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co-sign...it works both waysOriginally Posted by bigtimejerky
Kobe fans are just as bad as LeBron fans
Are you guys ready for the Lebron Lovefest???
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Yup, but Quinn fans are worse than both of them.
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Quinn doesn't have fans, only devoted followers. They just love to hate on him because he's the king of the elves.
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Has begun ?
Where have you been the past 5 or 7 years. ESPN & NIKE have hyping up and riding Lebron's jock ever since his junior year in high school.
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Kobe that good of a shooter??
granted sons got all the moves to get his shot off....probably unrivalled in that sense, but as far as connecting?? I've seen just as many bad shootingperformances (if not more) as i have spectacular.
granted sons got all the moves to get his shot off....probably unrivalled in that sense, but as far as connecting?? I've seen just as many bad shootingperformances (if not more) as i have spectacular.
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Wow some people really don't have a clue....
I said begun meaning it happens every year, but we really don't get the OD coverage of Lebron until the beginning of basketball season
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Lebron James will never win a title with Kobe Bryant still in the league.
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How do you know that Kobe will start to decline soon???
People said the same thing about A.I...
Yet, A.I is...Well, he's still A.I. and dropping _'s off every night...
People said the same thing about A.I...
Yet, A.I is...Well, he's still A.I. and dropping _'s off every night...
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Kobe is CLEARLY better then Lebron and it's not even a question.
oh no.
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The play will speak for itself this year.
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"But he can't shoot"
"But he can't shoot"
"But he can't shoot"
"But he can't shoot"
"But he can't shoot"
"But he can't shoot"
"But he can't shoot"
"But he can't shoot"
All I ever hear...and all people got left when trying to pick apart his game. When he actually is not that bad of a shooter, and if he can't get by withouthaving Kobe's jumper....so.....
Clutch...hmm...LeBron's performances the past 2 years in the playoffs....can't use that now either, especially with that supporting cast.
Kobe...ehh...you be the judge.
Defensively...one yall kobe supporters liked to use in the past...LeBron turned it up another notch last year...we all know this...if you actually payedattention. Did you guys?
So throw that one out the window now as well...
Winning....no shaq...no winning...they're equal with a finals appearance each....but you tell me who had/has the better squad and coach..
Jump shot, mid range...
All that's left.
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"But he can't shoot"
"But he can't shoot"
"But he can't shoot"
"But he can't shoot"
"But he can't shoot"
"But he can't shoot"
"But he can't shoot"
"But he can't shoot"
All I ever hear...and all people got left when trying to pick apart his game. When he actually is not that bad of a shooter, and if he can't get by withouthaving Kobe's jumper....so.....
Clutch...hmm...LeBron's performances the past 2 years in the playoffs....can't use that now either, especially with that supporting cast.
Kobe...ehh...you be the judge.
Defensively...one yall kobe supporters liked to use in the past...LeBron turned it up another notch last year...we all know this...if you actually payedattention. Did you guys?
So throw that one out the window now as well...
Winning....no shaq...no winning...they're equal with a finals appearance each....but you tell me who had/has the better squad and coach..
Jump shot, mid range...
All that's left.
guard to a 6'9(probably 10)"
...no comment.
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What's really crazy is Bron is playing in awful offensive system and still doing what he's doing...you don't want him dribbling for 15 seconds?I'm sure he doesn't wana...blame the coaching. Where as Kobe has a system perfectly suited for him.
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But for whatever reason people on here want to see LeBron fail and the Cavs fail...the Cleveland thing? The hype? Whatever it is...how 90% of people said theWizards would knock them out, cause 1 player can't beat a team...
Continue to be let down, people...be my guest.
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Now for the record, I don't dislike Kobe and LeBron has work to do...and I don't consider anyone to be wrong thinking Kobe's the best player rightnow. I just don't agree with it.
Not Anti-Kobe....just Pro-Bron.
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None of this matters man, the dude will be the MVP
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Kobe is a more complete player than Lebron how is that even an issue?
I love to watch Lebron play but dude has ZERO post game and his outside shot is atrocious for the most part.
I love to watch Lebron play but dude has ZERO post game and his outside shot is atrocious for the most part.
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/\ right....for a player of his caliber...his jump shot is atrocious. I don't think it's OK at all. To me...dude is very much the same streaky shooterhe was when he came into the league. I can't say he's made a significant improvement in his jumper yet. I don't think that's something you canignore and just say..."oh but he can do this"...
Whatever...for an elite swingman...you should be able to be a consistent shooting threat. Sure you're going to have your bad shooting games but Ihaven't EVER seen a team fear Lebron shooting like they do Kobe. I've never seen a guy "give" Kobe long range shots like they give Lebron.
Whatever...for an elite swingman...you should be able to be a consistent shooting threat. Sure you're going to have your bad shooting games but Ihaven't EVER seen a team fear Lebron shooting like they do Kobe. I've never seen a guy "give" Kobe long range shots like they give Lebron.
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What's really crazy is Bron is playing in awful offensive system and still doing what he's doing...you don't want him dribbling for 15 seconds? I'm sure he doesn't wana...blame the coaching. Where as Kobe has a system perfectly suited for him.
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But for whatever reason people on here want to see LeBron fail and the Cavs fail...the Cleveland thing? The hype? Whatever it is...how 90% of people said the Wizards would knock them out, cause 1 player can't beat a team...
