This man unnoticably will win the NL Cy Young

[tbone95860]

ESPN Cy Predictor

[table][tr][td]2009 Cy Young Predictor - National League[/td] [/tr][tr][td]RK[/td] [td]PLAYER[/td] [td]CYP[/td] [td]G[/td] [td]GS[/td] [td]IP[/td] [td]ER[/td] [td]K[/td] [td]SV[/td] [td]SHO[/td] [td]W-L[/td] [td]ERA[/td] [td]VB[/td] [/tr][tr][td]1[/td] [td]Jonathan Broxton, LAD[/td] [td]80.4[/td] [td]24[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]27.0[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]42[/td] [td]13[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]5-0[/td] [td]1.33[/td] [td]3[/td] [/tr][tr][td]2[/td] [td]Johan Santana, NYM[/td] [td]70.5[/td] [td]11[/td] [td]11[/td] [td]72.0[/td] [td]16[/td] [td]89[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]7-3[/td] [td]2.00[/td] [td]3[/td] [/tr][tr][td]3[/td] [td]Matt Cain, SF[/td] [td]68.9[/td] [td]11[/td] [td]11[/td] [td]71.1[/td] [td]18[/td] [td]53[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]7-1[/td] [td]2.27[/td] [td]3[/td] [/tr][tr][td]4[/td] [td]Chad Billingsley, LAD[/td] [td]68.0[/td] [td]12[/td] [td]12[/td] [td]80.0[/td] [td]23[/td] [td]85[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]7-3[/td] [td]2.59[/td] [td]3[/td] [/tr][tr][td]5[/td] [td]Heath Bell, SD[/td] [td]60.9[/td] [td]22[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]21.1[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]26[/td] [td]15[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]2-1[/td] [td]1.27[/td] [td]2[/td] [/tr][tr][td]6[/td] [td]Josh Johnson, Fla[/td] [td]58.2[/td] [td]12[/td] [td]12[/td] [td]82.0[/td] [td]24[/td] [td]72[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]5-1[/td] [td]2.63[/td] [td]3[/td] [/tr][tr][td]7[/td] [td]Francisco Rodriguez, NYM[/td] [td]58.0[/td] [td]24[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]24.2[/td] [td]2[/td] [td]27[/td] [td]14[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]1-0[/td] [td]0.73[/td] [td]3[/td] [/tr][tr][td]8[/td] [td]Zach Duke, Pit[/td] [td]55.3[/td] [td]11[/td] [td]11[/td] [td]79.0[/td] [td]23[/td] [td]42[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]1[/td] [td]6-4[/td] [td]2.62[/td] [td]2[/td] [/tr][tr][td]9[/td] [td]Johnny Cueto, Cin[/td] [td]51.6[/td] [td]11[/td] [td]11[/td] [td]74.0[/td] [td]20[/td] [td]53[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]5-3[/td] [td]2.43[/td] [td]2[/td] [/tr][tr][td]10[/td] [td]Ryan Franklin, StL[/td] [td]50.6[/td] [td]21[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]21.0[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]16[/td] [td]13[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]1-0[/td] [td]1.29[/td] [td]2[/td] [/tr][/table]

 

[sfn 155]

Carpenter has pitched half the amount of innings. Johan had nearly identical numbers with Carpenter's innings. Johan has a lower ERA, lower WHIP, lowerBAA, more K's and less walks than Cain. How is Cain>Santana, unless you mean Ervin?

 

[kiddin like jason]

Zack Duke.

Fun fact: The Pirates have scored a combined four runs in Zach Duke's four losses.

One of the starts happened to be Duke's lone bad performance of the season (6 runs on 12 hits in 6 innings), but the other three, he gave up a combinedseven runs.

He could very well be 9-1 right now.

He's pitched the most innings in the National League (third most in baseball), and has the 7th best ERA (11th in baseball) and the 8th best WHIP (13th inbaseball).

 

[vctry20]

Originally Posted by nyzMaGiciAn

Johan Santana >>> Tim Lincecum + Matt Cain

please stop

 

[mez 0ne]

As of right now: Carpenter > Cain > Santana


Coming from a clown who said Johan would be a bust with the Mets, you really aren't the brightest bulb in the pack.

 

[proshares]

Originally Posted by ERASCISM


As of right now: Carpenter > Cain > Santana

 

[johnnyredstorm]

Originally Posted by Kiddin Like Jason

Zack Duke.

