ZYZZ Dead at 22

Originally Posted by an dee 51o

The reason I've been hesitant to try supplements and stuff like NO2 is because since they're all fairly new, the long-term effects of use haven't been established.

Kind of hypocritical of me, but whatever
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Seriously bro. I've seen your posts and I have an idea how you get down. NO2 might be the least of your worries (no judgment).
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Originally Posted by AG 47

Originally Posted by an dee 51o

The reason I've been hesitant to try supplements and stuff like NO2 is because since they're all fairly new, the long-term effects of use haven't been established.

Kind of hypocritical of me, but whatever
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Seriously bro. I've seen your posts and I have an idea how you get down. NO2 might be the least of your worries (no judgment).
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isn't this the bobby lee lookin dude that is a pill popper?
 
Originally Posted by JOE CAMEL SMOOTH

he took sensible amounts of steroids as far as i know

and cocaine in australia is $300+/gram for so-so quality....so i think it's safe to assume he didn't have some dangerous cocaine habit, more likely he did a little bit every now and then. mdma is a stimulant but shouldn't tax the heart too much.....i would say it's on par with amphetamines and people take adderall/ritalin/etc daily for years with no noticeable cardiovascular issues. and as any user will know you can't take mdma frequently or it loses all effects as it quickly depletes your brain of its serotonin. 

the article said he has a pre-existing heart condition......i'm sure these substances didn't help matters but if he had a normal heart i doubt it would've been an issue. despite the drug use he did take more care of his body than the average slob eating mcdonald's every day and binge drinking every weekend.
i wouldn't call what he did "sensible".. just from skimming misc from time to time i know he did minimum 5-6 cycles over like 2 years. that's a LOT more than your average guy using some anavar while cutting up. he cycled at the minimum tren, clen (people die of clen-related heart issues every year), t3, dnp, winnie, dbol etc etc over a short period of time. and like i said those are just the ones i've heard mentioned.
and i remember him postng once that he would be on diuretics yet would still pop E and drink at festivals (you aren't even supposed to pop E and drink, much less while on diuretics).

i disagree with you on this, i think he showed complete disregard for his personal health. not that his heart issues didn't play a role in his death, but there's no doubt in my mind he would still be alive if he lived a different lifestyle. hell, he was on some thermogenic when he died, and was sitting in a sauna. that's why he died. you don't sit in a sauna while on a thermogenic. his heart was probably crying out for mercy by that point.
 
Originally Posted by Zyzz

Originally Posted by ShadyKay NT

Originally Posted by Zyzz

meh i have my opinions but w/e

i still dont know why people continue to take nitric oxide crap when its bad for your heart. i see all these dudes, whoa just took my first scoop and feels like my heart is about to exlode. like wth?

Let me ask you though...if you're so against what Zyzz took to make his body look the way it did...
Why did you jock his screen name? At one point you had his damn picture as your avy as well.
hes funny as hell and his body was sick. i aim too look like that one day but im not giving up my health to look like that. ive said it plenty of times before under my other names.

i dont like supps especially fat burners and NO2. whats the point in taking that stuff when it puts stress and affect your heart?

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Originally Posted by DT43

not sure about the song, but i'm sure a million people asked in the comments so you could check there or google "song from zyzz vid" idk
more trolling for the lulz (full thread/cliffs):

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=126315083

Cliffs here...

