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Not exactly what you wanna hear coming off last nights gains >D

Getting hamstrung trying to play by the rules against folks who gleefully tear up and burn the rulebook every chance they get will never be it or a road map to victory, imo. Trying to appeal to folks moral sensibilities hasn't exactly translated to many tangible W's lately,2 felons and a dead pimp just won races ffs :rofl:
 
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But that storyline could come roaring back any day now. Mueller might submit a final report on his investigation to the Justice Department at any point in the coming months, and he could also bring dramatic new indictments that would thrust the Russia probe back into national headlines. Trump’s son, Donald Trump Jr., who served as a key campaign surrogate for Republican candidates, has told friends in recent weeks that he believes he could be indicted, according to one of those people.

White House chief of staff John Kelly and former White House counsel McGahn have implored the president to wait until Mueller issues his report to fire Attorney General Jeff Sessions and clean house at the Justice Department. To that end, they have reassured Trump that the report will be a “nothing burger,” in the words of a former White House official, though it’s unclear whether they were expressing their unvarnished views about the forthcoming report or merely trying to prevent the president from compounding the damage by firing Sessions. Others in the president’s legal orbit, meanwhile, have warned it’s unlikely the Mueller team would toil for so long without issuing a damaging report.

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One thing is clear, aides say: As he barrels towards November 2020, Trump will be operating with less restraint than ever. McGahn’s departure has created a temporary vacuum in the White House counsel's office and left the West Wing bereft of a strong voice to remind the president of the constitutional parameters of his job.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/11/07/trump-2020-elections-campaign-968942
Trump turns his attention to his own political survival
With the midterms behind him, Trump dives into a re-election campaign facing a Democratic House, political gridlock — and special counsel Robert Mueller's Russia probe.
As president Donald Trump absorbed Tuesday night’s mixed election returns, two key allies were by his side in the White House: one of his 2016 campaign managers, Corey Lewandowski, and the man who will run his 2020 re-election bid, Brad Parscale.

The two men attended what the White House billed as a midterm watch party. But the presence of Lewandowski and Parscale underscored that it may have more accurately been described as the unofficial kickoff of Trump’s 2020 campaign. As guests snacked on hamburgers and hot dogs, the president was surrounded not just by the political aides who will orchestrate the effort but also by some of the donors expected to underwrite it, including Las Vegas casino magnate Sheldon Adelson, Marvel Entertainment CEO Ike Perlmutter, and fracking billionaire Harold Hamm.

Starting Wednesday, Trump — who has already spent the past several weeks firing up crowds of supporters — will turn his full attention to his own 2020 re-election campaign, which aides and associates say will be close to all-consuming over the next two years.

“The re-elect begins today,” said Brian Walsh, President of the pro-Trump America First Action super PAC: "It’s all in and all on the line.”

With divided government making further legislative accomplishments almost impossible, they predict Trump will leverage the full power and pomp of the White House behind his own political survival. And while Tuesday’s results may have been bruising, in historical terms they are far from a re-election death sentence: Both Presidents Bill Clinton and Barack Obama rebounded from even worse midterm results in their first terms to be comfortably re-elected two years later.

Trump’s 2020 effort is poised to swing into gear almost immediately, with the RNC redirecting its infrastructure to assist the Trump re-elect and its political director Chris Carr. RNC officials say that a massive midterm mobilization effort — in which the party invested over $275 million in its field, digital and data programs, and recruited hundreds of field staffers — was a dress rehearsal for the 2020 campaign. Once the Trump campaign, overseen by Parscale, melds with RNC, the result will be a nearly $400 million behemoth focused on the next election 726 days from Wednesday.

In another sign of the shift in Trump’s focus, several top White House aides are expected to depart soon for the reelection campaign. They include political director Bill Stepien and Justin Clark, who oversees the office of intergovernmental affairs.

Although Tuesday’s results were less damaging than the White House had feared — Republicans outperformed expectations in Senate races, picking up several seats — Trump’s advisers privately conceded they had to find ways to improve the president’s standing with suburban and women voters. As of Tuesday evening, Republicans had lost upwards of 27 House seats largely owing to the party’s underperformance in educated, suburban districts where the president will need to make inroads.

But GOP victories in some major states vital to Trump’s 2020 prospects boosted his team’s confidence. One of president's closest congressional allies, Ron DeSantis, will become Florida’s governor, and the GOP candidate, Mike DeWine, prevailed over Democrat Richard Cordray in the Ohio governor's race. On Tuesday night, Trump aides cited those outcomes as examples of why their path to 270 electoral votes remains intact.

