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gry60 said:
Anyone who does it consistently will see their access to the WH revoked.
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1. Any journalist who does that will get props, respect, and a bigger following. Hell ill throw in a few bucks to them.

2. Everything coming out of anyone in that admin bottom to top is a lie/BS anyway, no big loss.

I watch the local news every day different hours and I change the channel when it gets to national politics. If a channel decided to boycott the Trump admin, I'd be all over that.
 
spiceman80 said:
And the reporters speak with Trump on the south lawn, none of them will call him out on that. This might be asking a lot, but can't they go there prepared with the evidence of him saying on more than one occasion along with Mike Pompeo? It is getting so frustrating seeing them lob those softball questions with little to no follow up when he goes off on tangents. Hold his feet to the fire and expose his lies, along with the rest of his administration. Am I bugging here or what?
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Will say one thing as I’m doing business travel today. Security seems a bit tighter here in NYC. More than normal amount of armed personnel.
 
Unlike Congressional subpoenas, state prosecutors are making use of a grand jury. That also means any documents obtained would be covered by grand jury secrecy laws.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/16/nyregion/trump-tax-returns-cy-vance.html
8 Years of Trump Tax Returns Are Subpoenaed by Manhattan D.A.
Investigators demanded the president’s personal and corporate tax returns as they examine hush money paid to Stormy Daniels.

State prosecutors in Manhattan have subpoenaed President Trump’s accounting firm to demand eight years of his personal and corporate tax returns, according to several people with knowledge of the matter.

The subpoena opens a new front in a wide-ranging effort to obtain copies of the president’s tax returns, which Mr. Trump initially said he would make public during the 2016 campaign but has since refused to disclose.

The subpoena was issued by the Manhattan district attorney’s office late last month, soon after it opened a criminal investigation into the role that the president and his family business played in hush-money payments made in the run-up to the election.

Both Mr. Trump and his company reimbursed Michael D. Cohen, the president’s former lawyer and fixer, for money Mr. Cohen paid to buy the silence of Stormy Daniels, a pornographic film actress who said she had an affair with Mr. Trump. The president has denied the affair.
It was unclear if the broad scope of the subpoena indicated that the office had expanded its investigation beyond actions taken during the 2016 campaign. A spokesman for the Manhattan district attorney, Cyrus R. Vance Jr., declined to comment.

The state prosecutors are seeking a range of tax documents from the accounting firm, Mazars USA, including Mr. Trump’s personal returns and those of his business, the Trump Organization. The subpoena seeks federal and state returns for both the president and the company dating back to 2011, the people said.

The investigation by Mr. Vance has been focused on $130,000 that Mr. Cohen paid Ms. Daniels, whose legal name is Stephanie Clifford, just before the election. Mr. Cohen pleaded guilty last year to breaking federal campaign finance laws and received a three-year prison sentence.

While the federal prosecutors who charged Mr. Cohen stated in a court filing in July that they had “effectively concluded” their inquiry into possible crimes committed by the company or its executives, Mr. Vance’s office is exploring whether the reimbursements violated any New York state laws.

In particular, the state prosecutors are examining whether the company falsely accounted for the reimbursements as a legal expense. In New York, filing a false business record can be a crime.

But it becomes a felony only if prosecutors can prove that the false filing was made to commit or conceal another crime, such as tax violations or bank fraud. The tax returns and other documents sought from Mazars could shed light on whether any state laws were broken. Such subpoenas also routinely request related documents in connection with the returns.

Democrats have insisted for years that Mr. Trump release his tax returns, which every modern presidential nominee has done before him. They contend that the president may be trying to conceal details of his actual financial worth, the source of his wealth and possible conflicts of interest involving his business partners.

Congressional Democrats have taken an aggressive approach, subpoenaing six years of Mr. Trump’s tax returns from the Treasury Department, as well as personal and corporate financial records from Deutsche Bank, Capital One and Mazars USA.

The president has fought back to keep his finances under wraps, challenging the subpoenas in federal court. He has also sued to block a New York state law, passed this year, that authorized state officials to provide his state tax returns in response to certain congressional inquiries. By tying up the requests in court, Mr. Trump’s team has made it diminishingly likely that Democrats in Washington will get the chance to review them before the election next year.

But it may be more difficult to fend off a subpoena in a criminal investigation with a sitting grand jury, as there is in Manhattan. It is possible the Trump Organization could try to negotiate with the district attorney’s office to narrow the scope of the subpoena.

Jay Sekulow, a lawyer for Mr. Trump, and Marc L. Mukasey, a lawyer for the Trump Organization, both declined to comment.

Asked whether the company would seek to quash the subpoena, Mazars USA said in a statement that it “will respect the legal process and fully comply with its legal obligations,” adding that the company was prohibited by its policy and professional rules from commenting on its work. The statement, however, did not directly address whether the company might take any legal action to block the subpoena.

Even if the Manhattan district attorney’s office is successful in obtaining the president’s tax returns, the documents would be covered by secrecy rules governing grand juries, meaning they would not become public unless they were used as evidence in a criminal case.

At the beginning of August, the state prosecutors also subpoenaed the Trump Organization, seeking documents related to the payment to Ms. Daniels and the reimbursement to Mr. Cohen. With few legal options, the Trump Organization has been complying with that subpoena.

Still, the company has derided the investigation by Mr. Vance, a Democrat, as politically motivated.

“It’s just harassment of the president, his family and his business, using subpoenas as weapons,” Mr. Mukasey said last month.

As part of its investigation, prosecutors from Mr. Vance’s office visited Mr. Cohen in prison in Otisville, N.Y., to seek assistance with their investigation, according to people briefed on the meeting, which was first reported by CNN.

Mr. Cohen also helped arrange for American Media Inc., the publisher of The National Enquirer, to pay Karen McDougal, a Playboy model who also said she had an affair with the president. Prosecutors in the district attorney’s office subpoenaed American Media in early August, as well as at least one bank.

The investigation is not the first time Mr. Vance’s office has focused on members of the Trump family or its business. In 2012, his office declined to charge two of Mr. Trump’s children, Ivanka Trump and Donald Trump Jr., in an investigation into whether they misled buyers interested in the Trump SoHo hotel-condominium project, a decision that resulted in criticism of Mr. Vance.
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Dearborn is the WH official who was asked by Corey Lewandowski to pressure Sessions into obstructing the Mueller investigation on behalf of Trump. Within days after Trump's botched attempt to fire Mueller without just cause, Lewandowski was called to the Oval Office for a private meeting. Trump dictated a message for Lewandowski to deliver to Sessions, stating that Sessions would publicly declare how unfair the investigation was to Trump and that he would be limiting the scope of Mueller's authority to "future election interference only", thereby blocking Mueller from investigating Russian election interference in 2016, Trump's campaign and of course the president himself.
Lewandowski stalled on the order and Trump had a follow-up meeting 1 month later, where Lewandowski told Trump he hadn't delivered the message yet.
When Lewandowski left, he tried to enlist Rick Dearborn to deliver the message instead, who disregarded the request for obvious reasons. Within hours after the meeting, Trump publicly berated Sessions again for his recusal and his refusal to reverse that recusal.
 
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