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you're in my prayers man.
Tumor in my lung smh...UPDATE!
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you're in my prayers man.
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stay up homie
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What type of lung cancer this jobs have? Because for something like advanced stage small cell carcinoma we've been taught that radiation and chemotherapy works very well and by works very well they mean it prolongs your life by 1-2 years
I can't speak on holistic medicine but I presume it would be an act of "desperation" to turn to it for someone with terminal cancer-a lot of chemotherapy and radiation is "palliative" and doesn't really make the cancer go away so to speak
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I'll pray for you OP, hang in there fam'!
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It's quite hard to say what sorts of questions you should ask without knowing the exact diagnosis.
I mean this could be a benign growth, may be something caused by some sort of infection, which would need antibiotics instead of cancer therapy. It could be cancer, but he probably won't even be able to tell you too much until the biopsy comes back.
From there after they analyze the histology, if it is a malignant tumor, he will probably be able to tell you the: classification (small cell, non-small cell carcinoma, squamous cell, adenocarcinoma, or even sarcoma), stage, grade, treatment options.
You could then ask a plethora of questions in regards to the exact subtype and treatments available. Depending on the subtype specifics (which they should do genomic/proteomic analysis to identify) you're treatment options could be surgery, radiation, chemo-, immuno-, or a combination therapy. You could ask about any novel therapies undergoing clinical trials, but there is a risk involved with those.
Until you know the exact diagnosis though I can not say. So please keep us updated. I'll be sure to check the thread on Monday. Knowing all the details I've listed up top will be a good start and from there we can assess the situation better; find more information you should know, more questions you should ask, etc...
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Rip? Good luck to you and if you're ever in trouble with money issues...
you know what to do.
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Good luck I hope its benign, I had a cyst on my neck 4 years ago and I was scared out my mind. My prayers are with you.
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Good luck. Keep your head up
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WRONG http://www.forbes.com/sit...ancer-treatment-regrets/
Actually, he refused conventional treatment at first. Tried the herbal way, and totally regretted doing so.
You are highly misinformed when it comes to cancer therapy and I suggest you don't comment on it. Usually radiation therapy is highly targeted and specific to the area of the tumor, and so shouldn't disrupt too many normal cells. Surgery again is highly specific only removing the tumor and possibly some of the surrounding tissues. Chemotherapy usually targets rapidly dividing cells like cancer cells, and so you do get some collateral damage to only rapidly dividing normal cells like your hair, some epithelial, and immune cells.
But, all the normal cells that are affected grown back.
Radiation again is used to target the tumor cells, which are rapidly dividing, it causes cell death by damaging the DNA. Yes, it can disrupt protein synthesis, but this isn't the main reason it's used. Protein synthesis is disrupted due to DNA damage, and damage to transcription of mRNA, not translation of polypeptides/proteins. The cells die mostly from inability to properly divide their chromosomes during mitosis.
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damn, i hope you get well soon fam.
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Hopefully its benign, stay hopeful.
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Stay strong man.
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You can get through this OP...stay postive and keeps GOD in your minds and prayers...ill keep you and everyone else that is going through the samething as you in my prayers
man i swear anyone that has had any type of cancer before are the strongest ppl in the world!!!! they go through so much things in there lives and just keep fighting, no one will ever be stronger than those ppl...no one! this includes ppl that are disabled...they live there lives normal and go through everythings that comes at them and they still beat it....amazing how strong these ppl are when it comes to that
man i swear anyone that has had any type of cancer before are the strongest ppl in the world!!!! they go through so much things in there lives and just keep fighting, no one will ever be stronger than those ppl...no one! this includes ppl that are disabled...they live there lives normal and go through everythings that comes at them and they still beat it....amazing how strong these ppl are when it comes to that
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OP, I wish you better health, speedy recovery and positive outcome. Keep us updated, I'll keep you in my prayers as well.
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Wish you the best.
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glad it was found either way man. just stay positive no matter what happens. pray for you bro
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Originally Posted by AntonLaVey
What type of lung cancer this jobs have? Because for something like advanced stage small cell carcinoma we've been taught that radiation and chemotherapy works very well and by works very well they mean it prolongs your life by 1-2 years
I can't speak on holistic medicine but I presume it would be an act of "desperation" to turn to it for someone with terminal cancer-a lot of chemotherapy and radiation is "palliative" and doesn't really make the cancer go away so to speak
Jobs had pancreatic cancer...
