To all Obama supporters........(long read)

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Mr. Obama,

Given the uproar about the simple question asked you by Joe the plumber, and the persecution that has been heaped on him because he dared to question you, Ifind myself motivated to say a few things to you myself. While Joe aspires to start a business someday, I already have started not one, but 4 businesses. Butfirst, let me introduce myself. You can call me "Cory the well driller". I am a 54-year-old high school graduate. I didn't go to college likeyou, I was too ready to go "conquer the world" when I finished high school. 25 years ago at age 29, I started my own water well drilling business ata time when the economy here in East Texas was in a tailspin from the crash of the early 80's oil boom. I didn't get any help from the government, nordid I look for any. I borrowed what I could from my sister, my uncle, and even the pawnshop and managed to scrape together a homemade drill rig and a few toolsto do my first job. My businesses did not start not a result of privilege. It is the result of my personal drive, personal ambition, self-discipline, selfreliance, and a determination to treat my customers fairly. From the very start my business provided one other (than myself) East Texan a full time job. Icouldn't afford a backhoe the first few years (something every well drilling business had), so I and my helper had to dig the mud pits that are necessaryfor each and every job with hand shovels. I had to use my 10-year-old, ½-ton pickup truck for my water tank truck (normally a job for at least a 2 ton truck).

A year and a half after I started the business, I scraped together a 20% down payment to get a modest bank loan and bought a (28 year) old, worn out, slightlybigger drilling rig to allow me to drill the deeper water wells in my area. I spent the next few years drilling wells with the rig while simultaneouslyrebuilding it between jobs. Through these years I never knew from one month to the next if I would have any work or be able to pay the bills. I got behind onmy income taxes one year, and spent the next two years paying that back (with penalty and interest) while keeping up with ongoing taxes. I got behind on mywater well supply bill 2 different years (way behind the second time… $80,000.00), and spent over a year paying it back (each time) while continuing to pay forongoing supplies C.O.D. Of course, the personal stress endured through these experiences and years is hard to measure. I do have a stent in my heart now tomemorialize it all.

I spent the next 10 years developing the reputation for being the most competent and most honest water well driller in East Texas. 2 years along the way, Ihired another full time employee for the drilling business so that we could provide full time water well pump service as well as the well drilling. Also, 3years along the path, I bought a water well screen service machine from a friend, starting business # 2. 5 years later I made a business loan for $100,000.00to build a new, higher production, computer controlled screen service machine. I had designed the machine myself, and it didn't work out for 3 years so Ihad to make the loan payments without the benefit of any added income from the new machine. No government program was there to help me with the payments, or tohelp me sleep at night, as I lay awake wondering how I would solve my machine problems or pay my bills. Finally, after 3 years, I got the screen machineworking properly, and that provided another full time job for an East Texan in the screen service business.

2 years after that, I made another business loan, this time for $250,000.00, to buy another used drilling rig and all the support equipment needed to runanother, larger, drill rig. This provided another 2 full time jobs for East Texans. Again, I spent a couple of years not knowing if I had made a smart move, ora move that would bankrupt me. For the third time in 13 years, I had placed everything I owned on the line, risking everything, in order to build a business.

A couple of years into this, I came up with a bright idea for a new kind of mud pump, a fundamentally necessary pump used on water well drill rigs. I spent myentire life savings to date (just $30,000.00), building a prototype of the pump and took it to the national water well convention to show it off. Customersimmediately started coming out of the woodworks to buy the pumps, but there was a problem. I had depleted my assets making the prototype, and nobody would makeme a business loan to start production of the new pumps. With several deposits for pump orders in hand, and nowhere to go, I finally started applying for asmany credit card as I could find and took cash withdrawals on these cards to the tune of over $150,000.00 (including modest loans from my dear sister andbrother), to get this 3rd business going.

