Thread about Jesus - Questions, Bible Verses and Prayer Requests

Seek faults? There's nothing to "seek" when it's in plain view. The thought of a person who has NEVER sinned is also something to question. You mean to tell me that even as a kid jesus has done NO wrong? I know the response will be "kids don't know so it doesn't count" but at what age does it? What exactly is "not sinning" then? It's not a sin if you're unaware, or "child like"?


I like how you've dodged the responses and instead inserted something that had nothing to do with the topic a legitimate answer or response to a question isn't "you shouldn't ask questions".


You've posted gods law, yet that law was said to be changed later as the bible progressed. So did God change his laws?

DurtyRaspburry said:

Well buddy, You don't want to repent and trust in Christ,
so you will only seek faults and discoveries to try to disprove His Word

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I don't need to do all that. I don't need to disprove his word when I question his existence (talking about Jesus) let alone what was written that was attributed to him decades and centuries after his death (if he was ever alive)

There's really no reason to accept your christ in comparison to other religions if I were to ever consider adhering to one

so you won't have to submit to the truth.[/CONTENTEMBED]

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If you believe in a lie and call it the truth it doesn't make you right or righteous. If you weren't just parroting stuff right now maybe there could be a healthy exchange of ideas. Unfortunately you have a train of thought that avoids reason.

Your conscience was given by Him to inform you of your sins.[/CONTENTEMBED]
Whether or not the lies of the world have desensitized your conscience of its alarm[/CONTENTEMBED]
 wont change the fact God's law remains.[/CONTENTEMBED]

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This that pagan talk for real.

Thou shalt not not murder (hate, or curse others.)[/CONTENTEMBED]
Thou shalt not lie.[/CONTENTEMBED]
Thou shalt not commit adultery (look at a woman with lust)[/CONTENTEMBED]

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All things socities came up with before this bastardized religion.

Know your history.

Thou shalt have no other gods before God[/CONTENTEMBED]
Thou shall not blaspheme the name of God (OMG, JC)[/CONTENTEMBED]

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A truly jealous and self centered GOD indeed.

Thou shalt steal (even a M&M)[/CONTENTEMBED]

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Gotta hope a "not" was missing here.

But again, you should open your mind to common sense.

We are all guilty of these sins[/CONTENTEMBED]

and all deserve damnation.[/CONTENTEMBED]

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Speak for yourself.

[thread="602374"]But the Lord is a God of grace and glory and has[/thread]
invited all to life, through Christ alone.[/CONTENTEMBED]

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*YAWN*

Maybe you were probably lost in life and confused but that doesn't make it okay to abandon a reasonable approach to life.

Keep that doubt in your thoughts to battle this foolish path bruh. Blind faith aint the way.

DurtyRaspburry said:

Master Zik said:

I don't believe in the concept of sin.

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I'll pass on assumptions.

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Again stop projecting.

How did this happen? It's understood that Jesus was a Jew so....
[h1]  [/h1][h1]Daniel 10:5-65 I lifted up my eyes and looked, and behold, a man clothed in linen, with a belt of finegold from Uphaz around his waist.  6 His body was like beryl, his face like the appearance of lightning, his eyes like flaming torches, his arms and legs like the gleam of burnished bronze, and the sound of his words like the sound of a multitude.[/h1]


So how did jesus and his people go from that to ,,,,



Furthermore, its been stated on multiple occasions that christianity is a hybrid of many prior religions, but predominantly egyptian. It says that Jesus body was beryl and bronze. In other words he was brown and green. To me it seems more logical that the bible, or rather the texts it copied was describing this person 



as opposed to this person

 

