Chris Brown aint fooling me!

[hazeleyed honey]

Originally Posted by YDBoUnCe

Nah
Biting and all that ? That's fury

If u are gonna put hands on a female it has to be more of a subdue the individual or one pop in the mouth type thing

When u start fighting a female and use moves dudes can't even do in MMA there's a problem

Son did his time, so it's whatever

Exactly. I do not agree the pop in the mouth thing though.

He kept banging her head against the car window, punching her in the face multiple times, put her in a headlock, bit her ear, CHOCKED her due the point she became unconscious, told her he was going to kill her.

In the report, it is said he laid his hands on her first....But let's say she hit him first after reading those text messages, then started to yell at him and slapped him on the shoulder or the face, so it is understandable he would retaliated the way he did?

 For a slap across the face?

  

 

[pleasurephd]

Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican

Originally Posted by iBlink

My only question is:

Why is what Rihanna did more acceptable? And why hasn't she received any negative press for her actions?

Man you know a female always will get a pass in a domestic dispute. It doesn't make for good TV to vilify both people. Someone has to be the good guy and someone has to be the bad guy. If a man hits a woman, he is viewed as the villain no matter what. People will say that he should be able to control himself and not hit her back. It is just the way the world works man. Sad double standard but that is how the world works. I HATE IT, but what can you do?

Originally Posted by YDBoUnCe

Paul Pierce does it every night how is it so hard to believe CB can't?

Yes, she is very wrong for hitting him, but again if you wanna talk equality it not equal.

If they went toe to toe he would destroy her. Not equal. If she slapped him, then slap her back that's equal, not she slaps him he doesn't even get a mark and so now he has the right to beat that ***

 

[pleasurephd]

Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican

Originally Posted by iBlink

My only question is:

Why is what Rihanna did more acceptable? And why hasn't she received any negative press for her actions?

Man you know a female always will get a pass in a domestic dispute. It doesn't make for good TV to vilify both people. Someone has to be the good guy and someone has to be the bad guy. If a man hits a woman, he is viewed as the villain no matter what. People will say that he should be able to control himself and not hit her back. It is just the way the world works man. Sad double standard but that is how the world works. I HATE IT, but what can you do?

Originally Posted by YDBoUnCe

Paul Pierce does it every night how is it so hard to believe CB can't?

Yes, she is very wrong for hitting him, but again if you wanna talk equality it not equal.

If they went toe to toe he would destroy her. Not equal. If she slapped him, then slap her back that's equal, not she slaps him he doesn't even get a mark and so now he has the right to beat that ***

 

[moneymike88]

Originally Posted by Hazeleyed Honey

Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican

HazelNut, do you have any official documentation that the police report you posted is 100%? Who wrote it?

And who was defending his actions in this thread? Blinks simply said he understood why he hit her, based on the premise that she hit him first.

According to the affidavit she gave to the LAPD.

Here is the official document:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0305093brown1.html

Also, remember that Chris Brown plead guilty, so he basically agrees with this report.

No, she did not hit him first. He laid his hand on her first. My point was that even if she did, he is saying he does not fault him for retaliating even though he took it too far. So, let's say she slapped him on the face, so then what kind of force would it be justifiable or "understandable" for him to retaliate?
  

Well, there you have it.

I didn't bother reading the rest.

 

[moneymike88]

Originally Posted by Hazeleyed Honey

Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican

HazelNut, do you have any official documentation that the police report you posted is 100%? Who wrote it?

And who was defending his actions in this thread? Blinks simply said he understood why he hit her, based on the premise that she hit him first.

According to the affidavit she gave to the LAPD.

Here is the official document:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0305093brown1.html

Also, remember that Chris Brown plead guilty, so he basically agrees with this report.

No, she did not hit him first. He laid his hand on her first. My point was that even if she did, he is saying he does not fault him for retaliating even though he took it too far. So, let's say she slapped him on the face, so then what kind of force would it be justifiable or "understandable" for him to retaliate?
  

Well, there you have it.

I didn't bother reading the rest.

