***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[biggie62]

Time for another career change

 

[MalcolmNewton]

 

[aepps20]

Libs laughing about the space force but won't be laughing when E.T. and da goons smack you down for being a Lib.

 

[gry60]

Illegal (really improper) entry is a crime

This is an incomplete thought.
Illegal entry is a misdemeanor that can be pardoned (waived) if the people committing it can prove that they had a valid reason to bypass the entry process (visa application, interview, decision).

People are not taking you seriously here because rather than accept what is, you choose to create your version of reality and push it here.

The status of refugee is internationally recognized and protected by international agreements this country signed onto, and your argument is trying to suggest that there is no difference between a repeat offender, a drug smuggler/human trafficker, and somebody fleeing violence and persecution (all who enter here illegally are criminals, regardless of their reasons for doing so).

You are defending inhumane practices, and that's quite despicable.

 

[getback]

There are tons of cases where people are arrested and their kids are left without parents and they have no idea the parents were arrested. Many end up on the streets and in awful situations pending the adjudication of their parent(s)’s case.

The difference being If that does happen and children are left behind, it's unintentional. Whereas at the border, what's occurring is completely intentional and deliberate. There's no effort to preserve the family. It's the opposite.

In social work, removing children from the home and/or not keeping the family together is the last resort and worst case scenario. At the border, it's the first thing they're doing.

That's why the NASW and essentially every major health organization has denounced whatever the f**k they're trying to do at the borders.

 

[gry60]

So Kobach is trying to steal elections, huh?

http://amp.kansascity.com/latest-news/article216397410.html

The gap between Gov. Jeff Colyer and Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach narrowed to roughly 100 votes on Thursday as the rival Republicans began to show signs that the election may ultimately be decided in a courthouse.

Colyer released a letter at 5 p.m. Thursday calling on Kobach to recuse himself from providing advice to local election officials. The letter comes after multiple counties reported that the election night totals on the secretary of state’s website were inaccurate, further clouding the results of a historically close election.

“It has come to my attention that your office is giving advice to county election officials — as recently as a conference call yesterday — and you are making public statements on national television which are inconsistent with Kansas law and may serve to suppress the vote in the ongoing primary election process,” Colyer said in a letter.

Colyer’s campaign spokesman, Kendall Marr, explained in a phone call that the campaign has heard that Kobach’s office has told county clerks to disregard ballots with a smudged postmark. Marr said that ballots received before a Friday deadline need to be counted.

The call for recusal was Colyer’s biggest shot at Kobach since Tuesday’s primary ended without a clear result. Neither Kobach’s campaign, nor office immediately responded to Colyer’s letter.

Around the same time news broke that Colyer received 100 more votes in a western Kansas county than previously reported, the governor’s campaign announced the establishment of a voter integrity hotline. Hours later, additional counties reported that votes had been incorrectly reported on Tuesday.

 

[IATT]

 

[elpablo21]

 

[Deleted member 42060]

 

[IATT]

 

[gry60]

3.7 billion in cuts to education but wants an army corps of astronauts.

I wonder what it's gonna be like to reach peak stupidity.

 

[blastercombo]

The difference being If that does happen and children are left behind, it's unintentional. Whereas at the border, what's occurring is completely intentional and deliberate. There's no effort to preserve the family. It's the opposite.

In social work, removing children from the home and/or not keeping the family together is the last resort and worst case scenario. At the border, it's the first thing they're doing.

That's why the NASW and essentially every major health organization has denounced whatever the f**k they're trying to do at the borders.

He made a baseless statement without any actual knowledge of how the process works. No surprise here


I’m guess he’ll pull the “agree to disagree” ON A FACT

 

[blastercombo]

3.7 billion in cuts to education but wants an army corps of astronauts.

I wonder what it's gonna be like to reach peak stupidity.

Here’s the kicker, with education In the trash who will be able to join this BS?

 

[MalcolmNewton]

3.7 billion in cuts to education but wants an army corps of astronauts.

I wonder what it's gonna be like to reach peak stupidity.

Ask for 8 bill of tax payers money but has yet to tell them exactly what this space force’s mission is specifically supposed to accomplish. But it sounds cool to MAGGOTS so oh well.

 

[blastercombo]

You guys are CRAZY....



Mexico will pay for it. Trust me, THE BEST negotiator

 

[HIM]

in all seriousness
folks making jokes
but must be a reason we need a space force
whats on the dark side of the moon
what hostile alien species did trump find out about
that the government been hiding
that we dont know about
yall all gonna be thanking him later
for having the foresight
to have the space force

When you put it li
ke this I kind of th
ink Im gonna haveto v
ote for him in 2020 because your absol
utely right about us not even kn
owing what else is out there t
hat may wa
nt to harm us

 

[130122]

I used to be an alien theorist until I truly began to think how stupid it sounds. If there were aliens in outer space, why would they ever bother earth? and if they are indeed coming to earth, what on god's green earth is stopping them from straight up death starring us from across the galaxy. If we can't even land on mars in 2018 we aint stopping no damb aliens

 

[Deleted member 42060]

www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ny-news-trump-migrant-children-separated-20180809-story.html

 

[Deleted member 42060]

www.nydailynews.com/opinion/ny-edit-immigration-20180809-story.html

 

[gry60]

Here’s the kicker, with education I the trash who will be able to join this BS?