also

Akhenaten's Hymn = Psalm 104 
[table][tr][td]Psalm 104 Hebrew[/td][td]verse[/td][td]Hymn to the sun line / keyword 
(red = out of sequence)[/td][td]Psalm 104 English[/td][/tr][tr][td][/td][td]  20[/td][td]
25 The earth is in darkness like the dead
31  All Serpents [creeping things] they sting[/td][td]you make darkness and it becomes night
in it creep all the lives of the forest[/td][/tr][tr][td][/td][td]21[/td][td]30 Every Lion  comes forth from his den, [/td][td]the young lions roar at their prey
and seek from God their meat[/td][/tr][tr][td][/td][td]22[/td][td]34 Bright is the earth when you rise in the horizon.[/td][td]the sun appears
they pride themselves
and in their dens they make their home[/td][/tr][tr][td][/td][td]23[/td][td]41 Then in all the world they do their work.[/td][td]the human goes forth to his work
and to his services till evening[/td][/tr][tr][td][/td][td]24[/td][td]68  How manifold it is, what thou hast made!
74  whatever is on earth [/td][td]how many your works יְהוָה
all of them in wisdom you have made
the whole earth is your possession[/td][/tr][tr][td][/td][td]25[/td][td]53 Your rays are in the midst of the great green sea.[/td][td]There is the great sea and wide of hand
there organisms
and there is no number of those living
small with great[/td][/tr][tr][td][/td][td]26[/td][td]49 The barges [ships] sail 
upstream and downstream alike.
52 The fish in the river leap before you.[/td][td]there go the ships
Leviathan that you formed to play there[/td][/tr][tr][td][/td][td]27[/td][td][indeterminate line number] 
When the fledgling in the egg
chirps in the shell
You give him breath to preserve him alive.
77 You supply its necessities[/td][td]all of them look to you
to give their food in its time[/td][/tr][tr][td][/td][td]28[/td][td]... To chirp with all his might.[/td][td]you give to them
they glean
You open your hand
they are satisfied with good[/td][/tr][tr][td][/td][td]29[/td][td]the translation on the web does not 
allow any further gloss highlights.[/td][td]you hide your face
they are disturbed
you will gather their spirit
they expire and to the dust they return[/td][/tr][tr][td][/td][td]30[/td][td].[/td][td]you send out your spirit
they are created
and you renew the face of the earth[/td][/tr][/table]
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@hallywoodxo The being that's described in that Daniel passage is from heaven and has a glorified body. Different from what we are right now and built to be incorruptible and eternal.

Everything below that, I don't know. Good for me to look into though. Just like that Daniel passage. It's not clear who that is that appeared to Daniel since they never said their name....but given the description it kinda is

I downloaded the Holy Bible app and the Essential 100 plan

I'm not religious but my mom has S4 cancer and she's heavenly in the bible so I did it so we can bond

Not sure if this has any relevance to this thread but just put it in here

heLiumcLinton said:

I downloaded the Holy Bible app and the Essential 100 plan

I'm not religious but my mom has S4 cancer and she's heavenly in the bible so I did it so we can bond

Not sure if this has any relevance to this thread but just put it in here

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Blessings to you and your mom.

heLiumcLinton said:

I downloaded the Holy Bible app and the Essential 100 plan

I'm not religious but my mom has S4 cancer and she's heavenly in the bible so I did it so we can bond

Not sure if this has any relevance to this thread but just put it in here

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Definitely relevant and will keep your fam in prayer.

What's in the Essential 100 plan?

heLiumcLinton said:

I downloaded the Holy Bible app and the Essential 100 plan

I'm not religious but my mom has S4 cancer and she's heavenly in the bible so I did it so we can bond

Not sure if this has any relevance to this thread but just put it in here

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1 Corinthians 15:42-44
So will it be with the resurrection of the dead. The body that is sown is perishable, it is raised imperishable; it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body.

MrDozo said:

Between all the bashing, sarcasam and lack of effort in reading verses I and others have posted in response to questions I feel like this....

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Christianity is a relationship between YOU & GOD. Dont judge christianity based on someone elses performance/behavior as a christian. We all have the ability to do what we want, therefore some Christians are more mature than others. Some are liars and hippocrites. Some use the name of God for their own advantage when they themselves dont have an actual relationship with The Lord. A mature christian does not judge others, because they know they sin themselves. No one is perfect. No christian is sinless. We all should strive to be more like Him everyday. Yes, its impossible, but the closer you can get to being like Him, the more glory He is given.

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TRUE THAT....
I respect you OP for starting this thread because I'm a man of GOD also but most people that reject GOD are people that want to live their life freely with no rules & no morals or they have went through something so painful in there life they have just given up & they are angry with the world & GOD.....Alot of things in Science are based on pure therory like evolution none of us here has seen a turtle turn into a whale or a dog turn into a snake so how can I believe that based on a therory?? I personally & I know that many others that believe in GOD & JESUS CHIRST have went through personal trials in our lives that has made us see that nothing but GOD could have brought me through that....Like my man who post his moms got S4 cancer thats a personally trial the brother is going through & thats not a laughing or sarcastic matter to play around with for those that do that type of thing to people who have Christian beliefs like myself...

CashBanks said:

Blessings to you and your mom.

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Thanks man, I appreciate it.

Retro23J said:

Definitely relevant and will keep your fam in prayer.

What's in the Essential 100 plan?

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I would post it but I can't upload from NT Mobile. It's a reading plan for beginners of the bible that outline the most common scriptures and passages that you should read. I guess it's to try to keep someone consistent and somewhat interested. My mom and I decided to do it twice a day so it's really Essential 50 for us

Appreciate the prayers also!

http://riveroflifelutheran.org/documents/e100_planner.pdf

hallywoodxo said:

1 Corinthians 15:42-44
So will it be with the resurrection of the dead. The body that is sown is perishable, it is raised imperishable; it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body.

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Amen bro, I'm sending this to her right now.

Real talk man, I know you and I go at it in here but that's all jokes and time wasting. I'm very sorry to hear that and I hope for the best for your situation.

heLiumcLinton said:

I downloaded the Holy Bible app and the Essential 100 plan

I'm not religious but my mom has S4 cancer and she's heavenly in the bible so I did it so we can bond

Not sure if this has any relevance to this thread but just put it in here

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Prayed and I will continue to pray for you and the family.

Am happy to see you are getting into the bible and I do hope the 

Holy Spirit does His work in your heart as he did in mine.

Theres no place better to be in than in Christ in suffering

and tribulation.

heLiumcLinton said:

I downloaded the Holy Bible app and the Essential 100 plan

I'm not religious but my mom has S4 cancer and she's heavenly in the bible so I did it so we can bond

Not sure if this has any relevance to this thread but just put it in here

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We've had our words in the past, but that really sucks and I'm sorry to hear that.

Hoping for the best.

BradNSU said:

TRUE THAT....
I respect you OP for starting this thread because I'm a man of GOD also but most people that reject GOD are people that want to live their life freely with no rules & no morals or they have went through something so painful in there life they have just given up & they are angry with the world & GOD.....Alot of things in Science are based on pure therory like evolution none of us here has seen a turtle turn into a whale or a dog turn into a snake so how can I believe that based on a therory?? I personally & I know that many others that believe in GOD & JESUS CHIRST have went through personal trials in our lives that has made us see that nothing but GOD could have brought me through that....Like my man who post his moms got S4 cancer thats a personally trial the brother is going through & thats not a laughing or sarcastic matter to play around with for those that do that type of thing to people who have Christian beliefs like myself...

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Thank mate, all the glory to God for its place on NT.

The hecklers are the key to drawing attention and

the beauty of an open forum are the lurkers.

I definitely agree brother.

God gives us tribulation to show that we don't have things under

control and that us sinners do need the Lord. But in Christ when 

suffering and trials come along we know He does it for character improvement

and the strengthening of our trust in Him.

All we can do is pray for the Lord to humble their hearts. 

hallywoodxo said:

 

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As @Retro23J  said.

Regarding the Copy cat claims.

If you look at the original source of Horus and Mithra and the other gods of the Romans and

Egyptians, you'll see that the myths bear little, if any, similarities to Jesus.

Isis, Horus's mother, was not a virgin, rather a widow who conceived him with Osiris,

Horus did not die for sins, Horus did not resurrect, but was brought back to life by Isis

Etc.