 

[heliumclinton]

Originally Posted by mytmouse76

Originally Posted by alex2182

yall gotta admit tho crying before the song started was suspect

how is it suspect? the man is his idol...half the world cried when that man died...

/thread, dudes really upset that Chris cried to a MJ song

that's suspect

 

[sundoobie]

When he could not force her to exit, he took his right handand shoved her head against the passenger window of the vehicle causing anapproximate one inch raised circular contusion. Robyn F. turned to face Brown and he punched her in the left eye withhis right hand.  He then drove away inthe vehicle and continued to punch her in the face with his right hand whilesteering the vehicle with his left hand. The assault caused Robyn F’s. mouth to fill with blood and blood tosplatter all over her clothing and the interior of the vehicle.

So this CB is trying to resurrect his career by crying and showing his soft side... what a joke!!  

  We all know what type of man you are CB.. so stop LYING!  Him crying like a +$$$% in front of live television audience doesn't change any thing.  Just makes him look like a vagina.

Its matters cause he is a celebrity that influences our children, eg. teaches our daughters its ok to get beat, and our sons its ok to beat as long as you can sing and dance. How in the eff do you guys miss that fact?
^ Precisely.

 

[sundoobie]

When he could not force her to exit, he took his right handand shoved her head against the passenger window of the vehicle causing anapproximate one inch raised circular contusion. Robyn F. turned to face Brown and he punched her in the left eye withhis right hand.  He then drove away inthe vehicle and continued to punch her in the face with his right hand whilesteering the vehicle with his left hand. The assault caused Robyn F’s. mouth to fill with blood and blood tosplatter all over her clothing and the interior of the vehicle.

So this CB is trying to resurrect his career by crying and showing his soft side... what a joke!!  

  We all know what type of man you are CB.. so stop LYING!  Him crying like a +$$$% in front of live television audience doesn't change any thing.  Just makes him look like a vagina.

Its matters cause he is a celebrity that influences our children, eg. teaches our daughters its ok to get beat, and our sons its ok to beat as long as you can sing and dance. How in the eff do you guys miss that fact?
^ Precisely.

 

[heliumclinton]

Originally Posted by mytmouse76

Originally Posted by alex2182

yall gotta admit tho crying before the song started was suspect

how is it suspect? the man is his idol...half the world cried when that man died...

/thread, dudes really upset that Chris cried to a MJ song

that's suspect

 

[pleasurephd]

Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican

Originally Posted by Hazeleyed Honey

According to the affidavit she gave to the LAPD.

Here is the official document:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0305093brown1.html

Also, remember that Chris Brown plead guilty, so he basically agrees with this report.

No, she did not hit him first. He land his hand on her first. My point was that even if she did, he is saying he does not fault him for retaliating even though he took it too far. So, let's say she slapped him on the face, so then what kind of force would it be justifiable or "understandable" for him to retaliate?
  

Oh ok, I was just wondering where you got that from. That is all.

In regards to you question, I think if anyone hits anyone else they are liable to get knocked the hell out. That is just my personal beliefs. I think it is justified for CB to smack the hell out of Rhianna if she hit him first. Yes. Once that boundary is crossed, ethics/morals are all out of the window. She wasn't a "lady" when she hit him so she can't be a "lady" when she is about to get it. Every action will produce an equal or greater reaction. Little girls need to be taught that. And if it was my daughter, and she told me some boy hit her, I will FIRST ask her if she hit him and go from there.

And also, just because someone pleads guilty to a crime doesn't mean they agree with a police report. You can watch Law & Order to know that.

But that is beside the point.

LOL really, really?

So if I slap your arm this makes you have the right to knock me out? OK, well then if you knock me out I'm going to wake up and get my 12 gauge out my trunk. See the failure in your logic?

Why did you say this "Every action will produce an equal or greater reaction." like it was a physics law? LOL its, every action has an EQUAL and opposite reaction.

 

[pleasurephd]

Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican

Originally Posted by Hazeleyed Honey

According to the affidavit she gave to the LAPD.

Here is the official document:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0305093brown1.html

Also, remember that Chris Brown plead guilty, so he basically agrees with this report.

