Turns out the new Mustang wasn't that great after all.

[marcmac360]

Ford could easily match Nissan on those numbers with a V6. Remember they produce a 365 hp TT. The point is that its a MUSCLE CAR. And most consumers anticipate a big nasty sounding V8.

Nissan is in a league of its own in terms of Japanese manufacturers still producing entry level sports cars but I dont think their intentions were to catch a mustang.

Ford from the beginning has focused on keeping the majority market share on pony car sales. So ya, they were slacking on base models for a bit in the earlier S197 platforms.

In conclusion, 370z = drivers car. Id drive the piss out of it. 2011- mustang = a pretty damn good car for the dollar. Id gladly take the base model and mod it to my liking.

 

[thockey66]

Originally Posted by JoseBronx

Japanese > domestic whips

Slow?
I guess you should off yourself

2012 370z

$31,450(base)

332-hp 3.7-liter V6

0 to 60mph: 4.7sec

Standing 1/4mile: 13.3@105.7mph

vs

2012 Ford Mustang GT

$29,310(base)

412-hp 5.0-liter V8

0 to 60mph: 4.3sec

Standing 1/4mile: 12.8@110.8mph


...Not that arguing numbers means anything.

 

[thockey66]

Originally Posted by JoseBronx

Japanese > domestic whips

Slow?
I guess you should off yourself

2012 370z

$31,450(base)

332-hp 3.7-liter V6

0 to 60mph: 4.7sec

Standing 1/4mile: 13.3@105.7mph

vs

2012 Ford Mustang GT

$29,310(base)

412-hp 5.0-liter V8

0 to 60mph: 4.3sec

Standing 1/4mile: 12.8@110.8mph


...Not that arguing numbers means anything.

 

[getthismoney]

Originally Posted by THockey66

Originally Posted by JoseBronx

Japanese > domestic whips

Slow?
I guess you should off yourself

2012 370z

$31,450(base)

332-hp 3.7-liter V6

0 to 60mph: 4.7sec

Standing 1/4mile: 13.3@105.7mph

vs

2012 Ford Mustang GT

$29,310(base)

412-hp 5.0-liter V8

0 to 60mph: 4.3sec

Standing 1/4mile: 12.8@110.8mph


...Not that arguing numbers means anything.

Yikes. I barely see 370z's anyway, way overpriced IMO and looks

GT>370z

 

[getthismoney]

Originally Posted by THockey66

Originally Posted by JoseBronx

Japanese > domestic whips

Slow?
I guess you should off yourself

2012 370z

$31,450(base)

332-hp 3.7-liter V6

0 to 60mph: 4.7sec

Standing 1/4mile: 13.3@105.7mph

vs

2012 Ford Mustang GT

$29,310(base)

412-hp 5.0-liter V8

0 to 60mph: 4.3sec

Standing 1/4mile: 12.8@110.8mph


...Not that arguing numbers means anything.

Yikes. I barely see 370z's anyway, way overpriced IMO and looks

GT>370z

 

[notoriouspat]

oh wow, they finally went back to 5.0s eh? thats kinda cool

 

[notoriouspat]

oh wow, they finally went back to 5.0s eh? thats kinda cool

 

[finnns2003]

Originally Posted by THockey66

Originally Posted by JoseBronx

Japanese > domestic whips

Slow?
I guess you should off yourself

2012 370z

$31,450(base)

332-hp 3.7-liter V6

0 to 60mph: 4.7sec

Standing 1/4mile: 13.3@105.7mph

vs

2012 Ford Mustang GT

$29,310(base)

412-hp 5.0-liter V8

0 to 60mph: 4.3sec

Standing 1/4mile: 12.8@110.8mph


...Not that arguing numbers means anything.

Not much faster in the 0-60, and I want some weight numbers as well.

In either case, not interested in either car. They're both hogs that don't take well to mods.

