cj863
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True. I can dig it.
Chicago Gangbangers Sit for an Interview. These Dudes are Crazy
True. I can dig it.
futuremd
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If you're not going to hold these street dudes to a higher standard then I don't want to hear any complaints.
Life is harder on them from the moment they're born.
Accept that and encourage them to develop the necessary resolve OR continue to make excuses for them that essentially absolve them of responsibility.
Life isn't fair. Its how you handle that challenge.
We all get the system is broken. We get it. You don't get any more points for yelling what we already know. We have it rough. blah blah blah. The government hates us. COINTELPRO. Tuskegee. Chrispus Attucks.
How are YOU going to have these kids overcome if you keep telling them that the system sucks.
We.
Get.
It.
Hold them to a higher standard, and they'll far exceed where they are now. Even if they fail, they'll be much farther ahead. "Our" last should be "their" best.
Thats the problem honestly. There is too much tolerance of mediocrity.
They won't give you a damn thing and honestly, if i was them, I wouldn't give you all a damn thing either.
You've got to take what you think is yours and hold on to it.
Life is harder on them from the moment they're born.
Accept that and encourage them to develop the necessary resolve OR continue to make excuses for them that essentially absolve them of responsibility.
Life isn't fair. Its how you handle that challenge.
We all get the system is broken. We get it. You don't get any more points for yelling what we already know. We have it rough. blah blah blah. The government hates us. COINTELPRO. Tuskegee. Chrispus Attucks.
How are YOU going to have these kids overcome if you keep telling them that the system sucks.
We.
Get.
It.
Hold them to a higher standard, and they'll far exceed where they are now. Even if they fail, they'll be much farther ahead. "Our" last should be "their" best.
Thats the problem honestly. There is too much tolerance of mediocrity.
They won't give you a damn thing and honestly, if i was them, I wouldn't give you all a damn thing either.
You've got to take what you think is yours and hold on to it.
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I too just want to live in a world where I can have fresh eggs everyday.
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relli45
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This is what it's all about someone there with them periodically showing them a way out, and telling them they can. But even that's not a enough at times.
To be real a lot of you dudes speaking on that video should be mute for #1 them dudes ain' the problem. That was a interview with some naive scrub wannabes. The real killers and dealers ain't doing no s**t like that. They do busy plotting and scheming in the streets to be catering to the ratings of some smug a** news station. #2 ain't non of you dudes knowing nothing about that life. People say why join a gang. I say move into one of these gang ridden neighbor hoods as a young kid with no one to back you up, and see what happens. You either join up and fight the opposition or you don't join up and have both sides on yo a**. When you live and go to school in a gang area that's pretty much your only options.
The only ones that meet the exception are those with repped fam in the gang, and in some cases having famb in a gang could make you a fa sure recruit. The ones that get bussed don't have to go to that school, and rarely go outside when there home so they straight.
Yall dudes talking ill on these lames need to stop. I'm sure a lot of you dudes wouldn't rise above either had you come up in a war zone with no one to shield you from the chaos. Don't be replying about how some of yous came up in a bad areas as well. Because there are bad areas and then there are Fing war zones. I'll be the first one to admit that it's pretty Fing hard to rise above and beyond when you stuck in a war zone from the time of you taking you first steps.
Basically these young dudes fell to the influence, and can't non of us talk ill on them for that. Because we just as guilty with are J's, designer clothes, and our designer cars. Then oversees cats ain't no different they speak ill on us for not appreciating our opportunity, but when they've been here for enough time they end up falling to the American influence as well. I've seen a few take advantage of there international connects to make a illegal dollar. When there whole intention was to live a honest American life till they fell to the influence of that illegal money.
It's way to many busters on this site trying to look down and pass judgment on peoples situations. Kind've makes me just want to come here to get release info and keep it moving
stripe
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Great post.
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but there is always a % of kids/people that get out and do better...
The Rose That Grew From Concrete
The Rose That Grew From Concrete
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GQK44
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I love fresh eggs everyday haha
futuremd
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So basically, its not their fault.
...and the cycle of irresponsibility continues.
Life is incredibly difficult for them. No surprise.