No, she did not hit him first. He land his hand on her first. My point was that even if she did, he is saying he does not fault him for retaliating even though he took it too far. So, let's say she slapped him on the face, so then what kind of force would it be justifiable or "understandable" for him to retaliate?
  

Oh ok, I was just wondering where you got that from. That is all.

In regards to you question, I think if anyone hits anyone else they are liable to get knocked the hell out. That is just my personal beliefs. I think it is justified for CB to smack the hell out of Rhianna if she hit him first. Yes. Once that boundary is crossed, ethics/morals are all out of the window. She wasn't a "lady" when she hit him so she can't be a "lady" when she is about to get it. Every action will produce an equal or greater reaction. Little girls need to be taught that. And if it was my daughter, and she told me some boy hit her, I will FIRST ask her if she hit him and go from there.

And also, just because someone pleads guilty to a crime doesn't mean they agree with a police report. You can watch Law & Order to know that.

But that is beside the point.

LOL really, really?

So if I slap your arm this makes you have the right to knock me out? OK, well then if you knock me out I'm going to wake up and get my 12 gauge out my trunk. See the failure in your logic?

Why did you say this "Every action will produce an equal or greater reaction." like it was a physics law? LOL its, every action has an EQUAL and opposite reaction.

 

[diplomat007]

i dont give a crap what he did to her , the tribute was dope #endofstory . did chris hit you ?

 

[doublejs07]

Total PR spin....to get back in the some-what good graces of the American public, I'm sure dude was "coached" as to what to do when on stage at the end of his performance. Showing a moment of weakness sometimes garners sympathy. Brown's career has been in a tailspin ever since that one night in LA. If he never put his hands on the girl, there would be a totally different public perception of him and people probably wouldn't have questioned his tears. No matter what you may think, those "tears" may have won him back a couple of fans. Again...it's a total PR spin. This happens EVERYWHERE in the entertainment/sports field.

 

[diplomat007]

i dont give a crap what he did to her , the tribute was dope #endofstory . did chris hit you ?

 

[doublejs07]

Total PR spin....to get back in the some-what good graces of the American public, I'm sure dude was "coached" as to what to do when on stage at the end of his performance. Showing a moment of weakness sometimes garners sympathy. Brown's career has been in a tailspin ever since that one night in LA. If he never put his hands on the girl, there would be a totally different public perception of him and people probably wouldn't have questioned his tears. No matter what you may think, those "tears" may have won him back a couple of fans. Again...it's a total PR spin. This happens EVERYWHERE in the entertainment/sports field.

 

[D StaXX]

Originally Posted by Diego


You girls could learn a thing or two from Chris Breezy.
Most of you cant even put on lipstick while driving without hitting something...notice how he never lost control of the car while he did what he did.

 

[D StaXX]

Originally Posted by Diego


You girls could learn a thing or two from Chris Breezy.
Most of you cant even put on lipstick while driving without hitting something...notice how he never lost control of the car while he did what he did.

 

[theemperor45]

Rkelly
Mike tyson
Kobe bryant

All raped women and are moved on with their life.

 

[theemperor45]

Rkelly
Mike tyson
Kobe bryant

All raped women and are moved on with their life.

 

[ScroogeMcBuckz]

Alot of judges on NT. I'm ashamed at how much malice most of you all harbor. Male and female.

 

[ScroogeMcBuckz]

Alot of judges on NT. I'm ashamed at how much malice most of you all harbor. Male and female.

 

[pleasurephd]

Originally Posted by Hazeleyed Honey

Originally Posted by iBlink

I don't get the notion of making him out to be a raving lunatic. Rihanna admitted to hitting the dude. Everyone goes around with the saying "Well that still doesn't give him the right" , and I agree to an extent. He took it a bit far with his retaliation, but I don't fault him for retaliating. Females who hit dudes are the ones at fault. Women can't argue for equality only when it's feasible for them. If you know good and well you don't want a man to put his hands on you, why would you put hands on him? Why instigate? Real talk, Rihanna hasn't gotten any backlash for this. Instead of people opening an eye to her true colors, they still demonize CB. I'm not a fan of the guy, but the fact that he can't catch a break after performing a tribute to his idol says a lot about society. I guarantee that half of you who argue against the man would have indeed hit the broad back that night. Maybe not to that extent, but you wouldn't sit idle while a girl is hitting on you. Keep it real with yourselves.