Fun fact: The Pirates have scored a combined four runs in Zach Duke's four losses.

One of the starts happened to be Duke's lone bad performance of the season (6 runs on 12 hits in 6 innings), but the other three, he gave up a combined seven runs.

He could very well be 9-1 right now.

He's pitched the most innings in the National League (third most in baseball), and has the 7th best ERA (11th in baseball) and the 8th best WHIP (13th in baseball).

And he'll be traded next week

 

[lb510]

Originally Posted by Mez 0ne

As of right now: Carpenter > Cain > Santana

Coming from a clown who said Johan would be a bust with the Mets, you really aren't the brightest bulb in the pack.

 

[captain charisma85]

You're all lucky my dude here, has 0 run support & 0bullpen.

Otherwise it'd be over.

Smh. My D-backs are trash this year

 

[franchise 55]

^ He always seems to start well, but falls off towards the end of the season.

 

[eight2one]

Justin Verlander

 

[uter zorker]

What is all this Santana > Cain business now?

Santana now 8-4 Cain soon to be 9-1

 

[jpzx]

Originally Posted by nyzMaGiciAn

Johan Santana >>> Tim Lincecum + Matt Cain

What was that?

Sunday 6/13
[table][tr][td]NY Mets[/td] [td]IP[/td] [td]H[/td] [td]R[/td] [td]ER[/td] [td]BB[/td] [td]SO[/td] [td]HR[/td] [td]ERA[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Santana (L, 8-4)[/td] [td]3.0[/td] [td]9[/td] [td]9[/td] [td]9[/td] [td]2[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]1[/td] [td]3.29[/td] [/tr][/table]

Originally Posted by eight2one

Justin Verlander

Dude had a hell of an outing on Wednesday

 

[p mac one]

> Cain

 

[lazy b]

Originally Posted by Uter Zorker

What is all this Santana > Cain business now?

Santana now 8-4 Cain soon to be 9-1

Stop it. Stanism (it ain't a word but it fits) is terrible on NT. Give Johan some run support (never gets it when he starts) and no one isseeing him. He had a bad game today but who doesn't?

 

[Retroballer]

No run support, this man knows the feeling

 

[uter zorker]

Come on Pat...you're better than that. Billingsley is good but not seeing Cain the way he is pitching right now. 3 CG's already too

ASG Starter!

Lincecum = 9 IP 0 ER 8 K's
Cain = 9 IP 1 ER 9'K's

 

[uter zorker]

BUMP

7 innings 1 ER

 

[coondog16]

Cain has been great this season and he will be in the mix the whole year, as will Lincecum. But I think the most underrated pitcher in the bigs is this guy:


Shut down the Yankess tonight and has been terrific all year long, if he can keep it going he could easily take the CY.

 

[N41D]

Cain and Holland both pitched GEMS tonight... Damn shame neither of them earned decisions, both efforts deserved to be rewarded with the W...

 

[651akathepaul]

When's the last time two pitchers from the same team were 1st and 2nd in Cy Young voting? Randy Johnson and Curt Schilling come to mind, but does anyoneknow if they finished 1,2?

 

[bastitch]

Originally Posted by P MAC ONE

> Cain

Stoneface.

Ray Charles could see that this is false, and he's blind and dead.

 

[aec23]

according to http://www.baseball-reference.com/awards/mvp_cya.shtml

johnson and schilling came 1,2 in 2001 and 2002.

this year cain and lincecum have a great shot to complete that feat, but voting will ultimately decide that.

on a side not, check out johnsons stikeout numbers in his cy young award years (1999-2002). absolutely ridiculous.

 

[651akathepaul]

Originally Posted by aec23

according to http://www.baseball-refer...com/awards/mvp_cya.shtml

johnson and schilling came 1,2 in 2001 and 2002.

this year cain and lincecum have a great shot to complete that feat, but voting will ultimately decide that.

on a side not, check out johnsons stikeout numbers in his cy young award years (1999-2002). absolutely ridiculous.

Interesting...Ya know, I wish I could've seen Koufax play because I'm curious as to how much better this guy was than RJ. Everyone who has compared thetwo and seen both play have said that Koufax > Randy. All I know is, I grew up watching Randy and he's amazingly dominant....Over a long period.

 

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