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why are people making excuses for a device that doesn't have da MUST HAVES on it and spin in into "well its got potential" F that.....this isn't da NBA draft, i'll wait till da goods isOriginally Posted by Boys Noize
I'm with you.Originally Posted by 3onPar5
I think again people are failing to see the POTENTIAL of this device. I know my kid would love to have this in the app in the backseat while driving somewhere. For a kid of today this is the new Nintendo, or whatever toy was big back in the day. The iPad will be an amazing device. Give it a year.
The vast majority of NTer's seem to be really short sighted.
nah.. hating on Apple is the latest hype.Originally Posted by proper english
Originally Posted by WallyHopp
whats next? an audio version included.. why not just watch the movie?
it does seem a bit unneccersary.. reinventing something that doesnt NEED it
so are a lot of video gamesthe hell is everyones point in here?
Boys Noize wrote:
3onPar5 wrote:
I think again people are failing to see the POTENTIAL of this device. I know my kid would love to have this in the app in the backseat while driving somewhere. For a kid of today this is the new Nintendo, or whatever toy was big back in the day. The iPad will be an amazing device. Give it a year.
The reason the iPad's potential is talked about is because it's application driven. Just like a regular laptop is completely useless without actual applications on it, the iPad won't be great until the developers get to work and start churning things out. When computer's were first being put out, they paled in comparison to what we have now right? The iPad is a completely new platform and it JUST came out yet people are expecting this first incarnation to be the end all be all, like that ever happens with any piece of technology. The iPad is only as good as the programs it can run and the potential for amazing applications is extremely high. Multi-touch capabilities plus the devices size gives it a ton of room to grow. Developers can create things on this that would have been impossible on the iTouch/iPhone.Originally Posted by ninjahood
why are people making excuses for a device that doesn't have da MUST HAVES on it and spin in into "well its got potential" F that.....this isn't da NBA draft, i'll wait till da goods isOriginally Posted by Boys Noize
I'm with you.Originally Posted by 3onPar5
I think again people are failing to see the POTENTIAL of this device. I know my kid would love to have this in the app in the backseat while driving somewhere. For a kid of today this is the new Nintendo, or whatever toy was big back in the day. The iPad will be an amazing device. Give it a year.
The vast majority of NTer's seem to be really short sighted.
on da machine THEN you can talk about how good it is instead of how good it MIGHT be...
for the love of athena and all her wisdomOriginally Posted by Boys Noize
The reason the iPad's potential is talked about is because it's application driven. Just like a regular laptop is completely useless without actual applications on it, the iPad won't be great until the developers get to work and start churning things out. When computer's were first being put out, they paled in comparison to what we have now right? The iPad is a completely new platform and it JUST came out yet people are expecting this first incarnation to be the end all be all, like that ever happens with any piece of technology. The iPad is only as good as the programs it can run and the potential for amazing applications is extremely high. Multi-touch capabilities plus the devices size gives it a ton of room to grow. Developers can create things on this that would have been impossible on the iTouch/iPhone.Originally Posted by ninjahood
why are people making excuses for a device that doesn't have da MUST HAVES on it and spin in into "well its got potential" F that.....this isn't da NBA draft, i'll wait till da goods isOriginally Posted by Boys Noize
I'm with you.Originally Posted by 3onPar5
I think again people are failing to see the POTENTIAL of this device. I know my kid would love to have this in the app in the backseat while driving somewhere. For a kid of today this is the new Nintendo, or whatever toy was big back in the day. The iPad will be an amazing device. Give it a year.
The vast majority of NTer's seem to be really short sighted.
on da machine THEN you can talk about how good it is instead of how good it MIGHT be...
I empathize that it's disappointing that the iPad doesn't include several things but these are things that I believe will be rectified in future incarnations + firmware updates. With that being said, I think too many people are taking for granted the things the iPad DOES have and are making too big a deal about what it lacks.
btw, I don't own an iPad and don't plan to pick up a first generation one. I do, however, recognize that this thing will be extraordinarily successful and will revolutionize how we consume media.
Originally Posted by shatterkneesinc
for the love of athena and all her wisdomOriginally Posted by Boys Noize
The reason the iPad's potential is talked about is because it's application driven. Just like a regular laptop is completely useless without actual applications on it, the iPad won't be great until the developers get to work and start churning things out. When computer's were first being put out, they paled in comparison to what we have now right? The iPad is a completely new platform and it JUST came out yet people are expecting this first incarnation to be the end all be all, like that ever happens with any piece of technology. The iPad is only as good as the programs it can run and the potential for amazing applications is extremely high. Multi-touch capabilities plus the devices size gives it a ton of room to grow. Developers can create things on this that would have been impossible on the iTouch/iPhone.Originally Posted by ninjahood
why are people making excuses for a device that doesn't have da MUST HAVES on it and spin in into "well its got potential" F that.....this isn't da NBA draft, i'll wait till da goods isOriginally Posted by Boys Noize
I'm with you.Originally Posted by 3onPar5
I think again people are failing to see the POTENTIAL of this device. I know my kid would love to have this in the app in the backseat while driving somewhere. For a kid of today this is the new Nintendo, or whatever toy was big back in the day. The iPad will be an amazing device. Give it a year.
The vast majority of NTer's seem to be really short sighted.
on da machine THEN you can talk about how good it is instead of how good it MIGHT be...
I empathize that it's disappointing that the iPad doesn't include several things but these are things that I believe will be rectified in future incarnations + firmware updates. With that being said, I think too many people are taking for granted the things the iPad DOES have and are making too big a deal about what it lacks.
btw, I don't own an iPad and don't plan to pick up a first generation one. I do, however, recognize that this thing will be extraordinarily successful and will revolutionize how we consume media.
please can you apple fanboys just stop it
I was just going to say that, this would be perfect for kids. People act like Pop out books don't exist, they essentially serve the same purpose and it's to entertain children.Originally Posted by DaNiKeRhiNo
Originally Posted by proper english
Originally Posted by WallyHopp
whats next? an audio version included.. why not just watch the movie?
it does seem a bit unneccersary.. reinventing something that doesnt NEED it
so are a lot of video gamesthe hell is everyones point in here?
Boys Noize wrote:
3onPar5 wrote:
I think again people are failing to see the POTENTIAL of this device. I know my kid would love to have this in the app in the backseat while driving somewhere. For a kid of today this is the new Nintendo, or whatever toy was big back in the day. The iPad will be an amazing device. Give it a year.
Originally Posted by shatterkneesinc
for the love of athena and all her wisdomOriginally Posted by Boys Noize
The reason the iPad's potential is talked about is because it's application driven. Just like a regular laptop is completely useless without actual applications on it, the iPad won't be great until the developers get to work and start churning things out. When computer's were first being put out, they paled in comparison to what we have now right? The iPad is a completely new platform and it JUST came out yet people are expecting this first incarnation to be the end all be all, like that ever happens with any piece of technology. The iPad is only as good as the programs it can run and the potential for amazing applications is extremely high. Multi-touch capabilities plus the devices size gives it a ton of room to grow. Developers can create things on this that would have been impossible on the iTouch/iPhone.Originally Posted by ninjahood
why are people making excuses for a device that doesn't have da MUST HAVES on it and spin in into "well its got potential" F that.....this isn't da NBA draft, i'll wait till da goods isOriginally Posted by Boys Noize
I'm with you.Originally Posted by 3onPar5
I think again people are failing to see the POTENTIAL of this device. I know my kid would love to have this in the app in the backseat while driving somewhere. For a kid of today this is the new Nintendo, or whatever toy was big back in the day. The iPad will be an amazing device. Give it a year.
The vast majority of NTer's seem to be really short sighted.
on da machine THEN you can talk about how good it is instead of how good it MIGHT be...
I empathize that it's disappointing that the iPad doesn't include several things but these are things that I believe will be rectified in future incarnations + firmware updates. With that being said, I think too many people are taking for granted the things the iPad DOES have and are making too big a deal about what it lacks.
btw, I don't own an iPad and don't plan to pick up a first generation one. I do, however, recognize that this thing will be extraordinarily successful and will revolutionize how we consume media.
please can you apple fanboys just stop it
It's revolutionary because of how it will be able to present media. The medical industry will definitely be able to put this device to use to better interact with patients. I could see it being used to help doctors visualize better the vast amount of information on all the different patients they have. I could see this device being used in education. The multi-touch could be used in programs to better help students understand the material they're learning. Imagine having this thing in your kitchen with all of your recipe books consolidated into this thin device. Just in this post we already see an example of how the reading experience could be enhanced. I could see this being used in the business world to share and display information.Originally Posted by TacC4
How will the iPad revolutionize how we consume media? This thing going to download videos when I think about them? Or am I going to have to connect to the internet and find a non-flash source? Doesn't sound too revolutionary.
"iPad is only as good as the programs it can run..." You mean, like Flash?
I don't see why the iPad is so revolutionary and amazing. Its a big iPhone that can't make/receive calls and struggles to maintain a wifi signal. Congrats. Multi-touch? Wow, cool. Pinch-to-zoom is useless on a 10" screen. I don't see the iPad competing w/XBox and PS in the gaming realm. It does have a distinct advantage over the two in that users can play free games and w/downloads > DVDs it is easier for games to spread through social networks. But I only see that being relevant for things like Bejeweled or Farmville, neither of which I play or recognize as part of the "gaming industry."
Originally Posted by Boys Noize
It's revolutionary because of how it will be able to present media. The medical industry will definitely be able to put this device to use to better interact with patients. I could see it being used to help doctors visualize better the vast amount of information on all the different patients they have. I could see this device being used in education. The multi-touch could be used in programs to better help students understand the material they're learning. Imagine having this thing in your kitchen with all of your recipe books consolidated into this thin device. Just in this post we already see an example of how the reading experience could be enhanced. I could see this being used in the business world to share and display information.Originally Posted by TacC4
How will the iPad revolutionize how we consume media? This thing going to download videos when I think about them? Or am I going to have to connect to the internet and find a non-flash source? Doesn't sound too revolutionary.
"iPad is only as good as the programs it can run..." You mean, like Flash?
I don't see why the iPad is so revolutionary and amazing. Its a big iPhone that can't make/receive calls and struggles to maintain a wifi signal. Congrats. Multi-touch? Wow, cool. Pinch-to-zoom is useless on a 10" screen. I don't see the iPad competing w/XBox and PS in the gaming realm. It does have a distinct advantage over the two in that users can play free games and w/downloads > DVDs it is easier for games to spread through social networks. But I only see that being relevant for things like Bejeweled or Farmville, neither of which I play or recognize as part of the "gaming industry."
Honestly, there are so many possibilities for this thing, it's amazing that people are only thinking of what is already available as opposed to what may be possible. If there's an economic incentive, I don't see why these things won't come to fruition. Like anything else, if people can make money off it, people will innovate and create. It's simple.
As for Flash, Apple believes HTML5 is the future. We'll see how that goes.
Boys Noize wrote:
It's revolutionary because of how it will be able to present media. The medical industry will definitely be able to put this device to use to better interact with patients. I could see it being used to help doctors visualize better the vast amount of information on all the different patients they have. I could see this device being used in education. The multi-touch could be used in programs to better help students understand the material they're learning. Imagine having this thing in your kitchen with all of your recipe books consolidated into this thin device. Just in this post we already see an example of how the reading experience could be enhanced. I could see this being used in the business world to share and display information.
Honestly, there are so many possibilities for this thing, it's amazing that people are only thinking of what is already available as opposed to what may be possible. If there's an economic incentive, I don't see why these things won't come to fruition. Like anything else, if people can make money off it, people will innovate and create. It's simple.
As for Flash, Apple believes HTML5 is the future. We'll see how that goes.
How are the cooking/medical/military/educational applications any different than what we can get on other platforms? Touch screens are 30 years old, so the innovation is going to have to come from somewhere else. I don't see how an iPad revolutionizes the medical industry. My doctor takes his laptop from one room to the next as he visits patients, but I don't see how the iPad will improve that process. Your hypothetical patient database only relates to software that is not iPad-specific, so I have to ask again what specifically the iPad does to justify the time/money needed to transition from PCs. What, it eliminates a keyboard? That's kinda cool, but more of a cosmetic upgrade than anything. Same w/the recipes. Why can't I just take my laptop into the kitchen? At least then I could see the screen from across the kitchen - keep in mind the iPad is going to sit flat on the counter w/o some sort of stand. Toughbooks are bricks but I'm sure they can withstand much more of a beating than an iPad. And the portability of the iPad is part of the appeal, so its going to get dropped/smashed.
The best argument for the widespread adoption of the iPad is the idea that people are going to be falling all over themselves to get one. This means that developers will have to make apps that run on the iPad if they want their products to remain relevant. Therefore, the best products will only be available on the iPad and the fact that everyone else is using an iPad will be the reason you should buy an iPad. Ironically, this is the same argument that PC users have been making against Macs.
I'm no developer but I can definitely see the iPad being used to help with patient interaction. Being able to visually display to your patient what exactly may be wrong with them is extremely valuable. Currently, all doctor's have to interact with their patients is through conversation (and we all know how translating medical jargon into layman's terms is already difficult) and pages of reading material. I don't see how this won't help. Honestly, this is one of the more obvious things that will be eventually developed.Originally Posted by recycledpaper
Originally Posted by Boys Noize
It's revolutionary because of how it will be able to present media. The medical industry will definitely be able to put this device to use to better interact with patients. I could see it being used to help doctors visualize better the vast amount of information on all the different patients they have. I could see this device being used in education. The multi-touch could be used in programs to better help students understand the material they're learning. Imagine having this thing in your kitchen with all of your recipe books consolidated into this thin device. Just in this post we already see an example of how the reading experience could be enhanced. I could see this being used in the business world to share and display information.Originally Posted by TacC4
How will the iPad revolutionize how we consume media? This thing going to download videos when I think about them? Or am I going to have to connect to the internet and find a non-flash source? Doesn't sound too revolutionary.
"iPad is only as good as the programs it can run..." You mean, like Flash?
I don't see why the iPad is so revolutionary and amazing. Its a big iPhone that can't make/receive calls and struggles to maintain a wifi signal. Congrats. Multi-touch? Wow, cool. Pinch-to-zoom is useless on a 10" screen. I don't see the iPad competing w/XBox and PS in the gaming realm. It does have a distinct advantage over the two in that users can play free games and w/downloads > DVDs it is easier for games to spread through social networks. But I only see that being relevant for things like Bejeweled or Farmville, neither of which I play or recognize as part of the "gaming industry."
Honestly, there are so many possibilities for this thing, it's amazing that people are only thinking of what is already available as opposed to what may be possible. If there's an economic incentive, I don't see why these things won't come to fruition. Like anything else, if people can make money off it, people will innovate and create. It's simple.
As for Flash, Apple believes HTML5 is the future. We'll see how that goes.
how the %!%! is the ipad gonna help with patient interaction?
the recipes already ARE available in the kitchen, it's called "bring your @%*%%+* laptop into the kitchen"
and finally, i guess businesses weren't sharing information BEFORE the launch of the ipad? oh !%!* i forgot, they got powerpoint, projectors, business meeting printouts, phones, COMPUTERS, LAPTOPS, CELL PHONES, LOLOLOL
Originally Posted by Boys Noize
I'm no developer but I can definitely see the iPad being used to help with patient interaction. Being able to visually display to your patient what exactly may be wrong with them is extremely valuable. Currently, all doctor's have to interact with their patients is through conversation (and we all know how translating medical jargon into layman's terms is already difficult) and pages of reading material. I don't see how this won't help. Honestly, this is one of the more obvious things that will be eventually developed.Originally Posted by recycledpaper
Originally Posted by Boys Noize
It's revolutionary because of how it will be able to present media. The medical industry will definitely be able to put this device to use to better interact with patients. I could see it being used to help doctors visualize better the vast amount of information on all the different patients they have. I could see this device being used in education. The multi-touch could be used in programs to better help students understand the material they're learning. Imagine having this thing in your kitchen with all of your recipe books consolidated into this thin device. Just in this post we already see an example of how the reading experience could be enhanced. I could see this being used in the business world to share and display information.Originally Posted by TacC4
How will the iPad revolutionize how we consume media? This thing going to download videos when I think about them? Or am I going to have to connect to the internet and find a non-flash source? Doesn't sound too revolutionary.
"iPad is only as good as the programs it can run..." You mean, like Flash?
I don't see why the iPad is so revolutionary and amazing. Its a big iPhone that can't make/receive calls and struggles to maintain a wifi signal. Congrats. Multi-touch? Wow, cool. Pinch-to-zoom is useless on a 10" screen. I don't see the iPad competing w/XBox and PS in the gaming realm. It does have a distinct advantage over the two in that users can play free games and w/downloads > DVDs it is easier for games to spread through social networks. But I only see that being relevant for things like Bejeweled or Farmville, neither of which I play or recognize as part of the "gaming industry."
Honestly, there are so many possibilities for this thing, it's amazing that people are only thinking of what is already available as opposed to what may be possible. If there's an economic incentive, I don't see why these things won't come to fruition. Like anything else, if people can make money off it, people will innovate and create. It's simple.
As for Flash, Apple believes HTML5 is the future. We'll see how that goes.
how the %!%! is the ipad gonna help with patient interaction?
the recipes already ARE available in the kitchen, it's called "bring your @%*%%+* laptop into the kitchen"
and finally, i guess businesses weren't sharing information BEFORE the launch of the ipad? oh !%!* i forgot, they got powerpoint, projectors, business meeting printouts, phones, COMPUTERS, LAPTOPS, CELL PHONES, LOLOLOL
As for the recipe bit, sure you can bring your laptop into the kitchen but the iPad is an e-reader and one of it's purposes is to replace physical books. Your knock on this point isn't on the iPad, it's on e-readers. I just pointed this out for the iPad because the iPad is in color and is currently the most fleshed out e-reader on the market as far as developmental potential goes. This thread is about innovating the reading experienceCome on. Imagine being able to sift through recipes with built in Youtube videos on the page or animated instructions? I mean, they already do the embedded youtube videos for the NYTimes app, I don't see why they couldn't do it for recipe e-books.
and finally, just because businesses were sharing information before doesn't mean there can't be innovative new ways for that information to be shared. Are you kidding me? A part of innovation is taking a preexisting thing and bettering it. Just because you can already docertain things doesn't mean you can't always do it better. VCR's -VD's. Pencil's -> Pen's. Desktops -> Laptops. Cassette's ->iPods. The list goes on.
How are the cooking/medical/military/educational applications any different than what we can get on other platforms? Touch screens are 30 years old, so the innovation is going to have to come from somewhere else. I don't see how an iPad revolutionizes the medical industry. My doctor takes his laptop from one room to the next as he visits patients, but I don't see how the iPad will improve that process. Your hypothetical patient database only relates to software that is not iPad-specific, so I have to ask again what specifically the iPad does to justify the time/money needed to transition from PCs. What, it eliminates a keyboard? That's kinda cool, but more of a cosmetic upgrade than anything. Same w/the recipes. Why can't I just take my laptop into the kitchen? At least then I could see the screen from across the kitchen - keep in mind the iPad is going to sit flat on the counter w/o some sort of stand. Toughbooks are bricks but I'm sure they can withstand much more of a beating than an iPad. And the portability of the iPad is part of the appeal, so its going to get dropped/smashed.Originally Posted by TacC4
Boys Noize wrote:
It's revolutionary because of how it will be able to present media. The medical industry will definitely be able to put this device to use to better interact with patients. I could see it being used to help doctors visualize better the vast amount of information on all the different patients they have. I could see this device being used in education. The multi-touch could be used in programs to better help students understand the material they're learning. Imagine having this thing in your kitchen with all of your recipe books consolidated into this thin device. Just in this post we already see an example of how the reading experience could be enhanced. I could see this being used in the business world to share and display information.
Honestly, there are so many possibilities for this thing, it's amazing that people are only thinking of what is already available as opposed to what may be possible. If there's an economic incentive, I don't see why these things won't come to fruition. Like anything else, if people can make money off it, people will innovate and create. It's simple.
As for Flash, Apple believes HTML5 is the future. We'll see how that goes.
Originally Posted by shatterkneesinc
Originally Posted by Boys Noize
I'm no developer but I can definitely see the iPad being used to help with patient interaction. Being able to visually display to your patient what exactly may be wrong with them is extremely valuable. Currently, all doctor's have to interact with their patients is through conversation (and we all know how translating medical jargon into layman's terms is already difficult) and pages of reading material. I don't see how this won't help. Honestly, this is one of the more obvious things that will be eventually developed.Originally Posted by recycledpaper
Originally Posted by Boys Noize
It's revolutionary because of how it will be able to present media. The medical industry will definitely be able to put this device to use to better interact with patients. I could see it being used to help doctors visualize better the vast amount of information on all the different patients they have. I could see this device being used in education. The multi-touch could be used in programs to better help students understand the material they're learning. Imagine having this thing in your kitchen with all of your recipe books consolidated into this thin device. Just in this post we already see an example of how the reading experience could be enhanced. I could see this being used in the business world to share and display information.Originally Posted by TacC4
How will the iPad revolutionize how we consume media? This thing going to download videos when I think about them? Or am I going to have to connect to the internet and find a non-flash source? Doesn't sound too revolutionary.
"iPad is only as good as the programs it can run..." You mean, like Flash?
I don't see why the iPad is so revolutionary and amazing. Its a big iPhone that can't make/receive calls and struggles to maintain a wifi signal. Congrats. Multi-touch? Wow, cool. Pinch-to-zoom is useless on a 10" screen. I don't see the iPad competing w/XBox and PS in the gaming realm. It does have a distinct advantage over the two in that users can play free games and w/downloads > DVDs it is easier for games to spread through social networks. But I only see that being relevant for things like Bejeweled or Farmville, neither of which I play or recognize as part of the "gaming industry."
Honestly, there are so many possibilities for this thing, it's amazing that people are only thinking of what is already available as opposed to what may be possible. If there's an economic incentive, I don't see why these things won't come to fruition. Like anything else, if people can make money off it, people will innovate and create. It's simple.
As for Flash, Apple believes HTML5 is the future. We'll see how that goes.
how the %!%! is the ipad gonna help with patient interaction?
the recipes already ARE available in the kitchen, it's called "bring your @%*%%+* laptop into the kitchen"
and finally, i guess businesses weren't sharing information BEFORE the launch of the ipad? oh !%!* i forgot, they got powerpoint, projectors, business meeting printouts, phones, COMPUTERS, LAPTOPS, CELL PHONES, LOLOLOL
As for the recipe bit, sure you can bring your laptop into the kitchen but the iPad is an e-reader and one of it's purposes is to replace physical books. Your knock on this point isn't on the iPad, it's on e-readers. I just pointed this out for the iPad because the iPad is in color and is currently the most fleshed out e-reader on the market as far as developmental potential goes. This thread is about innovating the reading experienceCome on. Imagine being able to sift through recipes with built in Youtube videos on the page or animated instructions? I mean, they already do the embedded youtube videos for the NYTimes app, I don't see why they couldn't do it for recipe e-books.
and finally, just because businesses were sharing information before doesn't mean there can't be innovative new ways for that information to be shared. Are you kidding me? A part of innovation is taking a preexisting thing and bettering it. Just because you can already docertain things doesn't mean you can't always do it better. VCR's -VD's. Pencil's -> Pen's. Desktops -> Laptops. Cassette's ->iPods. The list goes on.