As fine as Rihanna is (at times), I still think she's a little off in the head. Island women aren't anything nice.

Wow.

Retaliation? He laid his hand on her first. Who told you she hit him? Did you read the police report? Did you see the picture? Were there ANY bruises on him? She had bruises on her face, ring marks, teeth mark on her ear from him biting her, and he was chocking her for 30 seconds to the point she blacked out for a couple of seconds.

What he did was purely despicable, disgusting, and a vicious violent crime. I would say same thing if he did this to a guy. How would you feel if a man did this to your daughter?

I cannot believe some of you have this mentality of justifying men hitting women back. The only reasonable justification for a man to hit a women back is if he felt very threatened or in self-defense. Women should not hit either. But, that is because when it comes to men, if he hits back, due to his strength, he can go into a fury and hurt her very badly. But, that's besides the point. In this case, she did not even hit him first.

I cannot believe some of you are defending Chris Brown's actions.

Here's the police report:

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Chris Brown Police Report:Rihanna Police Report – Here is LAPD ’s full report /affidavit on what really occurred between Chris Brown, 19, and Rihanna during the assault:

“Christopher B and Robyn F have been involved in a dating relations for approx 1 and half year. On Sunday Feb 8 at 25 hours Brown was driving a vehicle with Robyn F as the front passenger on an unknown street in Los Angeles. Robyn F picked brown,s cellular phone and picked up a three-page text message from a woman Brown had had a previous relationship with.

“A verbal argument ensued and Brown pulled a vehicle over in an unknown street. Reach over Robyn F with his right hand and open the car door and attempted to force her out. Brown was unable to force Robyn F out of the vehicle because she was wearing a seat belt. When he could not force her to exit he took his right hand and shoved her head against the passenger window of the vehcile causing an approx 1 inch raised circular contusion.

“Robyn F turned to face Brown and punched her in the left eye with right hand. He then drove away in the vehicle and continued to punch her in the face with his right hand while steering the vehicle with his left hand. The assault caused Robyn F Osmouth to fill with blood and blood to splatter all over her clothing and the interior of the vehicle. Brown looked at Robyn F and stated “I am going to beat the s–t out of you when we get home! You wait and see!?

“Robyn F picked her cellular phone and called her personal assistant Jennifer Rosales. Rosales did not answer the telephone but while her vm greeting was playing Robyn F pretended to talk to her and stated “I am on my way home. Make sure the cops are there when I get there? (this statement was made while greeting was playing and was not captured) after Robyn f faked the call, Brown and looked at her and stated, ‘You just did the stupidest thing ever! Now I really am going to kill you.’

“Brown resumed punching Robyn F and she interlocked her fingers behind her head and brought her elbows forward to protect her face. She then bent over at the waist placing her elbows and face near her lap and in attempt to protect her face and head from the barrage of punches being levied by Brown. Brown continued to punch Robyn F on her left arm and hands, causing her to suffer a contusion on her left triceps that was approx 2 inches in diameter and numerous contusions on her left hand. Robyn f attempted to send another text message to other personal assistant Melissa Ford. Brown snatched the cellular telephone out of her hand and threw it out of the window to an unknown street. Brown continued driving and Robyn F observed his cellular phone in his lap. She picked up the cellular phone with her left hand, and before she could make a call, he placed her in a head lock with right hand and continued to drive the vehicle with his left hand.