Yes, once again, I had everything hanging over the line in an effort to start another business. I had never manufactured anything, and I had to design andbring into production a complex hydraulic machine from an untested prototype to a reliable production model (in six months). How many nights I lay awakewondering if I had just made the paramount mistake of my life I cannot tell you, but there were plenty. I managed to get the pumps into production, whichimmediately created another 2 full time jobs in East Texas. Some of the models in the first year suffered from quality issues due to the poor workmanship ofone of my key suppliers, so an employee and I (another East Texan employed) had to drive across the country to repair customers' pumps, practically fromcoast to coast. I stood behind the product, and made payments to all the credit cards that had financed me (and my brother and sister). I spent the next 5years improving and refining the product, building a reputation for the pump and the company, working to get the pump into drill rig manufacturers' productlines, and paying back credit cards. During all this time I continued to manage a growing water well business that was now operating 3 drill rig crews, and 2well service crews. Also, the screen service business continued to grow. No government programs were there to help me, Mr. Obama, but that's ok, Ididn't expect any, nor did I want any. I was too busy fighting to make success happen to sit around waiting for the government to help me.

Now, we have been manufacturing the mud pumps for 7 years, my combined businesses employ 32 full time employees, and distribute $5,000,000.00 annually throughthe local economy. Now, just 4 months ago I borrowed $1,254,000.00, purchasing computer controlled machining equipment to start my 4th business, a productionmachine shop. The machine shop will serve the mud pump company so that we can better manufacture our pumps that are being shipped worldwide. Of course, themachine shop will also do work for outside companies as well. This has already produced 2 more full time jobs, and 2 more should develop out of it in the nextfew months. This should work out, but if it doesn't it will be because you, and the other professional politicians like yourself, will have destroyed ourcountry's' (and the world) economy with your meddling with mortgage loan programs through your liberal manipulation and intimidation of loaninginstitutions to make sure that unqualified borrowers could get mortgages. You see, at the very time when I couldn't get a business loan to get my mud pumpsinto production, you were working with Acorn and the Community Reinvestment Act programs to make sure that unqualified borrowers could buy homes with no downpayment, and even no credit or worse yet, bad credit. Even the infamous, liberal, Ninja loans (No Income, No Job or Assets). While these unqualified borrowerswere enjoying unrealistically low interest rates, I was paying 22% to 24% interest on the credit cards that I had used to provide me the funds for the mud pumpbusiness that has created jobs for more East Texans. It's funny, because after 25 years of turning almost every dime of extra money back into my businessesto grow them, it has been only in the last two years that I have finally made enough money to be able to put a little away for retirement, and now the value ofthat has dropped 40% because of the policies you and your ilk have perpetrated on our country.

You see, Mr. Obama, I'm the guy you intend to raise taxes on. I'm the guy who has spent 25 years toiling and sweating, fretting and fighting, stressingand risking, to build a business and get ahead. I'm the guy who has been on the very edge of bankruptcy more than a dozen times over the last 25 years, andall the while creating more and more jobs for East Texans who didn't want to take a risk, and wouldn't demand from themselves what I have demanded frommyself. I'm the guy you characterize as "the Americans who can afford it the most" that you believe should be taxed more to provide incomeredistribution "to spread the wealth" to those who have never toiled, sweated, fretted, fought, stressed, or risked anything. You want tocharacterize me as someone who has enjoyed a life of privilege and who needs to pay a higher percentage of my income than those who have bought into yourentitlement culture. I resent you, Mr. Obama, as I resent all who want to use class warfare as a tool to advance their political career. What's worse, eachyear more Americans buy into your liberal entitlement culture, and turn to the government for their hope of a better life instead of themselves. Liberals aresucceeding through more than 40 years of collaborative effort between the predominant liberal media, and liberal indoctrination programs in the public schoolsystems across our land.