Tactics to cloud righteousness in unrighteousness.

You can test Matthew, Mark, Luke and John to see the accounts are historical.

Don't spend your whole life attempting to disprove Christ's sovereignty,

its no good for your soul.

All knees will bow, and all tongues will confess that Jesus is Lord

Yawn.

So what about everything else I posted?

And what makes you think you've got a better understanding of the Christ energy that I do?

Multiple times in this thread I've used your logic against you, explained what the bible really meant and showed it's true origins.

BradNSU said:

MrDozo said:

Between all the bashing, sarcasam and lack of effort in reading verses I and others have posted in response to questions I feel like this....

View media item 1167154
Christianity is a relationship between YOU & GOD. Dont judge christianity based on someone elses performance/behavior as a christian. We all have the ability to do what we want, therefore some Christians are more mature than others. Some are liars and hippocrites. Some use the name of God for their own advantage when they themselves dont have an actual relationship with The Lord. A mature christian does not judge others, because they know they sin themselves. No one is perfect. No christian is sinless. We all should strive to be more like Him everyday. Yes, its impossible, but the closer you can get to being like Him, the more glory He is given.

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TRUE THAT....
I respect you OP for starting this thread because I'm a man of GOD also but most people that reject GOD are people that want to live their life freely with no rules & no morals or they have went through something so painful in there life they have just given up & they are angry with the world & GOD.....Alot of things in Science are based on pure therory like evolution none of us here has seen a turtle turn into a whale or a dog turn into a snake so how can I believe that based on a therory?? I personally & I know that many others that believe in GOD & JESUS CHIRST have went through personal trials in our lives that has made us see that nothing but GOD could have brought me through that....Like my man who post his moms got S4 cancer thats a personally trial the brother is going through & thats not a laughing or sarcastic matter to play around with for those that do that type of thing to people who have Christian beliefs like myself...

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This is so stupid.

Educate yourself and stop perpetuating ignorance.

I know it's so much easier to believe and accept a lie that preys on your gullibility, hope, and ignorance as opposed to sitting down and understanding something complex but c'mon son.

Master Zik said:

This is so stupid.

Educate yourself and stop perpetuating ignorance.

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Man knock it off Science is you God not mines why are you talking to me though?? I been on NT since 05' never seen your name pop up in any thread around here & personally I would like to keep it that way run along...

BradNSU said:

Master Zik said:

This is so stupid.

Educate yourself and stop perpetuating ignorance.

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You must be white....

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Wow. This is another stupid and prejudice remark. I was giving you more credit than I should so I guess you must be the type to champion and revel in your ignorance. Aint no educating your folk.

I'm a black man btw. I actually hope you're not a minority.

Master Zik said:

This is so stupid.

Educate yourself and stop perpetuating ignorance.

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This is how religion is destructive to critical thinking...homie is denying straight up FACTS. FYI, the whole "theory" BS is ignorant - if you've ever taken a college science class, you would know theories are composed of facts and substantial evidence.

You know what else is a theory? Gravity. And I'm sure you would agree that exists, yes?

Not to mention there's a difference between a scientific theory and the layman's theory.

Son actually said we aint never seen a dog evolve in to a snake You don't understand the basics of evolution to try and dismiss it so easily by saying it's "based on pure theory"

I'd hope dude is young so he could at least learn something later in life and if not simply not speak on it ever again.

 @ "You must be white". I find it pretty offensive, on top of ignorant, that he thinks that only white people can believe in evolution   

If was completely uncalled for, but for what it's worth you never see melanated people featured in the "evolution" theory.

True but unfortunately, it's almost to be expected at this point 

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If was completely uncalled for, but for what it's worth you never see melanated people featured in the "evolution" theory.

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True

The whole scientific model of depicting evolution within man conveniently avoids ppl with melanin despite Africa being the cradle of civilization but son about to go down the rabbit whole of science being a white man's thing. I'd rather choke and die on that ignorance than live with it.