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DBZ was the best . Except for the episode long grunting's
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Yep Yep. Homie was cocky as a ***** then complained like a ***** when he loses. Just because he was a prince of a warrior race which got forced into slavery by a sexually questonable alien he had a chip on him. Sadly when I think about the show one of the biggest problems was
I won't even bother posting the vid of him crying like a biotch to Goku so he could beat Freeza cuz he coudln't, deluding himself thinking he was a SS.
Son has taken Ls to Goku, Gohan, Freeza, android 17 & 18, Cell, Buu, Broly, a whole bunch of other movie villains, etc. After his arc of being a villain he develops in to a face heel turn ally where his sole purpose has been to face the main villain all cocky like just to lose and prop up the that villain until Goku or Gohan come and save the day.
If it wasn't for Trunks he'd be worthless to me. Vegeta always struck as me an emotionally damaged dude with a huge ego yet extremely insecure about one dude.
That is a better pairing and the show would've been less annoying with her out of it but I"m sure some things might've been lost in translation about ChiChi's purpose.Yep Yep. Homie was cocky as a ***** then complained like a ***** when he loses. Just because he was a prince of a warrior race which got forced into slavery by a sexually questonable alien he had a chip on him. Sadly when I think about the show one of the biggest problems was
I won't even bother posting the vid of him crying like a biotch to Goku so he could beat Freeza cuz he coudln't, deluding himself thinking he was a SS.
Son has taken Ls to Goku, Gohan, Freeza, android 17 & 18, Cell, Buu, Broly, a whole bunch of other movie villains, etc. After his arc of being a villain he develops in to a face heel turn ally where his sole purpose has been to face the main villain all cocky like just to lose and prop up the that villain until Goku or Gohan come and save the day.
If it wasn't for Trunks he'd be worthless to me. Vegeta always struck as me an emotionally damaged dude with a huge ego yet extremely insecure about one dude.
Imagine how better the show would have been with
As a couple
Gohan would have had Gokus strength and Bulma's smarts. I mean he already seen the P on MULTIPLE occasion's.
First off those things aren't even in my post. Where did I say Vegeta always needs to be bailed out? I said he usually loses to the main villain to make the villain look good where then Goku comes in to win. Also I never said Gohan was a better character than Vegeta or even compared them, just that Gohan is stronger. Also how did Gohan find a way to lose against Cell because of his arrogance? He killed Cell at the end of the Cell Games arc.You serious man? You cant be. Catching Ls left and right? Always needing someone to bail them out? Crying over things? Sounds like you just describe Gohan to me. Despite being the strongest character in the show at two different points, by a large margin he still somehow found a way to lose the fights and need someone to bail him out cause of his arrogance, and that was with all the natural talent he had.@ all you Vegeta fans mad he's forever 2nd and most likely 3rd place.
I won't even bother posting the vid of him crying like a biotch to Goku so he coudl beat Freeza.
Son has taken Ls to Goku, Gohan, Freeza, android 17
Vegeta on the other hand walked into fights where he already knew he was outmatched but being a punk wasnt an option for him. Hes the epitome of being a man in that show. He didnt have natural talent either it was all hard work for Vegeta.
How about this. This is Kid Buu, the same Kid Buu who dominated Goku for 99% of the fight, even with SSJ3. Goku was scared out his mind and was about to give up, and who stepped in to bail him out? Vegeta. I mean who else had Majin Buu scared and backing away? Vegeta did that.[if IE]><embed src="" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="640" height="390" /><![endif]
YOU HAVE A TERRIBLE TERRIBLE TERRIBLE MEMORY.Come on man this guy did it at despite not being as strong as everyone else. Everyone else got help but Vegeta. Goku got to train while being dead TWICE with no living limitations to slow him down, he went in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber TWICE, Learning Kaoken from King Kai, Instant Transmission, Gohan got his powers unlocked by TWO people, and got to go in the HTC, and to top it all off they always were training with people, never alone. Where was Vegetas help? Nowhere thats where. He had to train alone all the time with no help whatsoever and still kept up with them.
So what if he devised the plan to beat Buu? Did I ever say Vegeta was dumb? One plan does not make him a master strategist btwWho was the guy who devised the plan to finish off Kid Buu? Vegeta? Oh you dont say. He was the only guy there who actually thought things out and had plans. Vegeta= Master strategist.