What is so terribly sad about this is this. America was made great by people who embraced the one-time American culture of self-reliance, self-motivation,self-determination, self-discipline, personal betterment, and hard work, risk taking. A culture built around the concept that success was in reach on everyable bodied American who would strive for it. Each year that less Americans embrace that culture, we all descend together. We descend down the socialist paththat has brought country after country ultimately to bitter and unremarkable states. If you and your liberal comrades in the media and school systems wouldspend half as much effort cultivating a culture of can-do across America as you do cultivating your entitlement culture, we could see Americans at largeembracing the conviction that they can elevate themselves through personal betterment, personal achievement, and self reliance. You see, when people embracesuch ideals, they act on them. When people act on such ideals, they succeed. All of America could find herself elevating instead of deteriorating. But thatwould eliminate the need for liberal politicians, wouldn't it, Mr. Obama? The country would not need you if the country was convinced that problem solvingwas best left with individuals instead of the government. You and all your liberal comrades have got a vested interested in creating a dependent class in ourcountry. It is the very business of liberals to create an ever-expanding dependence on government. What's remarkable is that you, who have never produced ajob in your life, are going to tax me to take more of my money and give it to people who wouldn't need my money if they would get off their entitlementmentality #!#%! and apply themselves at work, demand more from themselves, and quit looking to liberal politicians to raise their station in life.

You see, I know because I've had them work for me before. Hundreds of them over these 25 years. People who simply will not show up to work on time. Peoplewho just will not work 5 days in a week, much less, 6 days. People always looking for a way to put less effort out. People who actually tell me that they woulddo more if I just would first pay them more. People who take off work to sit in government offices to apply to get free government handouts (gee, I wonder howthings would have turned out for them if they had spent that time earning money and pleasing their employer?). You see, all of this comes from your entitlementmentality culture.

Oh, I know you will say I am uncompassionate. Sorry, Mr. Obama, wrong again. You see, I've seen what the average percentage of your income has been givento charities over the years of 2000 to 2004 (ignoring the years you started running for office - can you pronounce "politically motivated"); youaveraged of less than 1% annually. And your running mate, Joe Biden, averaged less than ¼% of his annual income in charitable contributions over the last 10years. Like so many liberals, the two of you want to give to the needy, just as long as it is someone else's money you are giving to them. I won't saywhat I have given to charities over the last 25 years, but the percentage is several times more than you or Joe Biden (don't you just hate goggle?). Tellme again how you feel my pain.

In short, Mr. Obama, your political philosophies represent everything that is wrong with our country. You represent the culture of government dependenceinstead of self-reliance; Entitlement mentality instead of personal achievement; Penalization of the successful to reward the unmotivated; Politicalcorrectness instead of open mindedness and open debate. If you are successful, you may preside over the final transformation of America from being the greatestand most self-reliant culture on earth, to just another country of whiners and wimps, who sit around looking to the government to solve their problems. Likeall of western Europe. All countries on the decline. All countries that, because of liberal socialistic mentalities, have a little less to offer mankind everyyear.

God help us…

Cory Miller

just a ordinary, extraordinary American, the way a lot of Americans used to be.

P.S. Yes, Mr. Obama, I am a real American… www.cmillerdrilling.com



http://www.eclecticwill.com/2008/10/open-letter-to-sen-obama-from-corey-miller-the-well-driller/http://www.eclecticwill.co
 
Cliffnotes?
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I read like 2 paragraphs.
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I got the gist of it though.


I'm glad that in the last few weeks Obama's ideology is finally being exposed. People can vote on the truth now instead of the obfuscations (regardingObama's ideology) coming from Obama's (very well run) campaign.
 
I didn't read. Obama '08. I know OP, ignorant of me. I don't believe in posting for free. I think everybody should actually contribute to a thread.But my mind is seriously made up. There's very little that one could say to turn me away from goin' blue. Granted, this could be that very little, butI highly doubt it. Not only that, Lakers tip-off is goin' down right now.
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Good for Cory the well driller. He is an exception, not the standard.