 

[finnns2003]

Originally Posted by THockey66

Originally Posted by JoseBronx

Japanese > domestic whips

Slow?
I guess you should off yourself

2012 370z

$31,450(base)

332-hp 3.7-liter V6

0 to 60mph: 4.7sec

Standing 1/4mile: 13.3@105.7mph

vs

2012 Ford Mustang GT

$29,310(base)

412-hp 5.0-liter V8

0 to 60mph: 4.3sec

Standing 1/4mile: 12.8@110.8mph


...Not that arguing numbers means anything.

Not much faster in the 0-60, and I want some weight numbers as well.

In either case, not interested in either car. They're both hogs that don't take well to mods.

 

[mplsdunk]

Neither cars are that fast. Lets be real. Clearly fords quality us still trash in some areas. I'd rather cop the 370.

 

[mplsdunk]

Neither cars are that fast. Lets be real. Clearly fords quality us still trash in some areas. I'd rather cop the 370.

 

[josebronx]

Originally Posted by MarcMac360

Ford could easily match Nissan on those numbers with a V6. Remember they produce a 365 hp TT. The point is that its a MUSCLE CAR. And most consumers anticipate a big nasty sounding V8.

Nissan is in a league of its own in terms of Japanese manufacturers still producing entry level sports cars but I dont think their intentions were to catch a mustang.

Ford from the beginning has focused on keeping the majority market share on pony car sales. So ya, they were slacking on base models for a bit in the earlier S197 platforms.

In conclusion, 370z = drivers car. Id drive the piss out of it. 2011- mustang = a pretty damn good car for the dollar. Id gladly take the base model and mod it to my liking.

I know that but son is talking he ever driven either of the 2

Originally Posted by THockey66

Originally Posted by JoseBronx

Japanese > domestic whips

Slow?
I guess you should off yourself

2012 370z

$31,450(base)

332-hp 3.7-liter V6

0 to 60mph: 4.7sec

Standing 1/4mile: 13.3@105.7mph

vs

2012 Ford Mustang GT

$29,310(base)

412-hp 5.0-liter V8

0 to 60mph: 4.3sec

Standing 1/4mile: 12.8@110.8mph


...Not that arguing numbers means anything.

Originally Posted by JoseBronx

 and 2011 and more hp but cant do much with a chinese ******

I guess you should off yourself

and its a number I would expect from a car with 2 more cylinders, because even the LS1 made more than what the mustang made up until 2011

keep in mind that the vq37 is a V6 with a liter less, goes to show that not all sports cars need a V8. Imagine if nissan made one with a VH or VK engine

 

[josebronx]

Originally Posted by MarcMac360

Ford could easily match Nissan on those numbers with a V6. Remember they produce a 365 hp TT. The point is that its a MUSCLE CAR. And most consumers anticipate a big nasty sounding V8.

Nissan is in a league of its own in terms of Japanese manufacturers still producing entry level sports cars but I dont think their intentions were to catch a mustang.

Ford from the beginning has focused on keeping the majority market share on pony car sales. So ya, they were slacking on base models for a bit in the earlier S197 platforms.

In conclusion, 370z = drivers car. Id drive the piss out of it. 2011- mustang = a pretty damn good car for the dollar. Id gladly take the base model and mod it to my liking.

I know that but son is talking he ever driven either of the 2

Originally Posted by THockey66

Originally Posted by JoseBronx

Japanese > domestic whips

Slow?
I guess you should off yourself

2012 370z

$31,450(base)

332-hp 3.7-liter V6

0 to 60mph: 4.7sec

Standing 1/4mile: 13.3@105.7mph

vs

2012 Ford Mustang GT

$29,310(base)

412-hp 5.0-liter V8

0 to 60mph: 4.3sec

Standing 1/4mile: 12.8@110.8mph


...Not that arguing numbers means anything.

Originally Posted by JoseBronx

 and 2011 and more hp but cant do much with a chinese ******

I guess you should off yourself

and its a number I would expect from a car with 2 more cylinders, because even the LS1 made more than what the mustang made up until 2011

keep in mind that the vq37 is a V6 with a liter less, goes to show that not all sports cars need a V8. Imagine if nissan made one with a VH or VK engine

 

[marcmac360]

Attention NT'ers 0-60 means nothing in reality when youre talking about how well a car performs. Its an old benchmark that is used to wow people.