You cannot convince me that taking Big Pharma endorsed chemotherapy is a solution, something that DESTROYS not only the neoplasia, but the entire immune system? Chemotherapy is inefficient and extremely toxic. Radiation, bro. It's radiation!
[h4]CONCLUSION: [/h4]
As the 5-year relative survival rate for cancer in Australia is now over 60%, it is clear that cytotoxic chemotherapy only makes a minor contribution to cancer survival. To justify the continued funding and availability of drugs used in cytotoxic chemotherapy, a rigorous evaluation of the cost-effectiveness and impact on quality of life is urgently required.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15630849
One of many. Google Scholar will be your best friend in Med School.
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[/h3]WRONG http://www.forbes.com/sit...ancer-treatment-regrets/
Actually, he refused conventional treatment at first. Tried the herbal way, and totally regretted doing so.
You are highly misinformed when it comes to cancer therapy and I suggest you don't comment on it. Usually radiation therapy is highly targeted and specific to the area of the tumor, and so shouldn't disrupt too many normal cells. Surgery again is highly specific only removing the tumor and possibly some of the surrounding tissues. Chemotherapy usually targets rapidly dividing cells like cancer cells, and so you do get some collateral damage to only rapidly dividing normal cells like your hair, some epithelial, and immune cells.
But, all the normal cells that are affected grown back.
Radiation again is used to target the tumor cells, which are rapidly dividing, it causes cell death by damaging the DNA. Yes, it can disrupt protein synthesis, but this isn't the main reason it's used. Protein synthesis is disrupted due to DNA damage, and damage to transcription of mRNA, not translation of polypeptides/proteins. The cells die mostly from inability to properly divide their chromosomes during mitosis.
Stop. Really, just stop.
Usually radiation therapy is highly targeted and specific to the area of the tumor, and so shouldn't disrupt too many normal cells.
You're giving a patient radiation and it "shouldn't" disrupt normal cells?
http://www.neulasta.com/patient/glossary/chemotherapy-glossary.htmlChemotherapy (also known as chemo) works by killing fast-growing cancer cells. Unfortunately, chemotherapy drugs can't always tell the difference between cancer cells and fast-growing healthy cells, including red and white blood cells. As a result, one of the potential side effects of many types of chemotherapy drugs can be a low white blood cell count.[sup]1[/sup]
Wujcik D. Infection. In: Groenwald SL, Goodman M, Frogge MH, Yarbro CH, eds. Cancer Symptom Management. Boston, Mass: Jones & Bartlett Publishers; 1996:289-304.
Highly targeted, but yet it can't always tell the difference?
Undergrads.
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get well my dude ...
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rashi wrote:
AntonLaVey wrote:
rashi wrote:
Steve Jobs received chemotherapy and other conventional treatment before referring to holistic medicine. This is after chemo, radiotherapy, and surgery already kills good cells that won't grow back because of the radiation that goes into the body disturbing the protein synthesis needed for new cells. Steve Jobs had already disrupted the body's natural biochemistry before he tried looking things up on the internet.
What type of lung cancer this jobs have? Because for something like advanced stage small cell carcinoma we've been taught that radiation and chemotherapy works very well and by works very well they mean it prolongs your life by 1-2 years
I can't speak on holistic medicine but I presume it would be an act of "desperation" to turn to it for someone with terminal cancer-a lot of chemotherapy and radiation is "palliative" and doesn't really make the cancer go away so to speak
Jobs had pancreatic cancer...
You cannot convince me that taking Big Pharma endorsed chemotherapy is a solution, something that DESTROYS not only the neoplasia, but the entire immune system? Chemotherapy is inefficient and extremely toxic. Radiation, bro. It's radiation!
[h4]CONCLUSION:[/h4]
As the 5-year relative survival rate for cancer in Australia is now over 60%, it is clear that cytotoxic chemotherapy only makes a minor contribution to cancer survival. To justify the continued funding and availability of drugs used in cytotoxic chemotherapy, a rigorous evaluation of the cost-effectiveness and impact on quality of life is urgently required.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15630849
One of many. Google Scholar will be your best friend in Med School.
WRONG http://www.forbes.com/sit...ancer-treatment-regrets/
Actually, he refused conventional treatment at first. Tried the herbal way, and totally regretted doing so.
