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wow i just gotta say you say some of the dumbest things ever.Originally Posted by NobleKane
Xtapolapacetl wrote:
LeBron is not joining neither Magic nor Bird. He's joining a team that has two first round exits in two past seasons and had a 15 win season just 3 seasons ago, only 6 wins more than the worst record ever.
Jordan always had Pippen and Grant/Rodman. LeBron barely had a B.J. Armstrong in Mo Williams. MJ, you're the man, but you're not fooling anyone if you're trying to convince someone that you wouldn't have left the Bulls had Pip not come to the rescue.
wow i just gotta say you say some of the dumbest things ever.Originally Posted by NobleKane
Xtapolapacetl wrote:
LeBron is not joining neither Magic nor Bird. He's joining a team that has two first round exits in two past seasons and had a 15 win season just 3 seasons ago, only 6 wins more than the worst record ever.
Jordan always had Pippen and Grant/Rodman. LeBron barely had a B.J. Armstrong in Mo Williams. MJ, you're the man, but you're not fooling anyone if you're trying to convince someone that you wouldn't have left the Bulls had Pip not come to the rescue.
Originally Posted by jbone2308
Originally Posted by NobleKane
wow i just gotta say you say some of the dumbest things ever.Originally Posted by Xtapolapacetl
LeBron is not joining neither Magic nor Bird. He's joining a team that has two first round exits in two past seasons and had a 15 win season just 3 seasons ago, only 6 wins more than the worst record ever.
Jordan always had Pippen and Grant/Rodman. LeBron barely had a B.J. Armstrong in Mo Williams. MJ, you're the man, but you're not fooling anyone if you're trying to convince someone that you wouldn't have left the Bulls had Pip not come to the rescue.
first the 6 rings lebron thing and now bringing up grant and rodman??? like they were superstars??? pippen to the rescue?? the +%!#? Jordan made Pippen....
lebron is joining two FRANCHISE players in miami....
is your love so hard up for lebron that you have to discredit two outstanding superstars in wade and bosh???
What do you expect from this guy. If a players name isn't Lebron he'll find a way to discredit and if his name is Kobe he'll make sure his career was just our imagination.
Originally Posted by jbone2308
Originally Posted by NobleKane
wow i just gotta say you say some of the dumbest things ever.Originally Posted by Xtapolapacetl
LeBron is not joining neither Magic nor Bird. He's joining a team that has two first round exits in two past seasons and had a 15 win season just 3 seasons ago, only 6 wins more than the worst record ever.
Jordan always had Pippen and Grant/Rodman. LeBron barely had a B.J. Armstrong in Mo Williams. MJ, you're the man, but you're not fooling anyone if you're trying to convince someone that you wouldn't have left the Bulls had Pip not come to the rescue.
first the 6 rings lebron thing and now bringing up grant and rodman??? like they were superstars??? pippen to the rescue?? the +%!#? Jordan made Pippen....
lebron is joining two FRANCHISE players in miami....
is your love so hard up for lebron that you have to discredit two outstanding superstars in wade and bosh???
What do you expect from this guy. If a players name isn't Lebron he'll find a way to discredit and if his name is Kobe he'll make sure his career was just our imagination.
i'm not saying that's what i think, i'm saying that's what he probably thought when he decided to go to Miami.Originally Posted by Al3xis
I take it you still feel he'll be 'the man' then?
cause people can't say a guy is regulated to a prince or scottie pippen status and then believe his brand will be enhanced more in Miami.
It can't work both ways.
i'm not saying that's what i think, i'm saying that's what he probably thought when he decided to go to Miami.Originally Posted by Al3xis
I take it you still feel he'll be 'the man' then?
cause people can't say a guy is regulated to a prince or scottie pippen status and then believe his brand will be enhanced more in Miami.
It can't work both ways.