Aside from porsche, lotus, Z06/ZR1, whatever youre not going to find a mass produced car that is a lightweight performer in the same light. Safety regulations force cars to be heavier and bulkier these days.

I dont know about modding them though. I am certain before Ford switched to the 5.0 that the 4.6 V8 was easy to mod and responded well. A full exhaust change and CAI gave an easy 25-30 hp.

 

[marcmac360]

Attention NT'ers 0-60 means nothing in reality when youre talking about how well a car performs. Its an old benchmark that is used to wow people.

Aside from porsche, lotus, Z06/ZR1, whatever youre not going to find a mass produced car that is a lightweight performer in the same light. Safety regulations force cars to be heavier and bulkier these days.

I dont know about modding them though. I am certain before Ford switched to the 5.0 that the 4.6 V8 was easy to mod and responded well. A full exhaust change and CAI gave an easy 25-30 hp.

 

[nktran001]

Ford is straight trash.

 

[nktran001]

Ford is straight trash.

 

[norcalhussla]

the Z will handle better and the GT will accellerate faster. but thats how its spose to be. gt is a muscle car.
id cop the Z on just build quaility and japanese parts. all-around the Z is

thought the new stang was

until i heard bout this chinese transmission.

 

[norcalhussla]

the Z will handle better and the GT will accellerate faster. but thats how its spose to be. gt is a muscle car.
id cop the Z on just build quaility and japanese parts. all-around the Z is

thought the new stang was

until i heard bout this chinese transmission.

 

[thockey66]

Originally Posted by JoseBronx

and its a number I would expect from a car with 2 more cylinders, because even the LS1 made more than what the mustang made up until 2011

...yet, you're next statement was:

Originally Posted by JoseBronx

keep in mind that the vq37 is a V6 with a liter less

Well the he LS1 is a 5.7L motor compared to the 4.6L 2011 Mustang. Looks like a liter less to me.

Originally Posted by JoseBronx

goes to show that not all sports cars need a V8.

Sports cars don't even "need" a 6-cylinder, though. Modern advancements and forced induction, especially, prove this. Last i checked, the Evos and STI's of the world seem to be doing just fine with motors the size of the bottle of soda we drink out of.

Originally Posted by JoseBronx

Imagine if nissan made one with a VH or VK engine

Well they don't, so throw that out the window.

 

[thockey66]

Originally Posted by JoseBronx

and its a number I would expect from a car with 2 more cylinders, because even the LS1 made more than what the mustang made up until 2011

...yet, you're next statement was:

Originally Posted by JoseBronx

keep in mind that the vq37 is a V6 with a liter less

Well the he LS1 is a 5.7L motor compared to the 4.6L 2011 Mustang. Looks like a liter less to me.

Originally Posted by JoseBronx

goes to show that not all sports cars need a V8.

Sports cars don't even "need" a 6-cylinder, though. Modern advancements and forced induction, especially, prove this. Last i checked, the Evos and STI's of the world seem to be doing just fine with motors the size of the bottle of soda we drink out of.

Originally Posted by JoseBronx

Imagine if nissan made one with a VH or VK engine

Well they don't, so throw that out the window.

 

[mondaynightraw]

well, to be fair, the mustang is faster than the z at a lower price point.

 

[mondaynightraw]

well, to be fair, the mustang is faster than the z at a lower price point.

 

[getthismoney]

keep in mind that the vq37 is a V6 with a liter less, goes to show that not all sports cars need a V8. Imagine if nissan made one with a VH or VK engine
It doesn't matter, the Z is more expensive and they are in the same class. Why should we give it a pass for having a smaller engine?

 

[getthismoney]

keep in mind that the vq37 is a V6 with a liter less, goes to show that not all sports cars need a V8. Imagine if nissan made one with a VH or VK engine
It doesn't matter, the Z is more expensive and they are in the same class. Why should we give it a pass for having a smaller engine?