You are highly misinformed when it comes to cancer therapy and I suggest you don't comment on it. Usually radiation therapy is highly targeted and specific to the area of the tumor, and so shouldn't disrupt too many normal cells. Surgery again is highly specific only removing the tumor and possibly some of the surrounding tissues. Chemotherapy usually targets rapidly dividing cells like cancer cells, and so you do get some collateral damage to only rapidly dividing normal cells like your hair, some epithelial, and immune cells.
But, all the normal cells that are affected grown back.
Radiation again is used to target the tumor cells, which are rapidly dividing, it causes cell death by damaging the DNA. Yes, it can disrupt protein synthesis, but this isn't the main reason it's used. Protein synthesis is disrupted due to DNA damage, and damage to transcription of mRNA, not translation of polypeptides/proteins. The cells die mostly from inability to properly divide their chromosomes during mitosis.
Stop. Really, just stop.
Usually radiation therapy is highly targeted and specific to the area of the tumor, and so shouldn't disrupt too many normal cells.
You're giving a patient radiation and it "shouldn't" disrupt normal cells?
http://www.neulasta.com/patient/glossary/chemotherapy-glossary.htmlChemotherapy (also known as chemo) works by killing fast-growing cancer cells. Unfortunately, chemotherapy drugs can't always tell the difference between cancer cells and fast-growing healthy cells, including red and white blood cells. As a result, one of the potential side effects of many types of chemotherapy drugs can be a low white blood cell count.[sup]1[/sup]
Wujcik D. Infection. In: Groenwald SL, Goodman M, Frogge MH, Yarbro CH, eds. Cancer Symptom Management. Boston, Mass: Jones & Bartlett Publishers; 1996:289-304.
Highly targeted, but yet it can't always tell the difference?
Undergrads.
Rashi, I like most of what you post from time to time...so don't take this the wrong way
But you don't know what you're talking about.
I've taken entire courses in this stuff and part of what I do for a living predicates on me being competent in this content area. Additionally PleasurePhD...is actually a PhD in this stuff (ive personally spoken with him) and he DEFINITELY knows more about this than you do. Going to google and searching for one dissenting argument is NOT sufficient proof that chemo doesn't work.
I'm willing to bet you wouldn't want him to not use chemo at all, would you? Of course not. Don't be silly.
OP, do NOT listen to Rashi.
BTW, Pancreatic Cancer is VERY hard to detect until its far prognosed. If you've ever seen a cadaver or had an anatomy class worth a damn, you'd know this. Thats why its so deadly.
Woo-woo and BS killed steve jobs. The same with bob marley.
Chemo sucks because its physically taxing on the body, depending on where applied, and lead to other complications from time to time...but it is the BEST form of interventional cancer treatment we have today.
Radiation is a tricky beast. Its like using a sledgehammer to hammer nails in. Its technically overkill...thats why normal cells get in the way. But it works.
Lets stick to what we know and i'm frankly offended you'd bring "chemtrails" into this. This is a medical emergency. Not time to decide on the NWA. You can experiment with your life, but don't gamble with his.
eating herbs and wishing tumors away does NOT fix those things.
Just remember, as much as we like to rail against big pharma, what they do is provide a vital service that has saved hundreds of millions of people since the discovery of these techniques.
You know what they call alternative medicine that works?...MEDICINE.
Don't get it twisted. If eating nuts and berries could save your aunt with breast cancer, i'm sure she'd camp out in the aisles of whole foods.
OP, keep your spirits up. Get your support team around you. Stay positive but realistic. And learning and doing research NEVER hurt any one...
But please for your safety and the sake of those who care about you, do NOT invest any time in those pseudo-scientific claims.
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So you're really preaching and promoting for this holistic and natural medicine method. What are the stats of the treatments being successful opposed to the chemo / radiation?
If I have cancer i'm doing the traditional treatments first. I'm not going to play around and experiment with the natural stuff. I'm not sure how many doctors would recommend you do that stuff first.
If I have cancer i'm doing the traditional treatments first. I'm not going to play around and experiment with the natural stuff. I'm not sure how many doctors would recommend you do that stuff first.
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Why do people on NT instead of sharing information, automatically jump to ego attacks, not only that, but this isn't the thread to turn this into Oncology 101...just send OP some good vibes and keep it moving peeps.