Victories from pals like DeSantis helped to buoy the spirits of the president, who had been consumed by fears that he would be roundly blamed for across-the-board defeats. One even aide called the mood “buoyant" -- though it is likely to turn combative once Trump focuses on his House Democratic adversaries, who will soon be armed with subpoena power.

If Trump manufactured enemies in the run-up to the midterms, from a migrant caravan full of “criminals and unknown Middle Easterners” to Democrats who “run around like Antifa” before going “back home into mommy’s basement,” he will now face real-life foils.

One of them is Nancy Pelosi, likely to be elected House speaker when Democrats hold leadership elections next month, and who pledged in triumphant remarks Tuesday night to “drain the swamp” of Trump’s Washington.

Then there is perhaps the greatest wildcard for Trump’s re-election prospects: special counsel Robert Mueller, whose probe of 2016 Russian election interference could bring more dramatic indictments and a potentially damning final report. His presence, Trump allies said, looms larger than ever in the president's mind. Trump officials have been enjoying a relatively quiet phase for Mueller’s probe ahead of the midterm elections. “I've hardly heard the words "Russian collusion" all night,” White House counselor Kellyanne Conway boasted to reporters Tuesday.

But that storyline could come roaring back any day now. Mueller might submit a final report on his investigation to the Justice Department at any point in the coming months, and he could also bring dramatic new indictments that would thrust the Russia probe back into national headlines. Trump’s son, Donald Trump Jr., who served as a key campaign surrogate for Republican candidates, has told friends in recent weeks that he believes he could be indicted, according to one of those people.

White House chief of staff John Kelly and former White House counsel McGahn have implored the president to wait until Mueller issues his report to fire Attorney General Jeff Sessions and clean house at the Justice Department. To that end, they have reassured Trump that the report will be a “nothing burger,” in the words of a former White House official, though it’s unclear whether they were expressing their unvarnished views about the forthcoming report or merely trying to prevent the president from compounding the damage by firing Sessions. Others in the president’s legal orbit, meanwhile, have warned it’s unlikely the Mueller team would toil for so long without issuing a damaging report.

Trump had turned his attention to these new foes even before the votes were counted on Tuesday, using the prospect of a Pelosi speakership to incentivize the voters who turned out to his campaign rallies: “If you don’t want to be saying the words, ‘Ladies and Gentleman, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi’ for the next two years, you gotta get out tomorrow” and vote, Trump told a crowd in Indiana on Monday.

A Democrat-controlled House also dims the prospects that the White House will successfully spearhead any major legislative initiatives in the next two years — and increases the chances the White House will focus more on politics than policy.

Given the bitter polarization of Washington, aides are privately bearish about making headway even on bipartisan initiatives like infrastructure and criminal justice reform. They also say that Trump, who had little patience with Congress to begin with and preferred from the outset to do things unilaterally, has accomplished much of what he could have hoped to do by executive order, from establishing an ill-fated commission on election integrity to targeting China with steep tariffs.

Stalemate in Congress could make Trump spent more time on foreign policy, in the hope of securing re-election bragging points like progress toward the denuclearization of North Korea and a potential trade deal with China.

One thing is clear, aides say: As he barrels towards November 2020, Trump will be operating with less restraint than ever. McGahn’s departure has created a temporary vacuum in the White House counsel's office and left the West Wing bereft of a strong voice to remind the president of the constitutional parameters of his job. It is unclear how much longer Kelly will remain in his job. Parscale, who will guide his 2020 campaign, is a relative political neophyte who has never had a political client other than Trump.

That could leave a president who seems reluctant to acknowledge the possibility of defeat insulated from warning signs about his prospects for re-election. Even as Democrats rejoiced over their capture of the House Tuesday night, Trump sounded a very different note."Tremendous success tonight,” he tweeted. “Thank you to all!"
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Why is POTUS suddenly citing the Fake News Media, the Enemy of the People?

And why is he ignoring the polls that say nobody likes his ***?

 
I think Beto losing is the best/worst thing that could have happened to him. Sucks that his lost the race and old spinless will continue to serve. But this guy gained a HUGE national following. I really think he has a series shot in 2020. If his popularity continues that cannot be ignored. At this point I can't think of any other dem that can match his popularity. A Beto/Gillum ticket would be unstoppable
 
rolaholic said:
Probably some silly constitutional thing about separation of church and state or something...
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But its an option correct? Not a requirement? And the society we live in is built on the ten commandments, is it not? And what/s wrong with more babies being born?
 
rolaholic said:
The Murdoch/Koch propaganda machine over the past 2 decades has made that damn near impossible at this point. Even when actual conservatives break ranks and talk straight they're immediately dismissed as undercover Libs/RINO's spreading fake news
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And they get primaried.
 
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