Paradoxes...these are very intriguing..

[black leg]

Originally Posted by needsomejays

i got one for ya.............................

 This has been my sig for about 2 months and

 at that Jane one
  

 

[ricekrispies420]

Originally Posted by Xtapolapacetl

A long read, but check out this mind blowing time paradox:



Time travel is impossible as exemplified by the famous grandfather paradox. Imagine you build a time machine. It is possible for you to travel back in time, meet your grandfather before he produces any children (i.e. your father/mother) and kill him. Thus, you would not have been born and the time machine would not have been built, a paradox.

Perhaps the craziest of the time travel paradoxes was cooked up by Robert Heinlein in his classic short story "All You Zombies."

A baby girl is mysteriously dropped off at an orphanage in Cleveland in 1945. "Jane" grows up lonely and dejected, not knowing who her parents are, until one day in 1963 she is strangely attracted to a drifter. She falls in love with him. But just when things are finally looking up for Jane, a series of disasters strike. First, she becomes pregnant by the drifter, who then disappears. Second, during the complicated delivery, doctors find that Jane has both sets of sex organs, and to save her life, they are forced to surgically convert "her" to a "him." Finally, a mysterious stranger kidnaps her baby from the delivery room.

Reeling from these disasters, rejected by society, scorned by fate, "he" becomes a drunkard and drifter. Not only has Jane lost her parents and her lover, but he has lost his only child as well. Years later, in 1970, he stumbles into a lonely bar, called Pop's Place, and spills out his pathetic story to an elderly bartender. The sympathetic bartender offers the drifter the chance to avenge the stranger who left her pregnant and abandoned, on the condition that he join the "time travelers corps." Both of them enter a time machine, and the bartender drops off the drifter in 1963. The drifter is strangely attracted to a young orphan woman, who subsequently becomes pregnant.

The bartender then goes forward 9 months, kidnaps the baby girl from the hospital, and drops off the baby in an orphanage back in 1945. Then the bartender drops off the thoroughly confused drifter in 1985, to enlist in the time travelers corps. The drifter eventually gets his life together, becomes a respected and elderly member of the time travelers corps, and then disguises himself as a bartender and has his most difficult mission: a date with destiny, meeting a certain drifter at Pop's Place in 1970.

The question is: Who is Jane's mother, father, grandfather, grand mother, son, daughter, granddaughter, and grandson? The girl, the drifter, and the bartender, of course, are all the same person. These paradoxes can made your head spin, especially if you try to untangle Jane's twisted parentage. If we drawJane's family tree, we find that all the branches are curled inward back on themselves, as in a circle. We come to the astonishing conclusion that she is her own mother and father! She is an entire family tree unto herself.

wow bro..

 

[luigitheking]

Originally Posted by Mo Matik

 

[crod6926]

Originally Posted by needsomejays

i got one for ya.............................

I had to read this a couple of times, doesnt make sense

 

[Gordonson]

Originally Posted by needsomejays

i got one for ya.............................

Can someone break this down for me? For some reason my mind just refuses to process it thouroughly.

And

@ Some responses.

 

[hyper cutter]

yeah time travel leads to the potential paradox of things causing themselves. the girl in that story causes herself to go back in time. if i read that correctly she births herself, too.
one solution to that is time branches. time shoots off rather than turns on itself, thus evading the paradox of things causing themselves. next?

 

[maddenfan04]

But the paradox is about time travel though, nullifying everything...

 

[Chamelio Salamander]

Originally Posted by Beast4ya

every time i think of paradoxes i think of MGS

 

[xtapolapacetl]

Originally Posted by MaddenFan04

But the paradox is about time travel though, nullifying everything...

I am pretty sure that time travel is possible in theory. I'm not sure if it was definitely proven to be possible as a rock solid fact, but I've heard several prominent physicists say that it is possible in theory.

 

[omgitswes]

that time travel one reminded me of The Big Bang Theory....funny show
post more paradoxes

 

[ohyeah10]

my head almost exploded when i read that jane time travel one. i almost bit my hand off trying to figure that one out

 

[nocomment6]

I like these.