“Brown held Robyn F close to him and bit her on her left hear. She was able to feel the vehicle swerving from right to left as Brown sped away. He stopped the vehicle in front of [address] and Robyn F turned off the car removed the key from inignition and sat on it. Brown did not know what she did with the key and began punching her in the face and arms. Brown began applying pressure to Robyn F left and right carotid arteries causing her to be unable to breath. She began to lose consciousness. She reached up with her left hand and began to attempting to gauge his eyes in attempt to flee herself. Brown bit her left ring and middle fingers and released her. While brown continued to punch her she turned around a place her back to against the passenger door. She brought her knees to her chest and placed her feet against Brown,s body and began pushing him away.

“Brown continued to punch her on legs and feet causing several contusions. Robyn F began screaming for help. And Brown exited the vehicle and walked away. A resident in the neighbor heard Robyn F,s plea for help and called 911, causing a police response. An investigation was conducted and Robyn F was issued a domestic violence protective order (EPO). Affiant conducted an interview with Melissa Ford who advised on Feb. 8 2009 at 2500 hours she received a phone call from Robyn F from an unknown telephone number later identified as the telephone number of Officer Chavez. Robyn F had advised Ford that she had been assaulted by Brown. At approx at 1 am Brown called Ford as nothing happened. Ford advised Brown that she had already talked to Robyn F and was aware of what happened. Ford had advised brown that the neighbors had called police and that they were with Robyn F. Brown had asked Ford if Robyn F had provided police with his name. And Ford advised him that she had. Brown hung up the telephone and did not call back.

“On Feb. 8, Brown turned himself in and was given a copy of the EPO and advised to not contact Robyn.

“On Feb. 17 Ford advised the affiant that she had received text messages from … a number that Ford recognized as belonging to Brown. In the text message Brown apologized for what he had done to Robyn F. and advised Ford he was going to get help.

 

[pleasurephd]

Originally Posted by Hazeleyed Honey

Originally Posted by iBlink

I don't get the notion of making him out to be a raving lunatic. Rihanna admitted to hitting the dude. Everyone goes around with the saying "Well that still doesn't give him the right" , and I agree to an extent. He took it a bit far with his retaliation, but I don't fault him for retaliating. Females who hit dudes are the ones at fault. Women can't argue for equality only when it's feasible for them. If you know good and well you don't want a man to put his hands on you, why would you put hands on him? Why instigate? Real talk, Rihanna hasn't gotten any backlash for this. Instead of people opening an eye to her true colors, they still demonize CB. I'm not a fan of the guy, but the fact that he can't catch a break after performing a tribute to his idol says a lot about society. I guarantee that half of you who argue against the man would have indeed hit the broad back that night. Maybe not to that extent, but you wouldn't sit idle while a girl is hitting on you. Keep it real with yourselves.

As fine as Rihanna is (at times), I still think she's a little off in the head. Island women aren't anything nice.

Wow.

Retaliation? He laid his hand on her first. Who told you she hit him? Did you read the police report? Did you see the picture? Were there ANY bruises on him? She had bruises on her face, ring marks, teeth mark on her ear from him biting her, and he was chocking her for 30 seconds to the point she blacked out for a couple of seconds.

What he did was purely despicable, disgusting, and a vicious violent crime. I would say same thing if he did this to a guy. How would you feel if a man did this to your daughter?

I cannot believe some of you have this mentality of justifying men hitting women back. The only reasonable justification for a man to hit a women back is if he felt very threatened or in self-defense. Women should not hit either. But, that is because when it comes to men, if he hits back, due to his strength, he can go into a fury and hurt her very badly. But, that's besides the point. In this case, she did not even hit him first.

I cannot believe some of you are defending Chris Brown's actions.

Here's the police report:

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Spoiler

Chris Brown Police Report:Rihanna Police Report – Here is LAPD ’s full report /affidavit on what really occurred between Chris Brown, 19, and Rihanna during the assault:

“Christopher B and Robyn F have been involved in a dating relations for approx 1 and half year. On Sunday Feb 8 at 25 hours Brown was driving a vehicle with Robyn F as the front passenger on an unknown street in Los Angeles. Robyn F picked brown,s cellular phone and picked up a three-page text message from a woman Brown had had a previous relationship with.

