 boards
Ty Lawson = 12 and 5 dimes
Tyler Hansbrough = 11 and 5 boards
Marvin Williams = 10 and 5 boards
Ed Davis = 8 and 5 boards
Wayne Ellington = 7 and 2 boards
Danny Green = 5 and 2 boards
Brendan Haywood = 4 and 5 boards
Brandon Wright = 4 and 2 boards
Jawad Williams = 4 and 2 boards
Jerry Stackhouse = 2 and 1 board
Duke:
Carlos Boozer = 18 and 10 boards
Luol Deng = 17 and 6 boards
Elton Brand = 15 and 8 boards
Gerald Henderson = 14 and 5 boards
Grant Hill = 13 and 4 boards
Corey Maggette = 12 and 4 boards
Mike Dunleavy = 11 and 5 boards
JJ Redick = 10 and 2 dimes
Shane Battier = 8 and 5 boards
Josh McRoberts = 7 and 5 boards
Dahntay Jones = 6 and 2 boards
Shelden Williams = 5 and 5 boards
Chris Duhon = 3 and 2 dimes
They don't even have the best stable in their state? Try again.
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why do yall dismiss CP3 shooting prowess like that???
only nash and curry are better in percentages across the board
only nash and curry are better in percentages across the board
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why do yall dismiss CP3 shooting prowess like that???
only nash and curry are better in percentages across the board
only nash and curry are better in percentages across the board
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I'll take the Bucks...
Duke's "stable" is currently much better, just fact.
Duke's "stable" is currently much better, just fact.
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I'll take the Bucks...
Duke's "stable" is currently much better, just fact.
Duke's "stable" is currently much better, just fact.
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Billups should move up a group, as well as CP3, Rose should probably move up 2 imo
and unless one of their fans comes in and really wants it for the draft ill take...
1. Kings
2. Pistons
since Knicks are taken
EDIT: didnt see that SacTown was taken. I'll take Detroit unless a die hard Pistons fan really wants to take them from me