Now are you going to keep apologizing for them or hold them to a higher standard?
Dude is talking about "you can't judge"
The hell I CAN.
futuremd
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Yo I WISH someone would tell me i'm being too hard on these dudes.
If you set low expectations for these dudes then thats as far as they'll go.
The more I think about it, Bill Cosby was just too real for most of the apologists in here.
I don't care how rough you have it. Someone has it more rough.
You already know you started out 10 steps behind so are you going to let that keep you back?
All these dudes talking about the impact of white privilege aren't doing anything to overcome it. That isn't going to change overnight.
You know what WILL change overnight? That damn HW assignment.
We need to start recognizing the power of minimal gains on the impact of larger initiatives.
Like I said in the thread about voting thread, being aware is HALF the problem. Its the easy half.
You think Jewish kids just grow up learning only about the Holocaust? You think they keep feeling sorry for themselves? At some point or another, homework is due, projects need to be completed, goals need to be accomplished.
Dudes have to start achieving from within at SOME point.
They don't have it easy. The government hates them. Their community doesn't want them.
So what?
Pressure is supposed to create diamonds, right?
If you set low expectations for these dudes then thats as far as they'll go.
The more I think about it, Bill Cosby was just too real for most of the apologists in here.
I don't care how rough you have it. Someone has it more rough.
You already know you started out 10 steps behind so are you going to let that keep you back?
All these dudes talking about the impact of white privilege aren't doing anything to overcome it. That isn't going to change overnight.
You know what WILL change overnight? That damn HW assignment.
We need to start recognizing the power of minimal gains on the impact of larger initiatives.
Like I said in the thread about voting thread, being aware is HALF the problem. Its the easy half.
You think Jewish kids just grow up learning only about the Holocaust? You think they keep feeling sorry for themselves? At some point or another, homework is due, projects need to be completed, goals need to be accomplished.
Dudes have to start achieving from within at SOME point.
They don't have it easy. The government hates them. Their community doesn't want them.
So what?
Pressure is supposed to create diamonds, right?
relli45
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Ain't nooobody got time for your "absolute" conversation. Save it brafherSo basically, its not their fault.
...and the cycle of irresponsibility continues.
Life is incredibly difficult for them. No surprise.
Now are you going to keep apologizing for them or hold them to a higher standard?
Dude is talking about "you can't judge"
The hell I CAN.
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How much does hip-hop play a part in this though?
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It's obvious that dudes like Cheif Keef aren't helping this whole chicago crime madness.
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***** SIMPLE
The problem: Kids are killing each other
The solution: Get in these kids faces. And actually give a ****. Stop letting the first male figure these dudes see be a 37 year old drug dealer and that'll knock out half of the problems.
And since when is child murder ok? ***** almost looking normal. Until its not. How about we raise hell like we do when the annual racial crime comes around? Thats what pissed me off this spring.
I dont mind nationwide rallys for Trayvon Martin tragedy. But can you imagine the impact if dudes in the hood held every young black murder victim to the same recognition?
Black folks aint always used to be like this b. Im from Birmingham my fam was part of the civil rights movement so excuse me for laughing at these new ***** excuses
When we ACTUALLY had real enemies in the government.
When we didnt have to make up conspiracy theories and the government actually let it be known they wasnt ******g with us.
When we couldnt vote without getting our heads bust. When we couldnt get proper education
During the real struggle. Not this new **** yall typing on ya laptops about
During the real black struggle We wasnt killing each other. We was together
So miss me with that Education excuse, miss me with that Government excuse, miss me with that poverty excuse. Cause black folks been dealing with that.
This killing one another is new tho. And like I said the solution is simple. Give a ****
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Keef is like 17 though bruh. Chicago been ****** up since like the 50's
tune speaking truth though.
cj863
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Dudes are so ignorant. It is truly bliss I suppose. There's too much going on in here, Relli pretty much summed up part of the argument. With that I am out yo.
futuremd
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He summed something up?Dudes are so ignorant. It is truly bliss I suppose. There's too much going on in here, Relli pretty much summed up part of the argument. With that I am out yo.
You mean saying how its not their fault?
GREAT analysis there.