Continue to be let down, people...be my guest.
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Now for the record, I don't dislike Kobe and LeBron has work to do...and I don't consider anyone to be wrong thinking Kobe's the best player right now. I just don't agree with it.
Not Anti-Kobe....just Pro-Bron.
I'll say this and I'm done....because you are obviously missing alot. When comparing Bron to Kobe you are essentially comparingathleticism to skill. Bron's ENTIRE game is his athleticism...and it's been this way since HS. Kobe on the other hand uses both his skill(which issuperior to Bron's) AND his athleticism. Because Bron is such an incredible athlete he can get by on that alone....which is truly amazing. What you andother Bron fans don't seem to understand is his skillset is not gonna allow him to continue at this pace once he can't run past or jump over whoeverdefends him. He is not a good shooter, he doesn't have any sembalance of a post game, and he can't shoot FT's. All things that are pure skill. WithKobe you have a guy who is absolutely unguardable. Almost to the extent that MJ was(not really that close IMO, but an argument could be made). You can'tleave him open, he will blow past you, and he has great footwork in the post. It's like this 50 for Bron is an accomplishment...while Kobe doing it isexpected. I really don't believe Bron NEEDS to focus on his jumpshot. He should focus on his post game. He adds that to his game(already being one of, ifnot the best, finishers in the league) and he's going down as the best SF at the very least. On the defensive side there really isn't anargument....regardless of Bron stepping up his D he's still not a better defender. He's not even close honestly. Another STUPID argument I hear fromBron fans...well he's 23. Uh...ok? Age has nothing to do with who's better, if they are better than they just are. Period.
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all athleticism?
What about his court vision and passing?
I don't use the age thing...he's better now IMO.
What about his court vision and passing?
I don't use the age thing...he's better now IMO.
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Bron's ENTIRE game is his athleticism...Originally Posted by JsindaA
...no comment.
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What's really crazy is Bron is playing in awful offensive system and still doing what he's doing...you don't want him dribbling for 15 seconds? I'm sure he doesn't wana...blame the coaching. Where as Kobe has a system perfectly suited for him.
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But for whatever reason people on here want to see LeBron fail and the Cavs fail...the Cleveland thing? The hype? Whatever it is...how 90% of people said the Wizards would knock them out, cause 1 player can't beat a team...
Continue to be let down, people...be my guest.
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Now for the record, I don't dislike Kobe and LeBron has work to do...and I don't consider anyone to be wrong thinking Kobe's the best player right now. I just don't agree with it.
Not Anti-Kobe....just Pro-Bron.
That's not true at all...you've got to give him SOME credit. His court vision doesn't have anything to do with his athleticism.
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I did forget about his court vision/passing. True that doesn't have anything to do with athleticism....he's a much better passer than Kobe butthat's about it.
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Originally Posted by JsindaA
I did forget about his court vision/passing. True that doesn't have anything to do with athleticism....he's a much better passer than Kobe but that's about it.
I don't beleive that...and before you guys kill me listen to this. Kobe has made enough thread the needle spectacular passes that it's obvious he seesthe court better than most. It's just that he doesn't pass as much as LeBron for whatever reasons..(selfish, don't trust teammates, etc) LeBronscourt vision isn't anything special if you draw double/triple teams and are willing to pass to the open man no matter who it is. It's just Kobedoesn't trust Luke Walton cutting to the basket or Lamar Odom open for a game winner.
BUT YES LEBRON IS A GREAT PASSER....just don't act like Kobe can't see the floor.
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So I take it you don't want him in NY
Some of the nonsense spewed in here is atrocious.
LeBron's court vision is better than Kobe
His athleticism is better
and he's stronger and probably faster too
But I love watching both play
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/\ It's all about reputation
No doubt that Kobe is going to fall off this year. I mean, he's a good 5 months older then when we saw him last. Have any idea how old that is?
Don't matter though, numbers wise, Kobe will fall off big time. Hope everyone enjoyed the 81 replay last night, cuz those days are over. He gonna checkin this year at around 22-23 a game since there are more then enough weapons on the team and there should be plenty of blowouts wich means fewer minutes, plusPhil will want to get him as much rest as he can this year. Add it all up, and the gunner days are over.
So in NT translations, he'll be much less the player he was the last couple years as his numbers dwindle.
By the end of this season, Bron should be considered the best overall player, but if Kobe wins it all, good luck trying to tell that to us Laker fans.
Don't matter though, numbers wise, Kobe will fall off big time. Hope everyone enjoyed the 81 replay last night, cuz those days are over. He gonna checkin this year at around 22-23 a game since there are more then enough weapons on the team and there should be plenty of blowouts wich means fewer minutes, plusPhil will want to get him as much rest as he can this year. Add it all up, and the gunner days are over.
So in NT translations, he'll be much less the player he was the last couple years as his numbers dwindle.
By the end of this season, Bron should be considered the best overall player, but if Kobe wins it all, good luck trying to tell that to us Laker fans.
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Kobe is CLEARLY better then Lebron and it's not even a question.
I like them Both but overall I think James is better. Just my opinion. On another note the MVP of the season is about to be....
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I think you are calling it with that D Wade pic. Dude looks healthy and full of desire.
I think you are calling it with that D Wade pic. Dude looks healthy and full of desire.
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