Not to mention that Vegetas parenting skills> Gokus. Goku was out there raising softies. Trunks was a man from day one. He didnt just talked about loving his kid, he acted on it. He killed himself cause he loved his son[[if IE]><embed src="" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="640" height="390" /><![endif]/QUOTE]
Goku was raising softies yet Gohan was still stronger than Vegeta
@ posting a vid of when Vegeta joined the bad side just to get help with a boost in power.
What you mean Trunks was a man from day one? The same Trunks that was best friends with Goten and loved having fun and playing around?
I really don't give a **** about this example, so what if Vegeta "died" for his kid? Goku sacrificed himself for billions. My post is not an argument about who was the better fatherAnd dont come in here with that "Goku took Cell away when he was going to explode" Goku didnt do that for his kid, he did that for Earth and cause GOHAN SCREWED UP.
So what? It's Yamcha man. The character that didn't show up after what the Cell arc? You want some extra points for bringing that up?Vegeta bagged Bulma too even with Yamcha sweating her all the time.
pokemon >
flame on
I am not going to lie to you N's. I cried when Vegeta hugged Trunks and then offed himself against Majin Buu.
Please child. I couldn't care less if that's what you've come to as far as his character. I didn't like his character. Not saying he didn't have a purpose but overall I just find it funny how that's the guy most ppl are a fan ofpipe down kid...Vegeta is that dude...yeah he took Ls but the point was he never backed down from anything...he was only the way he was out of self-defense for his people. Somebody has to take the Ls...Vegeta's character is about learning karma.
bardock went out like scarface, son was a gYou have to give it up to this dude
Yo his story was some of the best story telling this franchise ever had.bardock went out like scarface, son was a gYou have to give it up to this dude
The ear rings probably work better [pause]I remember back in grade school me and my boy tried doing the fusion dance to see if it'd work. We was so disappointed
Well you took that wrong then. I'm just bringing up that he literally was crying and begging for Goku to do what he couldn't. It's one of the main things that stuck out about him for me.You said he cried to Goku about losing to Frieza, I took that as crying about things.
Hey that just continues to separate Goku from everybody else, word to that meme. Overcoming obstacles. As a young kid watching this I am not trying to identify with the character being logical about some big bad and then being frozen by fear to the point he won't even attempt to fight. It's coo though cuz Vegeta overcame his fear in the end a bit despite being owned.That Broly thing was a legitimate complaint by Vegeta. If you get told day after day that something is the most powerful being in existence what would make you want to fight it?
Again I aint trying to hear you rationalize Vegeta's initial actions. It's just reasons like that why I wasn't a big fan. Yeah the other Earthlings will be scared like Krillin but they always dove in to fight anyway. Vegeta is the opposite, loud and cocky until he loses. He did it against Freeza after deluding himself in to thinking he was a SS and it's just something apart of his character that made me not care for dude.Goku wasnt afraid of Broly because of sheer ignorance, same goes for everyone else. Vegetas fear of Broly was institutionalized. I dont think he was stronger than 17 or 18, not even close. No one was as strong as they were at that point and even Trunks said so. Vegeta just wasnt trying to hear it and because of that got beat down.
Initially I was just saying I don't like Vegeta and then said why I don't like him in my next post, nothing about who was the best character cuz quite frankly characterzation in this show was pretty simple and cut and dry. My favorite character was future Trunks, he was cool, had that sword but honestly the best character was Goku. He wasn't a badass and didn't need to be, always got stronger, never gave up, went down as a legend, and even as a dead man was still on his grind becoming stronger and stronger.I really was making an assumption that you thought Gohan or Goku were the best characters. If it isnt Vegeta then who is it. Master Roshi? Seemed like a good assumption to make on my part.
Gohan's just a **** up but he did get the job done in the end. The way I see it that's just how he was gonna be wit his mother raising him. So Piccolo failed but tried his best to make dude a badass.I brought the Gohan comparison into it because all of the things you said about Vegeta were vintage Gohan. Gohan did screw up that fight. He was dominating the fight and had a ton of time to show off and when Goku told him to end it, what did Gohan do? He said no cause he wanted to make him suffer for a while, his exact words were "I want him to suffer for a while" Then what did Cell do? Activate the bomb inside of him and Gohan dropped to his knees and started crying. Goku had to bail him out. His immaturity continued when he was an adult too he did the same thing with Super Buu. His cockiness made him lose again. This guy used to be my favorite growing up but all he does is screw things up.