- Zyzz makes current thread about rejecting a girl on facebook chat in a harsh manner. She blocks and deletes him from facebook.
Pic -> http://a.imageshack.us/img22/1741/kkik.jpg
Link ->http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post524218223
Link ->http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post524220193
- Misc gets aroused and demands more Zyzz rejecting girls on facebook. So Zyzz proceeds to post more.
- Zyzz posts a second pic of him rejecting a larger girl which becomes the most quoted post in this thread.
Pic -> http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/6379/hahahawat.png
Link ->http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post524221243
- People joke about Lunatic closing the thread because Zyzz made an epic thread.
- Zyzz posts a third pic of a girl trying to flirt with him but he ignores.
Pic -> http://a.imageshack.us/img824/2136/rrge.jpg
Link ->http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post524224213
- Zyzz adds a fourth pic to show what kind of friend requests he gets as well as the pink knight messages he gets on facebook.
Pic -> http://a.imageshack.us/img820/6355/st1p.jpg
Pic -> http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/6348/st2v.jpg
Link ->http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post524230533
- Misc goes on to praise Zyzz for creating an epic thread. Many people admit they weren't fans of him but now are.
- Zyzz adds message pic from a 16 year old he banged. It goes on about their small hookup and a buch of nonsense about how they're meant to be together. She notes several times how hot she thinks Zyzz is and how she is in love with him.
Pic -> http://a.imageshack.us/img442/2183/lol22.jpg
Link ->http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post524232303
- Zyzz posts a pic of FB messages where a guy who was bugging a girl Zyzz was with and trying to call Zyzz out.
Pic -> http://a.imageshack.us/img704/3904/rrrrrrrrrrrrrr.jpg
Link ->http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post524241843
- Zyzz rejects a girl with only an eye pic.
Pic -> http://a.imageshack.us/img85/2003/60474729.jpg
Link ->http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post524246153
- People request Zyzz reject a hot chick. Zyzz posts a pic of him rejecting a decent girl calling her a 7 and possibly a %@!$+.
Pic -> http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/4546/bahahao.jpg
Link ->http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post524251333
- Zyzz disappears but people continue to praise him.
- Flexlex and fromnewyork come into thread to WK. Say Zyzz shouldn't be so bad/mean to women.
Link ->http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post524251333
Link ->http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post524312653
Link ->http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post524260583
- Someone (maybe Zyzz?) trolls facepunch using the content from this thread. Nerdy virgins there rage and even claim the girls rejected are totally bangable.
Link ->http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post524437423
Link (External) ->http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=976686
- Zyzz hasn't returned but everyone is hyped up about epic thread or a fan of Zyzz now.

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Just read the whole thread 
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Steriods huh? never respected it

I worked my butt off for 3 years to gain 50lbs of lean muscle. People just don't wanna put in the work. Sure he worked, but in my eyes he "cheated"

But R.I.P. he seemd like a cool dude
 
Originally Posted by DT43

Originally Posted by JOE CAMEL SMOOTH

he took sensible amounts of steroids as far as i know

and cocaine in australia is $300+/gram for so-so quality....so i think it's safe to assume he didn't have some dangerous cocaine habit, more likely he did a little bit every now and then. mdma is a stimulant but shouldn't tax the heart too much.....i would say it's on par with amphetamines and people take adderall/ritalin/etc daily for years with no noticeable cardiovascular issues. and as any user will know you can't take mdma frequently or it loses all effects as it quickly depletes your brain of its serotonin. 

the article said he has a pre-existing heart condition......i'm sure these substances didn't help matters but if he had a normal heart i doubt it would've been an issue. despite the drug use he did take more care of his body than the average slob eating mcdonald's every day and binge drinking every weekend.
i wouldn't call what he did "sensible".. just from skimming misc from time to time i know he did minimum 5-6 cycles over like 2 years. that's a LOT more than your average guy using some anavar while cutting up. he cycled at the minimum tren, clen (people die of clen-related heart issues every year), t3, dnp, winnie, dbol etc etc over a short period of time. and like i said those are just the ones i've heard mentioned.
and i remember him postng once that he would be on diuretics yet would still pop E and drink at festivals (you aren't even supposed to pop E and drink, much less while on diuretics).

i disagree with you on this, i think he showed complete disregard for his personal health. not that his heart issues didn't play a role in his death, but there's no doubt in my mind he would still be alive if he lived a different lifestyle. hell, he was on some thermogenic when he died, and was sitting in a sauna. that's why he died. you don't sit in a sauna while on a thermogenic. his heart was probably crying out for mercy by that point.

THIS x trillion.
You spoke about gear and clen with a good deal of expertise.

[Denzel] my man...[Denzel]
 
Wow, I didn't know dude was such a huge troll.

Kinda scary how popular he became acting like a complete jerk.
 
Originally Posted by DT43

Originally Posted by JOE CAMEL SMOOTH

he took sensible amounts of steroids as far as i know

and cocaine in australia is $300+/gram for so-so quality....so i think it's safe to assume he didn't have some dangerous cocaine habit, more likely he did a little bit every now and then. mdma is a stimulant but shouldn't tax the heart too much.....i would say it's on par with amphetamines and people take adderall/ritalin/etc daily for years with no noticeable cardiovascular issues. and as any user will know you can't take mdma frequently or it loses all effects as it quickly depletes your brain of its serotonin. 

the article said he has a pre-existing heart condition......i'm sure these substances didn't help matters but if he had a normal heart i doubt it would've been an issue. despite the drug use he did take more care of his body than the average slob eating mcdonald's every day and binge drinking every weekend.
i wouldn't call what he did "sensible".. just from skimming misc from time to time i know he did minimum 5-6 cycles over like 2 years. that's a LOT more than your average guy using some anavar while cutting up. he cycled at the minimum tren, clen (people die of clen-related heart issues every year), t3, dnp, winnie, dbol etc etc over a short period of time. and like i said those are just the ones i've heard mentioned.
and i remember him postng once that he would be on diuretics yet would still pop E and drink at festivals (you aren't even supposed to pop E and drink, much less while on diuretics).

i disagree with you on this, i think he showed complete disregard for his personal health. not that his heart issues didn't play a role in his death, but there's no doubt in my mind he would still be alive if he lived a different lifestyle. hell, he was on some thermogenic when he died, and was sitting in a sauna. that's why he died. you don't sit in a sauna while on a thermogenic. his heart was probably crying out for mercy by that point.

Which makes his life complete irony....because he was COMPLETELY flawed. 

Dudes saying he inspired others to train hard and live a healthy lifestyle, but he was abusing the *@%$ out of his body....
 
Originally Posted by DoubleJs07

Originally Posted by DT43

Originally Posted by JOE CAMEL SMOOTH

he took sensible amounts of steroids as far as i know



and cocaine in australia is $300+/gram for so-so quality....so i think it's safe to assume he didn't have some dangerous cocaine habit, more likely he did a little bit every now and then. mdma is a stimulant but shouldn't tax the heart too much.....i would say it's on par with amphetamines and people take adderall/ritalin/etc daily for years with no noticeable cardiovascular issues. and as any user will know you can't take mdma frequently or it loses all effects as it quickly depletes your brain of its serotonin. 



the article said he has a pre-existing heart condition......i'm sure these substances didn't help matters but if he had a normal heart i doubt it would've been an issue. despite the drug use he did take more care of his body than the average slob eating mcdonald's every day and binge drinking every weekend.
i wouldn't call what he did "sensible".. just from skimming misc from time to time i know he did minimum 5-6 cycles over like 2 years. that's a LOT more than your average guy using some anavar while cutting up. he cycled at the minimum tren, clen (people die of clen-related heart issues every year), t3, dnp, winnie, dbol etc etc over a short period of time. and like i said those are just the ones i've heard mentioned.
and i remember him postng once that he would be on diuretics yet would still pop E and drink at festivals (you aren't even supposed to pop E and drink, much less while on diuretics).

i disagree with you on this, i think he showed complete disregard for his personal health. not that his heart issues didn't play a role in his death, but there's no doubt in my mind he would still be alive if he lived a different lifestyle. hell, he was on some thermogenic when he died, and was sitting in a sauna. that's why he died. you don't sit in a sauna while on a thermogenic. his heart was probably crying out for mercy by that point.

Which makes his life complete irony....because he was COMPLETELY flawed. 

Dudes saying he inspired others to train hard and live a healthy lifestyle, but he was abusing the *+@% out of his body....



It's possible to do both. People are enamored with the results, and final product. That's what the admirers want. The avenues to the desired results...well, that's where the problems arise.
 
lot of speculation going on here though....the guy barely drank, dont think he took diuretics, didnt take all the aas listed, etc.

congenital heart condition for sure.....i have done most of the +**@ he has done (not all.....tren dnp clen never done) and im his age, 22. im in perfect health as far as i know.....definitely no heart problems.
 
Originally Posted by JOE CAMEL SMOOTH

lot of speculation going on here though....the guy barely drank, dont think he took diuretics, didnt take all the aas listed, etc.

congenital heart condition for sure.....i have done most of the +**@ he has done (not all.....tren dnp clen never done) and im his age, 22. im in perfect health as far as i know.....definitely no heart problems.

sound a little paranoid over there bro.
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seriously though, im sure this was an anomaly
 
Wow very sad, RIP zyzz...

Talked to dude a few times about poker and transfered him some funds to get down on pokerstars... You will be missed homie
 
Originally Posted by Ecook0808

Originally Posted by Zyzz

Originally Posted by ShadyKay NT


Let me ask you though...if you're so against what Zyzz took to make his body look the way it did...
Why did you jock his screen name? At one point you had his damn picture as your avy as well.
hes funny as hell and his body was sick. i aim too look like that one day but im not giving up my health to look like that. ive said it plenty of times before under my other names.

i dont like supps especially fat burners and NO2. whats the point in taking that stuff when it puts stress and affect your heart?

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not to mention dude tried to pretend he was the real zyzz until joe camel called him creepy in the staying in shape thread 
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Originally Posted by DoubleJs07

Originally Posted by DT43

Originally Posted by JOE CAMEL SMOOTH

he took sensible amounts of steroids as far as i know

and cocaine in australia is $300+/gram for so-so quality....so i think it's safe to assume he didn't have some dangerous cocaine habit, more likely he did a little bit every now and then. mdma is a stimulant but shouldn't tax the heart too much.....i would say it's on par with amphetamines and people take adderall/ritalin/etc daily for years with no noticeable cardiovascular issues. and as any user will know you can't take mdma frequently or it loses all effects as it quickly depletes your brain of its serotonin. 

the article said he has a pre-existing heart condition......i'm sure these substances didn't help matters but if he had a normal heart i doubt it would've been an issue. despite the drug use he did take more care of his body than the average slob eating mcdonald's every day and binge drinking every weekend.
i wouldn't call what he did "sensible".. just from skimming misc from time to time i know he did minimum 5-6 cycles over like 2 years. that's a LOT more than your average guy using some anavar while cutting up. he cycled at the minimum tren, clen (people die of clen-related heart issues every year), t3, dnp, winnie, dbol etc etc over a short period of time. and like i said those are just the ones i've heard mentioned.
and i remember him postng once that he would be on diuretics yet would still pop E and drink at festivals (you aren't even supposed to pop E and drink, much less while on diuretics).

i disagree with you on this, i think he showed complete disregard for his personal health. not that his heart issues didn't play a role in his death, but there's no doubt in my mind he would still be alive if he lived a different lifestyle. hell, he was on some thermogenic when he died, and was sitting in a sauna. that's why he died. you don't sit in a sauna while on a thermogenic. his heart was probably crying out for mercy by that point.

Which makes his life complete irony....because he was COMPLETELY flawed. 

Dudes saying he inspired others to train hard and live a healthy lifestyle, but he was abusing the *@%$ out of his body....
RIP
an i agree with DT43 an DoubleJ

ppl much older than zyzz then done cycles, much harder &(#$, more years and are much bigger, with roids comes responsibility also.

all i gotta say.
 
Originally Posted by In Yo Nostril

Originally Posted by JOE CAMEL SMOOTH

lot of speculation going on here though....the guy barely drank, dont think he took diuretics, didnt take all the aas listed, etc.

congenital heart condition for sure.....i have done most of the +**@ he has done (not all.....tren dnp clen never done) and im his age, 22. im in perfect health as far as i know.....definitely no heart problems.

sound a little paranoid over there bro.
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seriously though, im sure this was an anomaly

oops didnt meant to come across that way....i was saying ive done it and im fine, most people who do turn out ok, it was definitely the heart problem im guessing. 
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Originally Posted by finnns2003

Originally Posted by JOE CAMEL SMOOTH

Originally Posted by Nako XL


true... but you know you was mirin...
well like anything else its for each person to decide....but you need to educate yourself if you plan on using them. not that he hadnt. he probably just had a defect he was born with, maybe all that stuff exacerbated it or maybe it woulda happened anyway. rip
I have heard that this combination can be lethal. Supplements, stimulants, lots of heavy lifting, and putting #@%^ in your body that hasn't been tested over a say... 50 year period. Not saying he was clueless as to what he was putting into his body, but how can any of us really know what goes in the things we eat and take?
If you're under the age of 25 how can you really know though, anyway? It's said in the get back in shape thread by a few..myself and I know Hank Moody.

Eating healthy, power and strength workouts, and maybe some protein is all you need to develop a great body. People are so damn hell bent on cheap and quick ways that even if their bodies are sufficient they feel they can do more just because they haven't gone to the extremes.

  
 
^its more than that though....its addicting, youre never satisfied with your physique, especially if you stay natural. i was pretty ripped but i still felt i had to juice to get to where i wanted to go. gonna do it again starting sept, im not even close to satisfied.
 
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