“A verbal argument ensued and Brown pulled a vehicle over in an unknown street. Reach over Robyn F with his right hand and open the car door and attempted to force her out. Brown was unable to force Robyn F out of the vehicle because she was wearing a seat belt. When he could not force her to exit he took his right hand and shoved her head against the passenger window of the vehcile causing an approx 1 inch raised circular contusion.

“Robyn F turned to face Brown and punched her in the left eye with right hand. He then drove away in the vehicle and continued to punch her in the face with his right hand while steering the vehicle with his left hand. The assault caused Robyn F Osmouth to fill with blood and blood to splatter all over her clothing and the interior of the vehicle. Brown looked at Robyn F and stated “I am going to beat the s–t out of you when we get home! You wait and see!?

“Robyn F picked her cellular phone and called her personal assistant Jennifer Rosales. Rosales did not answer the telephone but while her vm greeting was playing Robyn F pretended to talk to her and stated “I am on my way home. Make sure the cops are there when I get there? (this statement was made while greeting was playing and was not captured) after Robyn f faked the call, Brown and looked at her and stated, ‘You just did the stupidest thing ever! Now I really am going to kill you.’

“Brown resumed punching Robyn F and she interlocked her fingers behind her head and brought her elbows forward to protect her face. She then bent over at the waist placing her elbows and face near her lap and in attempt to protect her face and head from the barrage of punches being levied by Brown. Brown continued to punch Robyn F on her left arm and hands, causing her to suffer a contusion on her left triceps that was approx 2 inches in diameter and numerous contusions on her left hand. Robyn f attempted to send another text message to other personal assistant Melissa Ford. Brown snatched the cellular telephone out of her hand and threw it out of the window to an unknown street. Brown continued driving and Robyn F observed his cellular phone in his lap. She picked up the cellular phone with her left hand, and before she could make a call, he placed her in a head lock with right hand and continued to drive the vehicle with his left hand.

“Brown held Robyn F close to him and bit her on her left hear. She was able to feel the vehicle swerving from right to left as Brown sped away. He stopped the vehicle in front of [address] and Robyn F turned off the car removed the key from inignition and sat on it. Brown did not know what she did with the key and began punching her in the face and arms. Brown began applying pressure to Robyn F left and right carotid arteries causing her to be unable to breath. She began to lose consciousness. She reached up with her left hand and began to attempting to gauge his eyes in attempt to flee herself. Brown bit her left ring and middle fingers and released her. While brown continued to punch her she turned around a place her back to against the passenger door. She brought her knees to her chest and placed her feet against Brown,s body and began pushing him away.

“Brown continued to punch her on legs and feet causing several contusions. Robyn F began screaming for help. And Brown exited the vehicle and walked away. A resident in the neighbor heard Robyn F,s plea for help and called 911, causing a police response. An investigation was conducted and Robyn F was issued a domestic violence protective order (EPO). Affiant conducted an interview with Melissa Ford who advised on Feb. 8 2009 at 2500 hours she received a phone call from Robyn F from an unknown telephone number later identified as the telephone number of Officer Chavez. Robyn F had advised Ford that she had been assaulted by Brown. At approx at 1 am Brown called Ford as nothing happened. Ford advised Brown that she had already talked to Robyn F and was aware of what happened. Ford had advised brown that the neighbors had called police and that they were with Robyn F. Brown had asked Ford if Robyn F had provided police with his name. And Ford advised him that she had. Brown hung up the telephone and did not call back.

“On Feb. 8, Brown turned himself in and was given a copy of the EPO and advised to not contact Robyn.

“On Feb. 17 Ford advised the affiant that she had received text messages from … a number that Ford recognized as belonging to Brown. In the text message Brown apologized for what he had done to Robyn F. and advised Ford he was going to get help.

 

[sooperhooper]

Originally Posted by TheEmperor45

Rkelly
Mike tyson
Kobe bryant

All raped women and are moved on with their life.

What are you talking about. Kobe did not rape anyone.

 

[sooperhooper]

Originally Posted by TheEmperor45

Rkelly
Mike tyson
Kobe bryant

All raped women and are moved on with their life.

What are you talking about. Kobe did not rape anyone.