The way I remember it, they went in the HTC first while Cell was still at his 1st level and during that time he managed to get his 2nd level after eating the boy android while fighting 16, Piccolo and a few others. When Vegeta and future Trunks got out he fought Cell for a while until Cell convinced him to become perfect. Cell then beat up Vegeta, while he was unconscious future Trunks thought he had got to the ascended level of a SS and ended up losing to Cell too. Cell then said he'd give Goku and them other dudes a chance and said he start the Cell games in a few days challenging anybody on the planet, during that brief period of time Vegeta and Trunks went back in to the HTC but still didn't reach SS2, after that Goku and Gohan went in one more time just in time for the fight.Did Vegeta go in the HTC twice? I only remember him going once, and that was training for the Cell Games with Trunks. I didnt count that spaceship from Bulma as help, but if we are going to count it then Goku had one too so thats cancelled out anyways. I dont think purposely going under Babidis control is help either, its not like it made him stronger at most all it did was invoke the emotional state necessary for SSJ2. It doesnt compare to Goku getting to train while dead for 7 years. 7 years with no fatigue, with no need for downtime. He did hog the Senzu beans though you're right about that.
What plans? I'll never agree he was the best character in DBZ. What was his plan the first time he fought Goku? He thought he was stronger and was proven wrong and then Goku let him live and leave. Yeah he and Nappa killed a bunch of humans and Piccolo but he was a villain in that arc and you knew he was gonna lose.Vegeta thinking out things just simply shows whys hes the best character. He doesnt blindly walk into fights hoping things will be ok. He had a plan against Goku the first time, he had a plan the second time, its just what he does.
Again I'm not about to compare the children who weren't developed much and just given fusion to pad time and extend that saga. I don't really care who was the better at raising serious children that were strong or w/e. It's not important at all if what you're talking about is who was the better character.Gohans stronger than Vegeta, but theres no doubt that hes soft mentally. Same for Goten. Trunks is a kid, no doubt that he wants to have fun, but he was still serious when it was time to be, cant really say the same for Goten. What happend when they fought? Goten was just flying around doing whatever.
This is bull ****. Dragonball Z is Goku's show. If he didn't have the most effect on the show no one else did. Without Goku Vegeta would still be at a power level below 9000, Goku was Vegeta's measuring stick and motivator to get stronger. That was confirmed in the Buu saga when he went to the bad side just to have an excuse to fight him for real. During that whole tournament he was fiending to fight Goku. How can Vegeta have more effect on the series than Goku? THE MAIN CHARACTER?In terms of the effect that the character had on the series no ones touching Vegeta.
It aint nothing but eh if I knew off jump I was arguing Vegeta is not the best character in the show it would've been pretty easy and cut and dry.Its all love though, I'm just glad that someones actually challenging me on this I'm having fun arguing about it.
Search for Videostream or Plex.i need to find a way to watch this online now that i shattered my iphone screen and can't use the jailbreak stream.
sidenote but anyone know if there's a way i could stream videos from my iphone to my macbook?
Loved this show when I was younger...probably my favorite along with Yuyu Hakusho. But it's one of those shows/films that are hard to rewatch because the pace was slow at times.
Some of my favorite moments from the show:
I remember back in grade school me and my boy tried doing the fusion dance to see if it'd work. We was so disappointed
Slifer the Sky Dragonsaw the ep when gohan taught videl how to fly
tried to fly
failed
didnt watch another ep for a couple of days.
yugioh>>>pokemon in terms of tv shows
WHAT????? After I got done with DBZ I watched every episode of YuYu Hakusho that show was amazing I honestly liked it more that I watched it now than I did back then. The 3 Kings saga had some meh writing at times but other than that it was all top notch. How could you not love this show Yusuke Yurameshi was and forever will be that dude. He stepped to Tugoro with the Spirit Cuffs on just to mess with him Yusukes swagger was always over 9000. My one gripe with that show was that it was too short. They could have and should have done more.I downloaded yuyu recently and watched it. It was horrible. I loved it when I was a kid, but I just see so much wrong with it now. Bad animation, cheesy and really bad writing. I still love it from a nostalgia POV tho.Loved this show when I was younger...probably my favorite along with Yuyu Hakusho. But it's one of those shows/films that are hard to rewatch because the pace was slow at times.
Some of my favorite moments from the show: