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what do yall think about this...
HOMELESS SPIKES?
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The benches though? Come on son.. smh
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you have to pay to sit?
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Was never a fan of this.
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Harsh
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you have to pay to sit?
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You have to pay to sit down. Wow. Hopefully you dont fall asleep. How about taking the money that was used to make amd install those apikes to build a shelter and provide food. That would keep homeless people off the streets too
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Like I said in another thread, I understand why this would be done (public image etc), however this is ridiculous.. It does show a lack of humanity, a soft spot. Ive spoken to homeless people before and some told me those "homeless shelters" are terrible.. all types of stuff go on in there. But a man can't even sleep on the street when times are hard? No job? No place to go? What about when more people start to lose their jobs? Not everyone will be able to be in a shelter. I swear man, one day, when times get really rough, both man and woman alike will completely FLIP OUT. Thanks for the thread OP
PS: Paying to sit down!?!? What kinda **** is that?? :x
PS: Paying to sit down!?!? What kinda **** is that?? :x
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I don't like homeless people sleeping by my car. Some homeless person eem took a dump and left her nasty panties about 4 ft away from my car before.
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I get it but, Damn humans, you cruel.
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So if someone trips and falls into one of these spike strips who gets sued? 
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what if a dildo came out the benches instead?
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^^^^ would prolly cost 5$ in some places loooooooooool
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what if a dildo came out the benches instead?
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That's terrible
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what if a dildo came out the benches instead?
what if you are just sitting on a bench and a dildo came out?
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For a business owner I do understand the reasoning behind it. Does it show a lack of compassion for your fellow man, yes it does but at the end of the day it is a business. If they intend to continue garnering business they can't have homeless sleeping in their entrance. Potential customers will not be willing to enter the business.
It is sad, but that is the harsh reality of life. Homeless shelters aren't much better either, so when I hear people say they should just go there shows they know nothing of it. It says a lot if a person would rather sleep on the street than in one of those places. SOmetimes they can't even get into one if they did want to. To all the bleeding hearts in here, how many of you would allow homeless to sleep in front of your home? Yall might give them some change to go buy a meal, but none of you will invite them in for food and give them shelter. If they kept coming around you would eventually do something to get rid of them. More than likely that would be calling the cops. The spikes are extreme, but I can't speak on it because I don't know what methods they used previously to get rid of them. Maybe that was the last resort.
At the end of the day nobody wants to be face to face with that kind of situation, and either threw pure anger and disgust, or maybe just fear you will do what you have to do to get rid of them.
As far as the benches, and paying to sit I'm not taking a chance on that. It is stupid idea, and nobody is risking getting stuck in the angus.
It is sad, but that is the harsh reality of life. Homeless shelters aren't much better either, so when I hear people say they should just go there shows they know nothing of it. It says a lot if a person would rather sleep on the street than in one of those places. SOmetimes they can't even get into one if they did want to. To all the bleeding hearts in here, how many of you would allow homeless to sleep in front of your home? Yall might give them some change to go buy a meal, but none of you will invite them in for food and give them shelter. If they kept coming around you would eventually do something to get rid of them. More than likely that would be calling the cops. The spikes are extreme, but I can't speak on it because I don't know what methods they used previously to get rid of them. Maybe that was the last resort.
At the end of the day nobody wants to be face to face with that kind of situation, and either threw pure anger and disgust, or maybe just fear you will do what you have to do to get rid of them.
As far as the benches, and paying to sit I'm not taking a chance on that. It is stupid idea, and nobody is risking getting stuck in the angus.
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I'd find/buy a 6'x3' section of plywood and lay that **** right on those "spikes". It'd be more comfortable than the concrete too.
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I was thinking that too, just cover it with something. I've never slept in the street but I have been homeless, by definition and it's not fun. Smh.
I know they aren't obligated to do so, but it seems that billionaires could contribute something to assist in this ordeal. Everyone isn't business savvy and possess the skill or connections to become wealthy so it seems like they could contribute a lil to the needy.
I know they aren't obligated to do so, but it seems that billionaires could contribute something to assist in this ordeal. Everyone isn't business savvy and possess the skill or connections to become wealthy so it seems like they could contribute a lil to the needy.
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what if a dildo came out the benches instead?
Lolololol can't take this thread serious anymore
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[/h1][h1]Housing The Homeless Not Only Saves Lives -- It's Actually Cheaper Than Doing Nothing[/h1]
Posted: 03/25/2014 7:44 am EDT Updated: 03/25/2014 7:59 am EDT
It's cheaper to give homeless men and women a permanent place to live than to leave them on the streets.
That’s according to a study of an apartment complex for formerly homeless people in Charlotte, N.C., that found drastic savings on health care costs and incarceration.
Moore Place houses 85 chronically homeless adults, and was the subject of a study by the University of North Carolina Charlotte released on Monday. The study found that, in its first year, Moore Place tenants saved $1.8 million in health care costs, with 447 fewer emergency room visits (a 78 percent reduction) and 372 fewer days in the hospital (a 79 percent reduction).
The tenants also spent 84 percent fewer days in jail, with a 78 percent drop in arrests. The reduction is largely due to a decrease in crimes related to homelessness, such as trespassing, loitering, public urination, begging and public consumption of alcohol, according to Caroline Chambre, director the Urban Ministry Center’s HousingWorks, the main force behind Moore Place.
One tenant, Carl Caldwell, 62, said he used to go to the emergency room five to seven times a week, late at night, so he could spend the night there. “You wouldn’t believe my hospital bills,” Caldwell, who hasn’t had health insurance for years, told The Huffington Post. Caldwell was a teacher for 30 years and became homeless five years ago, when he lost his job and his roommate moved out.
While living on the street, he was diagnosed with prostate cancer. The disease was particularly challenging for Caldwell, who said he spent his days “trying not to get robbed or killed” and trying to find bathrooms and shelter from freezing weather. Since he moved into Moore Place when it opened in March 2012, Caldwell has gained a regular doctor and has undergone radiation. Now his cancer is in remission. Without having to worry about where he will sleep, he can take his medicine regularly and keep it in his mini fridge.
“Moore Place saved my life,” Caldwell said. “When you’re homeless, you are dependent on everybody. Now I am independent and can give back." Caldwell said he regularly helps feed homeless people now and has reconnected with family members he hadn’t spoken to in years.
Chambre said she expects Moore Place tenants’ mental and physical health to continue to improve with consistent access to health care. “The idea of having a primary care doctor was just a fantasy when they were living on the street,” said Chambre. “Now they all have a regular doctor.”
Moore Place is the first homeless facility in Charlotte with a “housing first” model. Housing first is based on the notion that homeless individuals can more effectively deal with other issues –- such as addiction, employment and physical or mental health -– once they have housing. The other permanent housing facility for the homeless in Charlotte does not follow the “housing first” model, requiring sobriety as a prerequisite.
“Charlotte also has several large shelters with very robust front doors,” Chambre said. “But you have to also have a back door -- a way for people to escape homelessness. Shelters are overcrowded, with people living there for years, which defeats the purpose of emergency shelters.”
Moore Place tenants are required to contribute 30 percent of their income -– which for many residents comes from benefits like disability, veterans or Social Security -– toward rent. The rest of their housing costs, which total about $14,000 per tenant annually, are paid by a combination of private and church donations, and local and federal government funding.
The land and construction for the facility cost $6 million, which Chambre predicted will be surpassed by the millions of dollars the facility will save in health care and incarceration costs.
The UNCC study is one of several studies that have found that providing housing first reduces the overall cost of homelessness.
UNCC assistant professor Lori Thomas, who directed the study, said she found the health care and incarceration improvement among the tenants particularly notable, given how vulnerable the tenants are. Most tenants have two or more disabling health-related conditions, and nearly half suffer from post-traumatic stress disorder, the study reported.
“This compassionate perspective is a better way to honor the humanity of a person, but it also works from a fiscally responsible perspective,” Thomas said. “This really is a win-win.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/25/housing-first-homeless-charlotte_n_5022628.html
Posted: 03/25/2014 7:44 am EDT Updated: 03/25/2014 7:59 am EDT
It's cheaper to give homeless men and women a permanent place to live than to leave them on the streets.
That’s according to a study of an apartment complex for formerly homeless people in Charlotte, N.C., that found drastic savings on health care costs and incarceration.
Moore Place houses 85 chronically homeless adults, and was the subject of a study by the University of North Carolina Charlotte released on Monday. The study found that, in its first year, Moore Place tenants saved $1.8 million in health care costs, with 447 fewer emergency room visits (a 78 percent reduction) and 372 fewer days in the hospital (a 79 percent reduction).
The tenants also spent 84 percent fewer days in jail, with a 78 percent drop in arrests. The reduction is largely due to a decrease in crimes related to homelessness, such as trespassing, loitering, public urination, begging and public consumption of alcohol, according to Caroline Chambre, director the Urban Ministry Center’s HousingWorks, the main force behind Moore Place.
One tenant, Carl Caldwell, 62, said he used to go to the emergency room five to seven times a week, late at night, so he could spend the night there. “You wouldn’t believe my hospital bills,” Caldwell, who hasn’t had health insurance for years, told The Huffington Post. Caldwell was a teacher for 30 years and became homeless five years ago, when he lost his job and his roommate moved out.
While living on the street, he was diagnosed with prostate cancer. The disease was particularly challenging for Caldwell, who said he spent his days “trying not to get robbed or killed” and trying to find bathrooms and shelter from freezing weather. Since he moved into Moore Place when it opened in March 2012, Caldwell has gained a regular doctor and has undergone radiation. Now his cancer is in remission. Without having to worry about where he will sleep, he can take his medicine regularly and keep it in his mini fridge.
“Moore Place saved my life,” Caldwell said. “When you’re homeless, you are dependent on everybody. Now I am independent and can give back." Caldwell said he regularly helps feed homeless people now and has reconnected with family members he hadn’t spoken to in years.
Chambre said she expects Moore Place tenants’ mental and physical health to continue to improve with consistent access to health care. “The idea of having a primary care doctor was just a fantasy when they were living on the street,” said Chambre. “Now they all have a regular doctor.”
Moore Place is the first homeless facility in Charlotte with a “housing first” model. Housing first is based on the notion that homeless individuals can more effectively deal with other issues –- such as addiction, employment and physical or mental health -– once they have housing. The other permanent housing facility for the homeless in Charlotte does not follow the “housing first” model, requiring sobriety as a prerequisite.
“Charlotte also has several large shelters with very robust front doors,” Chambre said. “But you have to also have a back door -- a way for people to escape homelessness. Shelters are overcrowded, with people living there for years, which defeats the purpose of emergency shelters.”
Moore Place tenants are required to contribute 30 percent of their income -– which for many residents comes from benefits like disability, veterans or Social Security -– toward rent. The rest of their housing costs, which total about $14,000 per tenant annually, are paid by a combination of private and church donations, and local and federal government funding.
The land and construction for the facility cost $6 million, which Chambre predicted will be surpassed by the millions of dollars the facility will save in health care and incarceration costs.
The UNCC study is one of several studies that have found that providing housing first reduces the overall cost of homelessness.
UNCC assistant professor Lori Thomas, who directed the study, said she found the health care and incarceration improvement among the tenants particularly notable, given how vulnerable the tenants are. Most tenants have two or more disabling health-related conditions, and nearly half suffer from post-traumatic stress disorder, the study reported.
“This compassionate perspective is a better way to honor the humanity of a person, but it also works from a fiscally responsible perspective,” Thomas said. “This really is a win-win.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/25/housing-first-homeless-charlotte_n_5022628.html
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Pepper your Angus papi.
what if you are just sitting on a bench and a dildo came out?
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