Originally Posted by DT43
real talk.. looking back, i don't even know why we were surprised that he chose Miami. he gave plenty of signs that fame and wealth were more important to him than anything else.Originally Posted by Im Not You
Originally Posted by JinKazama
Did anybody ever stop and think that Lebron doesn't WANT to be the greatest?
Uhh...yeah...and that's exactly what we're saying.
The dudes with the counter arguments are the ones who are taking that to be a negative thing. I never said ANYTHING was wrong with it.
I'm just saying don't pretend like this ISN'T the situation at hand which is what some people are making it out to be.
"I want to be the best, plain and simple" - Kobe Bryant
"If you're a competitive person, that stays with you. You don't stop. You always look over your shoulder." - Magic Johnson
"Once you are labeled 'the best' you want to stay up there, and you can't do it by loafing around.
" - Larry Bird
"I just feel that my competitive drive is far greater than anyone else that I've met, and I think that I thrive on that.[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][/font]"
"I truly love the game; I wouldn't be playing if I didn't love the game. I'm not getting paid astronomical dollars; it's truly for the love of the game of basketball." - Michael Jordan
...
"In the next 15 or 20 years, I hope I'll be the richest man in the world. That's one of my goals. I want to be a billionaire." - Lebron James
Lebron doesn't want to win rings out of love for the game.. he wants rings because having championships = more exposure, more endorsements which will expand his brand. that's fine by me.. dude had a deprived childhood and wants the money and the fame, i don't blame him. at least now that we know, we can take him out of the conversation of the legends. Lebron will go down as a great player, but there's never gonna be an arena with a Lebron James statue outside it.
/Lebron discussion
As for playing alongside Wade, James said the hard practices will make the games âeasyâ
Originally Posted by DT43
real talk.. looking back, i don't even know why we were surprised that he chose Miami. he gave plenty of signs that fame and wealth were more important to him than anything else.Originally Posted by Im Not You
Originally Posted by JinKazama
Did anybody ever stop and think that Lebron doesn't WANT to be the greatest?
Uhh...yeah...and that's exactly what we're saying.
The dudes with the counter arguments are the ones who are taking that to be a negative thing. I never said ANYTHING was wrong with it.
I'm just saying don't pretend like this ISN'T the situation at hand which is what some people are making it out to be.
"I want to be the best, plain and simple" - Kobe Bryant
"If you're a competitive person, that stays with you. You don't stop. You always look over your shoulder." - Magic Johnson
"Once you are labeled 'the best' you want to stay up there, and you can't do it by loafing around.
" - Larry Bird
"I just feel that my competitive drive is far greater than anyone else that I've met, and I think that I thrive on that.[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][/font]"
"I truly love the game; I wouldn't be playing if I didn't love the game. I'm not getting paid astronomical dollars; it's truly for the love of the game of basketball." - Michael Jordan
...
"In the next 15 or 20 years, I hope I'll be the richest man in the world. That's one of my goals. I want to be a billionaire." - Lebron James
Lebron doesn't want to win rings out of love for the game.. he wants rings because having championships = more exposure, more endorsements which will expand his brand. that's fine by me.. dude had a deprived childhood and wants the money and the fame, i don't blame him. at least now that we know, we can take him out of the conversation of the legends. Lebron will go down as a great player, but there's never gonna be an arena with a Lebron James statue outside it.
/Lebron discussion
As for playing alongside Wade, James said the hard practices will make the games âeasyâ
Originally Posted by bijald0331
It just makes me mad as a sports fan and historian...
He could have become immortal. Now he will never be what he could and should have become. He mapped out a destiny only to turn his back when the going got tough. His brand and image will never be what it could have become. It burns me that a man with this much talent didn't understand the responsibility that comes with such gifts.
It sucks because a player and personality like LeBron is once in a generation. He's just that damn good...
I have been trying to think of comparisons and Peyton Manning always pops in my head. It would have sucked if he went to another team after all those losses to the Patriots and Steelers. I was rooting for my Bears to the fullest but I can't front and say that I didn't respect the man for cementing his legacy with that season.