I'd love to see how many people with only high school diplomas have their own business let alone get loans to buy million dollar equipment.
 
damn i hate politics now... and sometimes the globe that floats in the middle of nowhere, but im thankful
 
Originally Posted by haiti5

^what is his idealogy then
All that's been coming out the last few weeks, which is markedly different from the previous 2 years, is his ideology. I think it'sapparent now why Obama was always vague with what he meant by "change".
For 2 years change = "hope" and that was that.
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If one agrees with it than by all means they should vote for Obama.
The only change I foresee is increased government corruption (yes, even more than today; I know kind of hard to believe) and citizens increased dependence ongovernment. Increased dependence on government only means getting @+++@* over harder in the end.

I think there's a little surprise for us in mid-to-late February. Should be interesting.
 
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at duke asking for cliffnotes
that letter is talking specifically about people like you
 
In short, Mr. Obama, your political philosophies represent everything that is wrong with our country. You represent the culture of government dependence instead of self-reliance; Entitlement mentality instead of personal achievement; Penalization of the successful to reward the unmotivated; Political correctness instead of open mindedness and open debate. If you are successful, you may preside over the final transformation of America from being the greatest and most self-reliant culture on earth, to just another country of whiners and wimps, who sit around looking to the government to solve their problems. Like all of western Europe. All countries on the decline. All countries that, because of liberal socialistic mentalities, have a little less to offer mankind every year.
See this is the issue tho....this man said he had to borrow money from relatives to get off the ground....%+#%, not everyonecan do that....not everyone is able to borrow large sums of money....see he had the privilege of having family with some cash...everyone has a dream, some justdon't have the means to fulfill this dream....and I think this dude should have taken some business courses, he prolly wouldn't have had to"risk" all his money each time he was expanding....I'm just sayin tho - I don't get how this ideology is bad....the man wants everyone to beable to prosper...."live the dream"....what is wrong with that?

As a Canadian, living in a stable country, taxing the people is a necessary option...in order to build this country backup, people need to make sacrifices to better the country....people would rather fight for their lives (in Iraq) to better their country but won't give up afew extra dollars? where is the logic in that?
 
I don't understand why I go into these thread. There's endless ignorance from both Obama and McCain supporters..and it's getting tiring.
 
Originally Posted by TD The God

In short, Mr. Obama, your political philosophies represent everything that is wrong with our country. You represent the culture of government dependence instead of self-reliance; Entitlement mentality instead of personal achievement; Penalization of the successful to reward the unmotivated; Political correctness instead of open mindedness and open debate. If you are successful, you may preside over the final transformation of America from being the greatest and most self-reliant culture on earth, to just another country of whiners and wimps, who sit around looking to the government to solve their problems. Like all of western Europe. All countries on the decline. All countries that, because of liberal socialistic mentalities, have a little less to offer mankind every year.
See this is the issue tho....this man said he had to borrow money from relatives to get off the ground....%+#%, not everyone can do that....not everyone is able to borrow large sums of money....see he had the privilege of having family with some cash...everyone has a dream, some just don't have the means to fulfill this dream....and I think this dude should have taken some business courses, he prolly wouldn't have had to "risk" all his money each time he was expanding....I'm just sayin tho - I don't get how this ideology is bad....the man wants everyone to be able to prosper...."live the dream"....what is wrong with that?

As a Canadian, living in a stable country, taxing the people is a necessary option...in order to build this country back up, people need to make sacrifices to better the country....people would rather fight for their lives (in Iraq) to better their country but won't give up a few extra dollars? where is the logic in that?


Live within your means. If you can't afford it, you can't afford it. I don't see how giving people a couple of bucks is going to bethe equivelent of a loan which is what that guy basically had.

I can't trust government, which in the next regime will want more money to use... Government is not the solution to the problems in your life people.
 
