***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[RustyShackleford]

It's funny to watch born-again Christians rock clothing designed by gay people talmbout "I'm getting fly for Jeeesus!"

Going to church every Sunday to speak against the gay agenda, smelling of Tom Ford cologne.

 

[gry60]

Black immigrants that dont even identify as African Americans and could careless about our fight !

I didn't know that cops in America asked for ID and ancestry info before gunning you down. Amadou Diallo ring a bell?

 

[RustyShackleford]

I didn't know that cops in America asked for ID and ancestry info before gunning you down. Amadou Diallo ring a bell?

I am sure if Botham Jean told that cop he was from St Lucia, she would not have gunned him down also.

Like I said, their are differences between the ethnic groups in the black community, but in America every black person lives under the system of white suprremacy. It is ridiculous to act like black immigrants just come to America and take advantage of the situation.

Being from the islands has never stopped a cop from stopping and frisking me when I live in NYC.

 

[noskey]

Going to church every Sunday to speak against the gay agenda, smelling of Tom Ford cologne.

Tom Ford fragrances are fire. That sexual fluidity smells delightful.

 

[Belgium]

 

[RustyShackleford]

Welp, I know what I am getting aepps20 for X-Mas

 

[whywesteppin]

Welp, I know what I am getting aepps20 for X-Mas

I guess he's getting two then.

 

[plansb]

slam dunk for whoever get aepps20 in the nt secret santa. That orange makeup with a bag of beautiful coal

 

[aepps20]

BX Colors is all I want NT Santa. Will accent my Coal dust Zaddy appeal

 

[Brownstone]

I had some very bad views and I am still learning. For instance, two or three years ago, I did not know or care too much about US foreign policy and since then, I learned the extent that it is shaped by white supremacy. That’s why I have the views I have on the recent situation in Bolivia.

Now I’ve never called you a racist. I have said that you should be weary of things that the British empire (whataboutism) and American empires (this latest military take over in Latin America was not a right wing coup) say. I know that I still discover the finger prints of white supremacy on all sorts of things from spread sheets to freeways.

An observation then a question.....First, While I def agree with your first paragraph and your experience mirrors mine in the sense that I devalued Foreign Policy for much of my early adulthood-this despite working on several congressional campaigns. I do think Americans in general undermine the importance of US foreign policy, specifically it's importance both historically and in the now to our domestic lives. I think this mainly has to do with Americans being isolationists by nature, but also in part to Americans dislike of history combined with short term memories. Slavery? Happened years ago etc.... Not sure what sparked your turn around but I blame my foreign friends, I was embarrassed by how much more they knew about American intervention and how it shaped our current world than I did.

Now to the second paragraph, what do you mean about white Supremacy in Spreadsheets? Did you mean that literally?

 

[nawghtyhare]

Ay dwalk31 yall care about kids now right?

What about Chicago

 

[Belgium]

 

[IATT]

 

[IATT]

 

[noskey]

Rudy knows what needs to be done. He obtained da Civility Gauntlet, and is about to save humanity by snapping half the government out of jobs.

The last words on his giant iPad text message display to Fox News:
"I'm sorry, little Don"
As he presses send on an email addressed to Nancy Nancy, containing the trove of 'insurance' documents unraveling the entire Russian kompromat conspiracy. Einhorn was Finkle; Rudy was Whistleblower!

 

[IATT]

 

[mister friendly]

That’s my candidate.

 

[rexanglorum]

An observation then a question.....First, While I def agree with your first paragraph and your experience mirrors mine in the sense that I devalued Foreign Policy for much of my early adulthood-this despite working on several congressional campaigns. I do think Americans in general undermine the importance of US foreign policy, specifically it's importance both historically and in the now to our domestic lives. I think this mainly has to do with Americans being isolationists by nature, but also in part to Americans dislike of history combined with short term memories. Slavery? Happened years ago etc.... Not sure what sparked your turn around but I blame my foreign friends, I was embarrassed by how much more they knew about American intervention and how it shaped our current world than I did.

Now to the second paragraph, what do you mean about white Supremacy in Spreadsheets? Did you mean that literally?

As far as Spreadsheets are concerned, don't worry, MS Excel is cool. Spreadsheets are not white supremacist in nature. I read the 1619 project and the argument was that the conventional narrative was that modern, American capitalism and its data driven administrative style was rooted in the expansion of railroads after the Civil war. The 1619 project argues that intensely data driven methods of business administration have their roots in the King Cotton era of 1830-1860 in the effort to monitor the daily output of enslaved people in the cotton plantations.

When it comes to foreign policy. It became more important to me due to things I learned recently and things that I learned a while ago.

About 18 years ago, I read James Loewen's "Lies My Teacher Told Me" and he argued than rather being motived by some romantic love of adventure, US foreign policy and its desire to expand westward was driven by the need for slave power to make it more difficult for enslaved people who were attempting to escape bondage. The decision to not support the slave rebellion in Haiti, the Louisiana purchase, the War of 1812, the annexation of Florida, the Annexation of Texas, the War of 1848 and the decision not to outright Annex all of Mexico were all animated by slave holder interests.

Much more recently. My favorite leftist podcasts convinced be that foreign policy is a realm of class struggle. The events in Brazil in 2016-2018, Venezuela from 2002 to today and Bolivia this year were all part of the struggle between socialism and capitalism, a capitalism which is inexorably linked to white supremacy. The struggles in Yemen, Iraq, Afghanistan and the Kurdish regions of Syria show us that foreign policy is part and parcel of domestic policy and when seen through that lens, one should see no distinction between our classicist and racist domestic policy and our foreign policy.

I do not blame most Americans for not caring about foreign policy. The US is hegemonic and our territorial integrity is not under any sort of threat. Economic issues like trade wars affect certain groups intensely but not the average American. Most citizens of most countries care about foreign policy because their day--day material interests are closely tied to their country's foreign policy.

 

[Belgium]

Russia, if you’re listening...

 

[rexanglorum]

I am sure that I come across as crazy and bellicose but my students and my nieces and nephews find me weak and cowardly. The zoomers want to fight, those born between '97 and '04 were never exposed to the end of history narrative. All they know is that capital is eating workers and the only logical response is to eat capital.

The kids approach me because I'm the cool communist professor/uncle. They seek me out wanting permission to go crazy. I'm flattered that they seek my counsel but they are disappointed when I tell them to get good grades and to vote for Bernie and maybe knock on doors if they are old enough to vote in 2020. It's funny when they say that their moms and dads are "**** libs" because they are deciding between Sanders and Warren in 2020.

I try to tell them that when I was their age or close to their age, We were having to decide between two very similar neolibs (Gore or Clinton, Kerry or Gore) but they barely listen. They are influenced by breadtube and the leftist podcast sphere. In their minds, any one who doesn't burn it all to the ground is a collaborator.

 

[dwalk31]

Honestly **** that whole family, baron’s punk *** too.

Wow

 

[PatRiley]

 

[aepps20]

You defended Roy Moore pal.

 

[dwalk31]

You defended Roy Moore pal.

I defended due process, pal.

 

[aepps20]

I defended due process, pal.

Easy there fella, with the warmest regards and kindest respects, you supported Roy Moore. You defended him more than Trump which says something. No one is falling for your due process scam when you are awfully quiet when people that look like you aren't afforded due process. I never see you in those threads but the moment a DEPLORABLE is in trouble you put on the cape. Have a great day.