Originally Posted by bijald0331
It just makes me mad as a sports fan and historian...
He could have become immortal. Now he will never be what he could and should have become. He mapped out a destiny only to turn his back when the going got tough. His brand and image will never be what it could have become. It burns me that a man with this much talent didn't understand the responsibility that comes with such gifts.
It sucks because a player and personality like LeBron is once in a generation. He's just that damn good...
I have been trying to think of comparisons and Peyton Manning always pops in my head. It would have sucked if he went to another team after all those losses to the Patriots and Steelers. I was rooting for my Bears to the fullest but I can't front and say that I didn't respect the man for cementing his legacy with that season.
I mean, the dude has it tatted on him, he doesnt really need to say it. And arrogance? Only an arrogant man would handle his free agency decision like he did.Originally Posted by JinKazama
I'm not a huge Lebron fan but I've never seen refer to himself as King or the chosen one or have the arrogance that comes along with that type of nickname.
Finally someone said it. Thank you. Most these dudes are thinking MJ was comparing Wade and Bosh to Larry and Magic on a performance level. Its not about that...Originally Posted by DubA169
magic and bird were some of Mike's greatest peers. Wade and Bosh are some of lebron's greatest peers. (obviously wade much more but Bosh is a max guy and is top 15 or 20) He's saying relative to the competition in this current era, lebron went to go team up with some of the best players instead of beating them.
I mean, the dude has it tatted on him, he doesnt really need to say it. And arrogance? Only an arrogant man would handle his free agency decision like he did.Originally Posted by JinKazama
I'm not a huge Lebron fan but I've never seen refer to himself as King or the chosen one or have the arrogance that comes along with that type of nickname.
Finally someone said it. Thank you. Most these dudes are thinking MJ was comparing Wade and Bosh to Larry and Magic on a performance level. Its not about that...Originally Posted by DubA169
magic and bird were some of Mike's greatest peers. Wade and Bosh are some of lebron's greatest peers. (obviously wade much more but Bosh is a max guy and is top 15 or 20) He's saying relative to the competition in this current era, lebron went to go team up with some of the best players instead of beating them.
Originally Posted by Xtapolapacetl
wow i just gotta say you say some of the dumbest things ever.Originally Posted by NobleKane
Xtapolapacetl wrote:
LeBron is not joining neither Magic nor Bird. He's joining a team that has two first round exits in two past seasons and had a 15 win season just 3 seasons ago, only 6 wins more than the worst record ever.
Jordan always had Pippen and Grant/Rodman. LeBron barely had a B.J. Armstrong in Mo Williams. MJ, you're the man, but you're not fooling anyone if you're trying to convince someone that you wouldn't have left the Bulls had Pip not come to the rescue.
first the 6 rings lebron thing and now bringing up grant and rodman??? like they were superstars??? pippen to the rescue?? the +%!#? Jordan made Pippen....
lebron is joining two FRANCHISE players in miami....
is your love so hard up for lebron that you have to discredit two outstanding superstars in wade and bosh???
Originally Posted by Xtapolapacetl
wow i just gotta say you say some of the dumbest things ever.Originally Posted by NobleKane
Xtapolapacetl wrote:
LeBron is not joining neither Magic nor Bird. He's joining a team that has two first round exits in two past seasons and had a 15 win season just 3 seasons ago, only 6 wins more than the worst record ever.
Jordan always had Pippen and Grant/Rodman. LeBron barely had a B.J. Armstrong in Mo Williams. MJ, you're the man, but you're not fooling anyone if you're trying to convince someone that you wouldn't have left the Bulls had Pip not come to the rescue.
first the 6 rings lebron thing and now bringing up grant and rodman??? like they were superstars??? pippen to the rescue?? the +%!#? Jordan made Pippen....
lebron is joining two FRANCHISE players in miami....
is your love so hard up for lebron that you have to discredit two outstanding superstars in wade and bosh???