I read the entire thing. That guy has gone through some stuff in his career...all by his choice tho. What he needs to understand is that for every guy likehim...there are 20 companies and corporations who "can afford it" as he put. As much s wed like...the laws that will hopefully be put in place willnot cater to every one of the 350 million + Americans living in this country. Plus...him seeing a 3% increase in his tax rate is not going to bankrupt him. Ido commend his service though. I hope to one day own my own engineering firm.
 
I have a question for the OP.



How much do you make? How will each candidates tax plans effect you?



We can all sit around and analyze other peoples specific situations. Obama's plan is not for everybody... Just as McCains plan is not for everybody. Thedifference is McCain believes in trickle down economics (to a certain extent) while Obama supports strengthening the working class individual.



Just because you can find ONE individual and post a long narrative about his SPECIFIC situation that is critical of the opposing candidate does nothing in thegrand scheme of things.

The argument of voting for a candidate based upon a a specific set of circumstances while ignoring how the vote will impact you is crazy to me.

But back to my original question to the OP.... How do the Obama/McCain tax plans impactyou?

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another country of whiners and wimps, who sit around looking to the government to solve their problems. Like all of western Europe. All countries on the decline. All countries that, because of liberal socialistic mentalities, have a little less to offer mankind every year.
Yet look how much better they are doing. Since when is socialsim a bad thing?
 
I must ask the OP if he suffered while Clinton was President? Obama has the same type tax plan as Clinton did...You see, if Obama wins and does good for theeconomy as Clinton did, people still wont give him credit. They will attribute it to something else, and still reap the benefits, and still try to get imkicked out after his first term...No matter HOW GOOD does mind you. Like Hillary said, it took a Democrat in Clinton to clean up the first Bush's Mess. Itsgonna take another democrat to clean up this Bush's mess.
 
^ Guy, did you even read ONE thing that was posted?
and wawaweewa your not the first person I've heard say that..my instructor for my job who is ex-special forces "something" will occur within the1st 6 months
 
Originally Posted by CParkFresh

I have a question for the OP.



How much do you make? How will each candidates tax plans effect you?



We can all sit around and analyze other peoples specific situations. Obama's plan is not for everybody... Just as McCains plan is not for everybody. The difference is McCain believes in trickle down economics (to a certain extent) while Obama supports strengthening the working class individual.



Just because you can find ONE individual and post a long narrative about his SPECIFIC situation that is critical of the opposing candidate does nothing in the grand scheme of things.

The argument of voting for a candidate based upon a a specific set of circumstances while ignoring how the vote will impact you is crazy to me.

But back to my original question to the OP.... How do the Obama/McCain tax plans impact you?
How can you sit and say that you are entitled to someone else's money? Can you paypal me $10? I'll even vote for Obama...

See you won't. And even if you did, I'm not voting for Obama.
 
Mr. All-American Cory the Driller is most likely an exception for this tax cut. I do appreciate his hard worth ethic and perseverance.

Through these years I never knew from one month to the next if I would have any work or be able to pay the bills.


But as he stated himself, he was unsure of his business since the moment he started it. If your profit margins are slim enough that these tax raises areputting you out of business, chances are you aren't making enough begin with. Sounds like this self-proclaimed "ordinary" but"extraordinary" high school grad. is wishing he had something to fall back on now.

This is obviously a very emotional charged piece. It is safe to say that many of the conclusions he drew at the end were reaching. But to say he neverneeded/wanted the government's help and now to say they are his demise is pretty ironic.

It's funny to see where people point the finger in failure. I think maybe he needs to look in the mirror and point at himself for a little bit too.
 
How can you sit and say that you are entitled to someone else's money?
no one is saying that. Obama just feels that the working class needs to be bolstered, and increasing taxes on those who can afford to pay morewill help. Helping the working class will get us out of this struggling economy. I didnt realize that the essay wasnt the OPs words. So we cant really attackhim. But yes we can since he posted it, maybe her agrees.....
 
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