 

[sjsneakerheadiii]

Keep em coming.

I don't understand some, but the less I know, the more intrigued I am with it.

 

[funkdoctor73]

I really liked the Zeno parodox because it was something i wrote on in my old philsophy class. Say for instance if you drew a line in front of me, and asked me to reach that line, I can't because its impossible to reach the line. PLato took it a further by saying moving from the original line would be impossible.  If you guys want more on Zeno, look up the Arrow Paradox

 

[dimsum9]

lol I really like that Unexpected Hanging Paradox

 

[jlab0ch0]

Originally Posted by l2icel3oi9i6

Originally Posted by Xtapolapacetl

A long read, but check out this mind blowing time paradox:



Time travel is impossible as exemplified by the famous grandfather paradox. Imagine you build a time machine. It is possible for you to travel back in time, meet your grandfather before he produces any children (i.e. your father/mother) and kill him. Thus, you would not have been born and the time machine would not have been built, a paradox.

Perhaps the craziest of the time travel paradoxes was cooked up by Robert Heinlein in his classic short story "All You Zombies."

A baby girl is mysteriously dropped off at an orphanage in Cleveland in 1945. "Jane" grows up lonely and dejected, not knowing who her parents are, until one day in 1963 she is strangely attracted to a drifter. She falls in love with him. But just when things are finally looking up for Jane, a series of disasters strike. First, she becomes pregnant by the drifter, who then disappears. Second, during the complicated delivery, doctors find that Jane has both sets of sex organs, and to save her life, they are forced to surgically convert "her" to a "him." Finally, a mysterious stranger kidnaps her baby from the delivery room.

Reeling from these disasters, rejected by society, scorned by fate, "he" becomes a drunkard and drifter. Not only has Jane lost her parents and her lover, but he has lost his only child as well. Years later, in 1970, he stumbles into a lonely bar, called Pop's Place, and spills out his pathetic story to an elderly bartender. The sympathetic bartender offers the drifter the chance to avenge the stranger who left her pregnant and abandoned, on the condition that he join the "time travelers corps." Both of them enter a time machine, and the bartender drops off the drifter in 1963. The drifter is strangely attracted to a young orphan woman, who subsequently becomes pregnant.

The bartender then goes forward 9 months, kidnaps the baby girl from the hospital, and drops off the baby in an orphanage back in 1945. Then the bartender drops off the thoroughly confused drifter in 1985, to enlist in the time travelers corps. The drifter eventually gets his life together, becomes a respected and elderly member of the time travelers corps, and then disguises himself as a bartender and has his most difficult mission: a date with destiny, meeting a certain drifter at Pop's Place in 1970.

The question is: Who is Jane's mother, father, grandfather, grand mother, son, daughter, granddaughter, and grandson? The girl, the drifter, and the bartender, of course, are all the same person. These paradoxes can made your head spin, especially if you try to untangle Jane's twisted parentage. If we drawJane's family tree, we find that all the branches are curled inward back on themselves, as in a circle. We come to the astonishing conclusion that she is her own mother and father! She is an entire family tree unto herself.

wow bro..

Would make a good movie.
  

 

[frank mucus]

 

[we get money]

"Think of the barber of Seville, who shaves all men, and only those men, who do not shave themselves. Does this barber shave himself or not?"

- Bertrand Russell's paradox of the set of all sets that don't contain themselves as members

 

[bostonthreeparty]

Originally Posted by WE GET MONEY

"Think of the barber of Seville, who shaves all men, and only those men, who do not shave themselves. Does this barber shave himself or not?"

- Bertrand Russell's paradox of the set of all sets that don't contain themselves as members

He doesn't live in the Town so he is able to shave himself of be shaved 

 

[gaut24]

The statement below is false.
The statement above is true.

Wasn't this someones sig a long #%# time ago?

EDIT:

that drifter paradox was crazy