Pancreatic cancer is a death sentenceOriginally Posted by rashi
Originally Posted by AntonLaVey
What type of lung cancer this jobs have? Because for something like advanced stage small cell carcinoma we've been taught that radiation and chemotherapy works very well and by works very well they mean it prolongs your life by 1-2 years
I can't speak on holistic medicine but I presume it would be an act of "desperation" to turn to it for someone with terminal cancer-a lot of chemotherapy and radiation is "palliative" and doesn't really make the cancer go away so to speak
Jobs had pancreatic cancer...
sillyputty wrote:
rashi wrote:
AntonLaVey wrote:
What type of lung cancer this jobs have? Because for something like advanced stage small cell carcinoma we've been taught that radiation and chemotherapy works very well and by works very well they mean it prolongs your life by 1-2 years
I can't speak on holistic medicine but I presume it would be an act of "desperation" to turn to it for someone with terminal cancer-a lot of chemotherapy and radiation is "palliative" and doesn't really make the cancer go away so to speak
Jobs had pancreatic cancer...
You cannot convince me that taking Big Pharma endorsed chemotherapy is a solution, something that DESTROYS not only the neoplasia, but the entire immune system? Chemotherapy is inefficient and extremely toxic. Radiation, bro. It's radiation!
[h4]CONCLUSION:[/h4]
As the 5-year relative survival rate for cancer in Australia is now over 60%, it is clear that cytotoxic chemotherapy only makes a minor contribution to cancer survival. To justify the continued funding and availability of drugs used in cytotoxic chemotherapy, a rigorous evaluation of the cost-effectiveness and impact on quality of life is urgently required.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15630849
One of many. Google Scholar will be your best friend in Med School.
WRONG http://www.forbes.com/sit...ancer-treatment-regrets/
Actually, he refused conventional treatment at first. Tried the herbal way, and totally regretted doing so.
You are highly misinformed when it comes to cancer therapy and I suggest you don't comment on it. Usually radiation therapy is highly targeted and specific to the area of the tumor, and so shouldn't disrupt too many normal cells. Surgery again is highly specific only removing the tumor and possibly some of the surrounding tissues. Chemotherapy usually targets rapidly dividing cells like cancer cells, and so you do get some collateral damage to only rapidly dividing normal cells like your hair, some epithelial, and immune cells.
But, all the normal cells that are affected grown back.
Radiation again is used to target the tumor cells, which are rapidly dividing, it causes cell death by damaging the DNA. Yes, it can disrupt protein synthesis, but this isn't the main reason it's used. Protein synthesis is disrupted due to DNA damage, and damage to transcription of mRNA, not translation of polypeptides/proteins. The cells die mostly from inability to properly divide their chromosomes during mitosis.
Stop. Really, just stop.
Usually radiation therapy is highly targeted and specific to the area of the tumor, and so shouldn't disrupt too many normal cells.
You're giving a patient radiation and it "shouldn't" disrupt normal cells?
http://www.neulasta.com/patient/glossary/chemotherapy-glossary.htmlChemotherapy (also known as chemo) works by killing fast-growing cancer cells. Unfortunately, chemotherapy drugs can't always tell the difference between cancer cells and fast-growing healthy cells, including red and white blood cells. As a result, one of the potential side effects of many types of chemotherapy drugs can be a low white blood cell count.[sup]1[/sup]
Wujcik D. Infection. In: Groenwald SL, Goodman M, Frogge MH, Yarbro CH, eds. Cancer Symptom Management. Boston, Mass: Jones & Bartlett Publishers; 1996:289-304.
Highly targeted, but yet it can't always tell the difference?
Undergrads.
Rashi, I like most of what you post from time to time...so don't take this the wrong way
But you don't know what you're talking about.
I've taken entire courses in this stuff and part of what I do for a living predicates on me being competent in this content area. Additionally PleasurePhD...is actually a PhD in this stuff (ive personally spoken with him) and he DEFINITELY knows more about this than you do. Going to google and searching for one dissenting argument is NOT sufficient proof that chemo doesn't work.
I'm willing to bet you wouldn't want him to not use chemo at all, would you? Of course not. Don't be silly.
OP, do NOT listen to Rashi.
BTW, Pancreatic Cancer is VERY hard to detect until its far prognosed. If you've ever seen a cadaver or had an anatomy class worth a damn, you'd know this. Thats why its so deadly.
Woo-woo and BS killed steve jobs. The same with bob marley.
Chemo sucks because its physically taxing on the body, depending on where applied, and lead to other complications from time to time...but it is the BEST form of interventional cancer treatment we have today.
Radiation is a tricky beast. Its like using a sledgehammer to hammer nails in. Its technically overkill...thats why normal cells get in the way. But it works.
Lets stick to what we know and i'm frankly offended you'd bring "chemtrails" into this. This is a medical emergency. Not time to decide on the NWA. You can experiment with your life, but don't gamble with his.
eating herbs and wishing tumors away does NOT fix those things.
Just remember, as much as we like to rail against big pharma, what they do is provide a vital service that has saved hundreds of millions of people since the discovery of these techniques.
You know what they call alternative medicine that works?...MEDICINE.
Don't get it twisted. If eating nuts and berries could save your aunt with breast cancer, i'm sure she'd camp out in the aisles of whole foods.
OP, keep your spirits up. Get your support team around you. Stay positive but realistic. And learning and doing research NEVER hurt any one...
But please for your safety and the sake of those who care about you, do NOT invest any time in those pseudo-scientific claims.
Silly, props man, thanks for the back up as usual. I got yo back too.
Rashi, let's just agree to disagree. Leave it at that.
OP just listen to your physician and let us know the info so we can help. You can take any opinion you want, but I suggest you just do your own research, be sure it's quality research, peer reviewed sources. Don't worry as of yet. Nothing to worry about. When the time comes talk to your physician about ALL TREATMENT options, and see what he or she says.
Holy !+%*, dude. I've had all of that going on for about a month now, out of nowhere...