Space cadets.

 

[frink85]

Here’s the kicker, with education I the trash who will be able to join this BS?

I’m sure they got coal mines in space, B

 

[Nike Jordan]

I wonder what it's gonna be like to reach peak stupidity.

The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits.

 

[130122]

I’m sure they got coal mines in space, B

Armaggedon really forshadowed everything b

 

[Belgium]

Excerpt:
On Tuesday, one of Mr. Manafort’s lawyers asked Mr. Gates, who pleaded guilty this year to two felony charges and has since been cooperating with prosecutors, whether he had been “interviewed by other members of the Office of Special Counsel about the Trump campaign.”

When Mr. Gates answered yes, the lawyer, Kevin Downing, continued: “And were you interviewed on several occasions about your time at the Trump campaign?”

Prosecutors then objected, and Judge Ellis called both sides to the bench to discuss the line of questioning out of the jury’s hearing.

In their motion, prosecutors argued that disclosing what was said would “reveal substantive evidence pertaining to an ongoing investigation.” They added, “Sealing will minimize any risk of prejudice from the disclosure of new information relating to that ongoing investigation.”

In his order, Judge Ellis agreed to seal those six pages of a 262-page transcript of the day’s proceedings “until the relevant aspect of the investigation is revealed publicly, if that were to occur.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/09/us/politics/special-counsel-manafort-trial.html
Special Counsel Is Granted Request to Keep Inquiry Details Private
The federal judge overseeing the trial of Paul Manafort sealed a transcript on Thursday of a private discussion in front of his bench after prosecutors from the special counsel’s office argued that they needed to protect an “ongoing investigation.”

The conversation concerned whether investigators had questioned Rick Gates, the government’s star witness and Mr. Manafort’s longtime deputy, about the Trump campaign.

Prosecutors argued that they needed to protect the secrecy of their inquiry — though they did not specify the Russia investigation — and limit the “disclosure of new information.” The judge, T. S. Ellis III, ruled in their favor.

Mr. Gates is the most important witness so far to testify against Mr. Manafort, who faces 18 charges of tax and bank fraud. Mr. Gates served as the Trump campaign’s deputy chairman under Mr. Manafort. After Mr. Manafort was forced out as the campaign’s chairman in August 2016, Mr. Gates became its liaison to the Republican National Committee.

The fraud charges against Mr. Manafort are not related to the campaign or Russia’s interference in the 2016 presidential election. The special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, sought Mr. Manafort’s indictment using his authority to investigate evidence that arises of other crimes during their investigation. Prosecutors have avoided any mention of the broader inquiry since the trial began nine days ago in Alexandria, Va.

But Mr. Manafort’s lawyers have tried to edge in that direction, possibly in the hope that jurors will see their client as a victim of a politically inspired vendetta. President Trump routinely calls Mr. Mueller’s investigation “a witch hunt” aimed at him and those who helped him win the White House and has suggested Mr. Mueller’s team has treated Mr. Manafort far too harshly.

On Tuesday, one of Mr. Manafort’s lawyers asked Mr. Gates, who pleaded guilty this year to two felony charges and has since been cooperating with prosecutors, whether he had been “interviewed by other members of the Office of Special Counsel about the Trump campaign.”

When Mr. Gates answered yes, the lawyer, Kevin Downing, continued: “And were you interviewed on several occasions about your time at the Trump campaign?”

Prosecutors then objected, and Judge Ellis called both sides to the bench to discuss the line of questioning out of the jury’s hearing.

In their motion, prosecutors argued that disclosing what was said would “reveal substantive evidence pertaining to an ongoing investigation.” They added, “Sealing will minimize any risk of prejudice from the disclosure of new information relating to that ongoing investigation.”

In his order, Judge Ellis agreed to seal those six pages of a 262-page transcript of the day’s proceedings “until the relevant aspect of the investigation is revealed publicly, if that were to occur.”

Prosecutors plan to wrap up their case Friday. Lawyers for both sides are planning to meet with the judge then to discuss instructions to the jury, a possible sign that the defense may call few, if any, witnesses.

So far Mr. Manafort’s lawyers have largely focused on attacking Mr. Gates’s credibility. On the stand, he acknowledged he had committed a host of crimes, including lying to federal investigators.

Judge Ellis also corrected a mistake he admitted making earlier in the trial yesterday.

 

[Based Jesus]

Judge Ellis also corrected a mistake he admitted making earlier in the trial yesterday.

"Probably"? Fam that aint an apology.