The Combat Jack Show Thread

[wavycrocket]

hey im future
i stopped doing drugs
but dont wanna tell my fans
so i can keep up the persona
this is worse than the ross/co situation imo
and nobody calling him out on it
or did joe speak on it???
wont hear the last pod till tues

Context. I mean, at the end of the day...he DID tell his fans about it. And we still **** with the music. It’s also flat out honesty. You know about this because he expressed his apprehension to that. In the context...it makes sense that he would be apprehensive about it. Considering he literally came in the game with “Dirty Sprite”. I mean...I can understand where he’s coming from. You got fans stupidly believing Gucci Mane is a F’n clone .

The aesthetic was tied to Futures music. And it’s understabdable how music is recieved based on perception. He done told his fans he put the cup down. It’s reflected on his new album. And ****** still enjoy it.

That’s growth.

 

[Magic33]

Context. I mean, at the end of the day...he DID tell his fans about it. And we still **** with the music. It’s also flat out honesty. You know about this because he expressed his apprehension to that. In the context...it makes sense that he would be apprehensive about it. Considering he literally came in the game with “Dirty Sprite”. I mean...I can understand where he’s coming from. You got fans stupidly believing Gucci Mane is a F’n clone .

The aesthetic was tied to Futures music. And it’s understabdable how music is recieved based on perception. He done told his fans he put the cup down. It’s reflected on his new album. And ****** still enjoy it.

That’s growth.

Growth is telling your fans the dangers and why they shouldn't do it. Why you're not doing it.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

Criticizing a rapper for not telling his fans he stopped doing a drug is the smallest **** to nitpick. If Future is the deciding factor in your kid sippin lean your kid is f'ed. People (old and young) should already know they sippin heroin.

 

[nawghtyhare]

Criticizing a rapper for not telling his fans he stopped doing a drug is the smallest **** to nitpick

not necessarily criticizing for not telling his fans
more like his reasoning
on why he said he didnt wanna tell his fans

 

[Magic33]

Joe joking his name is wild.

Then you see his high School pic.

When he said you should go to city hall instead of worrying about me.

Criticizing a rapper for not telling his fans he stopped doing a drug is the smallest **** to nitpick. If Future is the deciding factor in your kid sippin lean your kid is f'ed. People (old and young) should already know they sippin heroin.

I don't think people know.

Especially when a lot of the people following you are 13-16 and you have their favorite artist promoting percs and lean. Even if they don't have lean they're carrying around two cups fronting like they do.

Look at young wavycrocket , you know he will do anything Future says or does.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

not necessarily criticizing for not telling his fans
more like his reasoning
on why he said he didnt wanna tell his fans

His reason makes sense. This is the entertainment industry where they feed fans what they want to hear. You can't expect entertainers to be 100% honest.

 

[wavycrocket]

Growth is telling your fans the dangers and why they shouldn't do it. Why you're not doing it.

That’s your view. Anybody overcoming addiction is growth to me. And expressing why as well. Doubt you been keeping up with it...but Future went pretty in depth recently about how Juice WRLD telling him that Future’s songs influenced him to try lean in middle school, really F’d him up and made him re-evaluate ****. That IS growth.

I know you don’t listen to Future at all. But while he glorifies drug culture...he also gives you the other side of it...and the in between. From PTSD, Self medicating...to glorifying it in a party setting. To talking about the dangers of it too. It’s sll there.

If dude can come out and be honest about being apprehensive about admitting he’s quit drugs because of how he thought his fans would receive his music....that’s positive at the end of the day.

 

[Magic33]

That’s your view. Anybody overcoming addiction is growth to me. And expressing why as well. Doubt you been keeping up with it...but Future went pretty in depth recently about how Juice WRLD telling him that Future’s songs influenced him to try lean in middle school, really F’d him up and made him re-evaluate ****. That IS growth.

I know you don’t listen to Future at all. But while he glorifies drug culture...he also gives you the other side of it...and the in between. From PTSD, Self medicating...to glorifying it in a party setting. To talking about the dangers of it too. It’s sll there.

If dude can come out and be honest about being apprehensive about admitting he’s quit drugs because of how he thought his fans would receive his music....that’s positive at the end of the day.

That dude is 35 and has ten kids, and is is telling people what they should do and react. When he should look in the mirror, because he's been selling poison to kids for over five years.

That's ain't growth, that's someone who is insecure who thinks he doesn't have much more to offer.

 

[wavycrocket]

^^^Forgot I’m going back and forth with actually Joe Budden himself . Didn’t read **** I said as usual.

This convo pointless .

 

[tay1]

Him being afraid to not tell his fanbase that was wack to me. Then he wanna act surprised that juice wrld said he inspired him to drink lean. I'm with Justice. Future coming out and saying he stopped taking Lean would've been big.

 

[nawghtyhare]

His reason makes sense. This is the entertainment industry where they feed fans what they want to hear. You can't expect entertainers to be 100% honest.

isnt that what drake and ross and pac haters
base their whole arguments on???
i agree with u
but why folks pic and choose who they want to be honest

 

[Maximus Meridius]

Future coming out and saying he stopped taking Lean would've been big.

That's not a good thing though. It shouldn't take Future speaking out against lean to save people. That's not his fault people are that gullible to choose whether or not to put something in their body based on a artist words.