Entirely novel findings. I'm astounded.
shoelyesses
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that is the main problem and then u get these cats like the judge joe browns, etc the pastors... dudes who be like oh i lived in east la/chi town etc... when in reality they just had kinfolks there who they visited on family reunions and funerals or they grew up like u said being chartered etc...and try to portray like they so intouch/down... but real recognize and these cats str8 tune them out... or u get the occasional fake thug rapper who come flashy and dudes be missing the message cause they too focused on the glorified street life in their music/the bling/cars/women...
i remember growing up and having deion sanders come talk and im sitting there like come on dude miss me with this psa message u talking.. u running a club thats laundering dope money, u took bribs/boost in college... etc and u trying to tell me to stay in school do right and street life is bad etc..
i know ppl may call him fake not the best etc... but a cat like 2pac really resonated with the ppl. i wish more cats like the real rick ross was out there and talking to these kids... kody monster rip... etc...
when u have cats like tavis smiley, oprah and bill cosby etc trying to reach these cats ppl dont listen... they dont relate to them and visa versa and it shows. esp when it appears like its all smoking screens and looks like they doing it too give the illusion they care and know where they coming from.
and lets not even get started on the hurdles/restraints/setbacks society, the government, poor education, lack of jobs etc plays as well.
shoelyesses
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not to start anything but if ppl stood up and went out and helped etc... and was committed to the cause like they did for voting barack into office, or for lining some slick talking, zoot suit wearing 501c3 non profit (pure profit) pimp aka preachers... maybe some change could come about***** SIMPLEThe problem: Kids are killing each other
The solution: Get in these kids faces. And actually give a ****. Stop letting the first male figure these dudes see be a 37 year old drug dealer and that'll knock out half of the problems.
And since when is child murder ok? ***** almost looking normal. Until its not. How about we raise hell like we do when the annual racial crime comes around? Thats what pissed me off this spring.
I dont mind nationwide rallys for Trayvon Martin tragedy. But can you imagine the impact if dudes in the hood held every young black murder victim to the same recognition?
Black folks aint always used to be like this b. Im from Birmingham my fam was part of the civil rights movement so excuse me for laughing at these new ***** excuses
When we ACTUALLY had real enemies in the government.
When we didnt have to make up conspiracy theories and the government actually let it be known they wasnt ******g with us.
When we couldnt vote without getting our heads bust. When we couldnt get proper education
During the real struggle. Not this new **** yall typing on ya laptops about
During the real black struggle We wasnt killing each other. We was together
So miss me with that Education excuse, miss me with that Government excuse, miss me with that poverty excuse. Cause black folks been dealing with that.
This killing one another is new tho. And like I said the solution is simple. Give a ****
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Herb, you should have been out of this discussion after calling dudes Uncle Toms. Now your crying out ignorance, clown. Peace
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Y'all do know that cats are going to.be referring to new kicks as "fresh eggs" here inbthe general section, right?
Famb say boys ain't trying to eat omelets every day though. Lmao..
Famb say boys ain't trying to eat omelets every day though. Lmao..
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PREACH!
Everybody wanna be a gangsta
the real GANGSTA is the one who doesnt go to hail
the real GANGSTA is the one who gets an education and pays his own way
the real GANGSTA is not a burden to society
the real GANGSTA is afraid to tell his peers he has responsibility
the real GANGSTA thrives knowing there were obstacles like having one mother, living in poverty and not having the best education and STILL cares enough to become a MAN and not blame outside entities (government, white man) for not applying yourself ...
The sad this is these men aren't stupid, they know what they are doing is pointless, but the almighty dollar sure knows how to make some people stupid.......
the real GANGSTA is the one who doesnt go to hail
the real GANGSTA is the one who gets an education and pays his own way
the real GANGSTA is not a burden to society
the real GANGSTA is afraid to tell his peers he has responsibility
the real GANGSTA thrives knowing there were obstacles like having one mother, living in poverty and not having the best education and STILL cares enough to become a MAN and not blame outside entities (government, white man) for not applying yourself ...
The sad this is these men aren't stupid, they know what they are doing is pointless, but the almighty dollar sure knows how to make some people stupid.......