 

[tay1]

That's not a good thing though. It shouldn't take Future speaking out against lean to save people. That's not his fault people are that gullible to choose whether or not to put something in their body based on a artist words.

It shouldn't but if you have the influence to change ****, then you should. It wasnt nothing serious but Jay had ******* ditching they jerseys for button ups because of his influence.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

It shouldn't but if you have the influence to change ****, then you should. It wasnt nothing serious but Jay had ******* ditching they jerseys for button ups because of his influence.

It's a big difference between choosing to switch your style cuz of a rapper and choosing to use drugs cuz of a rapper. That's on the fan. Drugs, sex and violence are all through entertainment you can't expect all artist to be morally perfect in their art.

 

[harlemtothebronx]

Anytime you’re lying to maintain a facade, it’s corny. When that facade is a negative one, with your influence so wide reaching, that’s super corny and reckless, whether you think you should be a role model or not.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

But ain't Hov and Pusha still rapping about their drug dealing days? People love that ****. We lose our minds when Hov drops a verse talking about his trips to Virginia. Gucci still raps about lean and pills here and there. It's pointless to try to police somebody's art. How you as a fan accept it that's on you and kids 15-18 are smarter than we give them credit for.

 

[All Ready]

it’s really like this with every artist

fat comedians are scared if they lose weight they’ll lose fans or be less funny

happy joe is scared his music will be worst than depressed joe

or whatever else artist talk about or look like

I personally never believed future ever did much drugs outside of weed

 

[nawghtyhare]

We lose our minds when Hov drops a verse talking about his trips to Virginia

speak for urself

 

[a blinkin]

You got cats in here wanting to be the moral police about a dude coming clean about kicking an addiction, all the while their top 10 rappers are likely ones who promote a wide array of violence and turpitude far worse than self medicating.

Mf's will go at length to defend cats talking murder in their rhymes with the "you should know better than to actually go out and commit murder yourself; don't be gullible" but Future is nailed on the cross because people decide to do drugs?

Dudes be legit going off blog posts that are often taken out of context, and formulate a whole opinion with only a fraction of the information necessary to do so. You know what that's called? Gossip. Magic in here condemning *** stuff and at the same damn time resorting to the "he got 10 kids" rebuttals that you can find in the Shaderoom comments. Come on fam.

No one is losing sleep because Joe doesn't respect them "as a man." There are plenty of people who remember the **** that's been alleged against him. Son has been on record plenty of times saying people should have all the information about him before they make up their minds on who he really is... yet is the talking head quick to judge people (it doesn't stop at just Future) based off of snippets of information.

FOH Joe.

 

[kingfoamnyc]

Hollywood Joe Budden is trash. Haven't listened to his podcast in months and won't ever again

Son is a fraud

 

[nawghtyhare]

You got cats in here wanting to be the moral police about a dude coming clean about kicking an addiction, all the while their top 10 rappers are likely ones who promote a wide array of violence and turpitude far worse than self medicating.

not my top 10

 

[a blinkin]

Name your top 10

 

[tay1]

You got cats in here wanting to be the moral police about a dude coming clean about kicking an addiction, all the while their top 10 rappers are likely ones who promote a wide array of violence and turpitude far worse than self medicating.

Mf's will go at length to defend cats talking murder in their rhymes with the "you should know better than to actually go out and commit murder yourself; don't be gullible" but Future is nailed on the cross because people decide to do drugs?

You changing the convo. Nobody was even talking about the content. I feel like most are past that at this point because it's hypocrisy has been pointed out. Same ****** who complain about the drug talk never cared about ****** selling drugs.

It simply would've been a good look if he had told his audience because he clearly inspired people to use the ****. Period. Nobody is looking down on dude because he didn't. Just would've been an appreciated gesture.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

You got cats in here wanting to be the moral police about a dude coming clean about kicking an addiction, all the while their top 10 rappers are likely ones who promote a wide array of violence and turpitude far worse than self medicating.

Mf's will go at length to defend cats talking murder in their rhymes with the "you should know better than to actually go out and commit murder yourself; don't be gullible" but Future is nailed on the cross because people decide to do drugs?

Dudes be legit going off blog posts that are often taken out of context, and formulate a whole opinion with only a fraction of the information necessary to do so. You know what that's called? Gossip. Magic in here condemning *** stuff and at the same damn time resorting to the "he got 10 kids" rebuttals that you can find in the Shaderoom comments. Come on fam.

No one is losing sleep because Joe doesn't respect them "as a man." There are plenty of people who remember the **** that's been alleged against him. Son has been on record plenty of times saying people should have all the information about him before they make up their minds on who he really is... yet is the talking head quick to judge people (it doesn't stop at just Future) based off of snippets of information.

FOH Joe.

I'm not surprised though, Joe has had this weird dislike for Future since Everyday Struggle when he was saying Future is not a superstar and he'll never be on SNL by himself, not knowing Future was there solo in 2016 performing March Madness. And that goes back to him being disconnected from certain ****. Joe is the hater that sits back and uses the smallest thing to rant about.

Joe would lose his mind if Future was the one hiding a child and using it to promote a rollout.

 

[a blinkin]

Fam. All you were talking about was the content. Future doesn’t walk around passing out pamphlets on sipping lean. Commenting on the content is the only basis of your arguments... to which, everything I said before still stands.